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<ericP> interesting
zakimm, ??P0 is michel
michel hasn't been able to discuss the lodd datasets with anja
will have to use current datasets for the paper
michel: extensive discussion on hcls mailing list about how to represent measurements
ericP: comes down to minimal representation that specifies units in the predicate or more explicit representation where one can construct the necessary information
joanne: what is the use case
ericP: if we standardize a shoe
ontology - the units for shoe size are "cm", then should the
relation indicate that this is the unit, or do you let people
potentially specify any unit
... and use OWL reasoner to check consistency
... information might not be appropriate constrained to the
expected unit
... heterogeneous representations e.g. dublic core author can
accept uri, string, etc
... causes problems for data consistency and querying
... might be too complicated
joanne: who are the users? would they be confused? would user interfaces possibly constrain it
ericP: post-uptake should not be
a problem
... once there is a standard, and it's well documented
...
... cost is on pre-uptake - can learn by example
<matthias_samwald> (i need to leave the call now - bye!)
michel: communities are creating ontologies of types, so leave the predicates more general, and refer to the types
ericP: question of pre-reasoning
and post-reasoning
... can people specify and find the data without reasoning,
because post-reasoning everything equals out
kerstin: next the contextual data associated with the measurement values
ericP: look by example - i can stick more data in the semweb graph
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