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<joakim> Scriber Volunteeer?
<joakim> Felix?
<scribe> scribe: Felix
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-mediaann-minutes.html
minutes from last minutes approved
next meeting: f2f meeting , no teleconf next week
meeting in Vienna Monday, 26th
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
Joakim describing "reminder" action items
Felix: let's keep my reminder AI
open
... ACTION-124
Joakim: David , ACTION-163, David has not much time to spend for the group, probably we need to remove them or move to somebody else
Felix: propose to remove the AI, I think we need general review as much as possible
Chris: propose to remove this
Joakim: ok, remove the AI
close ACTION-163
<trackbot> ACTION-163 Update some of the descriptions to make them more precise and highlight the difference with DC closed
joakim: same for ACTION-171
close ACTION-171
<trackbot> ACTION-171 improve description of properties (together with veronique) closed
Joakim going through other AIs
Wonsuk: ACTION-214 is still open,
review from MXM. After we go through LC, we need to recast the
review
... from the MXM group.
Joakim: ACTION-218 done
close ACTION-218
<trackbot> ACTION-218 Contact the webapps, geolocation WGs to review the API document closed
Felix: hopefully done this week (ACTION-219)
Wonsuk: talked related to ACTION-224 with Veronique about improving the ontology document, thought that she would attend the call
Joakim: ACTION-226 done
close ACTION-226
<trackbot> ACTION-226 Review mapping table and identify which formats are up to date closed
Chris: ACTION-227 ongoing, will send a mail probably today
Joakim: ACTION-228 update?
Felix: do we still need this, since we are switching to HTML?
joakim: ACTION-229: Daniel has sent a reminder, done
close ACTION-229
<trackbot> ACTION-229 Inform reviewers about the deadline closed
<pchampin> I don't see why we wouln't need it
<pchampin> if I got it correctly,
<pchampin> the point is to automate the generation of test cases
<pchampin> from the text of the specification
ah, ok, sorry, so we need it
Joakim: ACTION-230 is done
close ACTION-230
<trackbot> ACTION-230 Convert the API document to html+script format closed
Great work, Wonsuk!
Wonsuk explaining aspects of the conversion and the converted document
discussion on information needed for interface descriptions
Wonsuk: structure of the new and old document is different, but the content is the same
Felix: think so too
Joakim: Did not see a reply to Silvia's review, anybody working on this?
Wonsuk: have read her mail
Chris: looking at it
<scribe> ACTION: Chris to look at Silvia's comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-231 - Look at Silvia's comment [on Chris Poppe - due 2010-04-20].
Wonsuk: setter operations
... if we go to LC, I think our goal is just for getter
operations, right?
... so we have to decide whether we will have setter operations
or not
Joakim: there are technical issues for setters we have not solved, right?
Felix: I think these issues will not be solved during this charter of the Working Group
<pchampin> I agree with Felix
Joakim: there is the problem of
information loss we have to cope with
... if we decide to exclude setter ops. in the LC, what impact
will that have?
Felix: there is no impact from
the W3C process point of view
... if the WG agrees not to do this, that is fine
<pchampin> +1 for checking the impact of setters against the use cases
Felix: (speaking personally, you might want to confirm with Thierry)
joakim: checking the impact of setters against the use cases might be good
<pchampin> you can action me
<scribe> ACTION: pchampin to check the impact on use cases of excluding setter operations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-232 - Check the impact on use cases of excluding setter operations [on Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2010-04-20].
joakim: who is working on ontology review
wonsuk: veronique is working on that
joakim: how about setting a
deadline for updating the mapping table? If there is no update,
we exclude the format from the spec
... e.g. 4th of May
Wonsuk: we have to make a
decision for the mapping table as well
... we have to decide for LC what to include and what to
exclude for mapping table
... we have to set final dates for updating mapping table.
After that we decide what to include in the ontology
document.
<joakim> shall we make it 20/4?
Felix: fine by me
Wonsuk: agree
... Silvia proposed OGG format, we have to decide whether we
want to add that to the mapping table
... Silvia is an expert in that area, so I think we can believe
her
From Silvia: "I checked your list of possible additional elements in comparison with what is available for Ogg through Vorbiscomment or Skeleton and these are some that you don't seem to have considered yet: ..."
scribe: CONTACT and ENCODER
(from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/0008.html )
Silvias mapping table is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/att-0008/OggMetadata.html
<scribe> ACTION: Thierry to add mapping table for OGG (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/att-0008/OggMetadata.html ) to the mapping table [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-233 - Add mapping table for OGG (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/att-0008/OggMetadata.html ) to the mapping table [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-04-20].
Joakim: mapping for XMP?
Felix: I am working on that
... again hopefully done this week
Joakim: Chris is working on the example, will hear about it at the f2f meeting
<pchampin> next call is tomorrow
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