SPARQL Working Group

Minutes of 03 May 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-05-03
Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Nicholas Humfrey, Olivier Corby, Paul Gearon, Sandro Hawke, Steve Harris
Chair
Axel Polleres
Scribe
Alexandre Passant
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-26 link
  2. publish SPARQL1.1 Query as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 link
  3. publish SPARQL1.1 Update as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-454 and ACTION-453 link
  4. publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-456, no objections, one abstention link
  5. publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-458 link
  6. Extend the meeting to discuss other two documents link
  7. publish SPARQL 1.1 Graph Store HTTP Protocol as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29, no objections, no abstentions link
Topics
13:56:40 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-sparql-irc

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13:56:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, this will be SPARQL

Axel Polleres: Zakim, this will be SPARQL

13:56:54 <Zakim> ok, AxelPolleres; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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13:57:17 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-05-03
13:57:34 <AxelPolleres> any regrets?

Axel Polleres: any regrets?

13:57:46 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
13:58:20 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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13:58:37 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres

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13:58:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:58:58 <Zakim> +??P7

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13:59:01 <NickH> Zakim, ??P5 is me

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13:59:03 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me

13:59:03 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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13:59:11 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P7 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P7 is me

13:59:11 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

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13:59:18 <Zakim> + +44.186.528.aaaa

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13:59:21 <Zakim> +kasei

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13:59:22 <NickH> The early bird gets the UK phone line

Nicholas Humfrey: The early bird gets the UK phone line

13:59:32 <bglimm> Zakim, +44.186.528.aaaa is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, +44.186.528.aaaa is me

13:59:32 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

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13:59:39 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

13:59:52 <kasei> bglimm, did you see my proposed service description changes for the entailment properties?

Gregory Williams: bglimm, did you see my proposed service description changes for the entailment properties?

14:00:16 <bglimm> Greg, no, I didn't see it

Birte Glimm: Greg, no, I didn't see it

14:00:21 <bglimm> Did you email?

Birte Glimm: Did you email?

14:00:24 <kasei> in email last night

Gregory Williams: in email last night

14:00:37 <bglimm> Hm, I checked today, but mst have overlooked it

Birte Glimm: Hm, I checked today, but mst have overlooked it

14:00:40 <bglimm> Will have a look now

Birte Glimm: Will have a look now

14:01:29 <LeeF> AxelPolleres, SteveH and I discussed Dave Beckett's comments and do not believe that there are any substantive changes that arise from them

Lee Feigenbaum: AxelPolleres, SteveH and I discussed Dave Beckett's comments and do not believe that there are any substantive changes that arise from them

14:01:48 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:01:49 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aabb

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14:01:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm, kasei, pgearon, +1.617.553.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm, kasei, pgearon, +1.617.553.aabb

14:01:56 <LeeF> zakim, LeeF is aabb

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, LeeF is aabb

14:01:59 <Zakim> sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named 'LeeF'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named 'LeeF'

14:02:02 <LeeF> zakim, aabb is LeeF

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aabb is LeeF

14:02:03 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it

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14:02:09 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aacc

14:02:23 <MattPerry> zakim, aacc is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, aacc is me

14:02:23 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

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14:02:53 <Zakim> +[Sophia]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[Sophia]

14:03:32 <bglimm> Greg, I think what you propose in the mail is good

Birte Glimm: Greg, I think what you propose in the mail is good

14:03:36 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:03:36 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

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14:03:50 <kasei> bglimm, ok, good. I think that was the last remaining issue.

Gregory Williams: bglimm, ok, good. I think that was the last remaining issue.

14:03:59 <kasei> Zakim, who is talking?

Gregory Williams: Zakim, who is talking?

14:04:10 <Zakim> kasei, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: LeeF (46%), AxelPolleres (25%), AndyS (3%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: LeeF (46%), AxelPolleres (25%), AndyS (3%)

14:04:26 <Zakim> + +3539149aadd

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14:04:26 <Zakim> +sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro

14:04:39 <alexpassant> Zakim, +3539149aadd is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +3539149aadd is me

14:04:39 <Zakim> +alexpassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alexpassant; got it

14:04:43 <Zakim> +??P29

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29

14:04:43 <NickH> Zakim, mute LeeF

Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute LeeF

14:04:45 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted

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14:04:45 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Alex Passant

(Scribe set to Alexandre Passant)

14:04:55 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P29 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P29 is me

14:04:55 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:05:24 <alexpassant> topic: admin

1. admin

14:05:28 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-0

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-0

14:05:28 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: approve the minutes from last time

Axel Polleres: approve the minutes from last time

14:05:29 <Zakim> +??P32

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14:05:35 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-26

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-26

14:05:43 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P32 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P32 is me

14:05:43 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:05:46 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH

14:06:08 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-26

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-04-26

14:06:29 <alexpassant> ... next meeting - next week

... next meeting - next week

14:06:48 <alexpassant> topic: Last call publications of documents

2. Last call publications of documents

14:06:53 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_Last_Call

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_Last_Call

14:07:09 <alexpassant> ... points to check for every documents, in the agenda

... points to check for every documents, in the agenda

14:07:11 <alexpassant> ... start with query

... start with query

14:07:16 <alexpassant> ... are editors ok for LC ?

... are editors ok for LC ?

14:07:40 <alexpassant> AndyS: yes, need to check the aggregate example with SteveH

Andy Seaborne: yes, need to check the aggregate example with SteveH

14:07:54 <alexpassant> ... ready in terms of content

... ready in terms of content

14:08:13 <alexpassant> SteveH: pubchecker

Steve Harris: pubchecker

14:08:20 <LeeF> best effort is good enough for me!

Lee Feigenbaum: best effort is good enough for me!

14:08:25 <LeeF> i'm happy to wrestle with the rest of it

Lee Feigenbaum: i'm happy to wrestle with the rest of it

14:08:28 <alexpassant> ... except some wording, similar to other WD

... except some wording, similar to other WD

14:08:31 <LeeF> ack me

Lee Feigenbaum: ack me

14:08:31 <bglimm> I added

Birte Glimm: I added

14:08:37 <bglimm> This document is a Last Call Working Draft.

Birte Glimm: This document is a Last Call Working Draft.

14:08:37 <bglimm>       Publication as a Last Call Working Draft indicates that the SPARQL Working Group believes it has

Birte Glimm: Publication as a Last Call Working Draft indicates that the SPARQL Working Group believes it has

14:08:37 <bglimm>       addressed all substantive issues and that the document is stable. The Working Group expects to advance this specification to Recommendation Status.

Birte Glimm: addressed all substantive issues and that the document is stable. The Working Group expects to advance this specification to Recommendation Status.

14:08:38 <bglimm> Comments on this document should be sent to public-rdf-dawg-comments@w3.org, a mailing list with

Birte Glimm: Comments on this document should be sent to public-rdf-dawg-comments@w3.org, a mailing list with

14:08:38 <bglimm>       a public archive. Comments on this working draft are due on or before

Birte Glimm: a public archive. Comments on this working draft are due on or before

14:08:38 <bglimm>        29 July 2011.

Birte Glimm: 29 July 2011.

14:08:48 <bglimm> To make the pub rule checker happy

Birte Glimm: To make the pub rule checker happy

14:09:03 <alexpassant> LeeF: if pubrules is happy, I'm happy

Lee Feigenbaum: if pubrules is happy, I'm happy

14:09:10 <alexpassant> SteveH: changes between the previous WD and the current oen

Steve Harris: changes between the previous WD and the current oen

14:09:18 <alexpassant> ... havent done anything about that now

... havent done anything about that now

14:09:38 <bglimm> pub rul cchecker want the keyword "Last Call Working Draft" and an end date for a review period

Birte Glimm: pub rul cchecker want the keyword "Last Call Working Draft" and an end date for a review period

14:09:40 <alexpassant> sandro: would do a diff rather than CVS

Sandro Hawke: would do a diff rather than CVS

14:10:20 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: ask editors to do the changes section

Axel Polleres: ask editors to do the changes section

14:10:25 <alexpassant> ... we can leave it out if not here

... we can leave it out if not here

14:10:46 <alexpassant> ... happy to leave it out it no time

... happy to leave it out it no time

14:11:02 <alexpassant> ... would like to drop the CVS log

... would like to drop the CVS log

14:11:57 <pgearon> +1 for dropping the logs

Paul Gearon: +1 for dropping the logs

14:12:08 <bglimm> I created pub rule checking

Birte Glimm: I created pub rule checking

14:12:10 <bglimm> doc

Birte Glimm: doc

14:12:23 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Pub-Process

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Pub-Process

14:12:24 <alexpassant> ... birte done a summary of pubrules

... birte done a summary of pubrules

14:12:31 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:12:31 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:13:21 <alexpassant> ... any critical comments about Query ?

... any critical comments about Query ?

14:13:29 <alexpassant> ... only one I'm worried about is Dave Beckett comment

... only one I'm worried about is Dave Beckett comment

14:13:49 <Zakim> + +1.216.368.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.368.aaee

14:14:03 <alexpassant> SteveH: nothing that cause any publication problem

Steve Harris: nothing that cause any publication problem

14:14:03 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me

14:14:03 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it

14:14:09 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

14:14:09 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted

14:14:19 <alexpassant> SteveH: response has been updated

Steve Harris: response has been updated

14:14:44 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:14:44 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:15:19 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:15:19 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:15:35 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:15:35 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:15:47 <LeeF> q+ to discuss dates

Lee Feigenbaum: q+ to discuss dates

14:16:21 <alexpassant> LeeF: date to end the LC

Lee Feigenbaum: date to end the LC

14:16:30 <alexpassant> ... need some time to let people look at it

... need some time to let people look at it

14:16:33 <alexpassant> ... min 6 weeks

... min 6 weeks

14:16:40 <alexpassant> ... then running into the summer

... then running into the summer

14:16:45 <alexpassant> ... people slowing down

... people slowing down

14:16:50 <bglimm> 29 July

Birte Glimm: 29 July

14:17:06 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:17:06 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:17:19 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:17:19 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:17:32 <alexpassant> ... third week of june for the minimum

... third week of june for the minimum

14:17:45 <alexpassant> ... gives a slim change to publish other documents as LC and get them at the same time

... gives a slim change to publish other documents as LC and get them at the same time

14:17:51 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

14:17:56 <alexpassant> ... include that date as part of the resolution

... include that date as part of the resolution

14:18:25 <LeeF> Do our reviewers support publishing as is?

Lee Feigenbaum: Do our reviewers support publishing as is?

14:18:47 <LeeF> +1 to pgearon's comment

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 to pgearon's comment

14:18:56 <alexpassant> pgearon: oportunity to get feedback at semtech

Paul Gearon: oportunity to get feedback at semtech

14:19:28 <AndyS> Seconded

Andy Seaborne: Seconded

14:19:30 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

14:19:34 <LeeF> +1 to publishing query LC

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 to publishing query LC

14:19:37 <SteveH> +1

Steve Harris: +1

14:19:38 <sandro> +1 (W3C)

Sandro Hawke: +1 (W3C)

14:19:38 <alexpassant> +1

+1

14:19:38 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

14:19:40 <cbuilara> +1

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1

14:19:42 <OlivierCorby> +1

Olivier Corby: +1

14:19:45 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

14:19:46 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

14:19:49 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

14:19:51 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

14:20:03 <pgearon> +1

Paul Gearon: +1

14:20:32 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:20:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], alexpassant, sandro, SteveH, chimezie (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], alexpassant, sandro, SteveH, chimezie (muted)

14:20:44 <LeeF> NickH?

Lee Feigenbaum: NickH?

14:20:49 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

14:20:50 <chimezie> i have

Chimezie Ogbuji: i have

14:20:57 <LeeF> thanks!

Lee Feigenbaum: thanks!

14:21:28 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Query as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

14:21:36 <LeeF> ...with no objections or abstentions

Lee Feigenbaum: ...with no objections or abstentions

14:21:50 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: next document: Update

Axel Polleres: next document: Update

14:22:48 <SteveH> it's a capitalisation issue

Steve Harris: it's a capitalisation issue

14:22:55 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

14:22:58 <SteveH> "Th�is", not "this"

Steve Harris: "Th�is", not "this"

14:22:58 <pgearon> generated HTML for Update is: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.html

Paul Gearon: generated HTML for Update is: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.html

14:22:59 <LeeF> ack

Lee Feigenbaum: ack

14:23:02 <LeeF> ack me

Lee Feigenbaum: ack me

14:23:02 <Zakim> LeeF, you wanted to discuss dates

Zakim IRC Bot: LeeF, you wanted to discuss dates

14:23:24 <LeeF> SteveH, where?

Lee Feigenbaum: SteveH, where?

14:23:35 <SteveH> LeeF, in the title "Status of This Document"

Steve Harris: LeeF, in the title "Status of This Document"

14:23:41 <SteveH> our XSLT produces "this"

Steve Harris: our XSLT produces "this"

14:23:50 <LeeF> wow

Lee Feigenbaum: wow

14:23:51 <SteveH> I fixed it in the query-1.1 one

Steve Harris: I fixed it in the query-1.1 one

14:23:53 <LeeF> how dumb

Lee Feigenbaum: how dumb

14:23:54 <LeeF> :-)

Lee Feigenbaum: :-)

14:24:22 <SteveH> well, someone had to draw a line somwhere :)

Steve Harris: well, someone had to draw a line somwhere :)

14:24:33 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: dont see intractions between USING and USING NAME

Axel Polleres: dont see intractions between USING and USING NAMED

14:24:42 <alexpassant> ... just a macro for graphs around unnamed patterns

... just a macro for graphs around unnamed patterns

14:24:52 <alexpassant> s/NAME/NAMED
14:25:44 <alexpassant> ... ok with the current wording ?

... ok with the current wording ?

14:26:41 <alexpassant> kasei: I'm happy with the changes

Gregory Williams: I'm happy with the changes

14:27:09 <alexpassant> there's the "do we need USING DEFAULT -- PROPOSED: move that to "Postponed Issues""

there's the "do we need USING DEFAULT -- PROPOSED: move that to "Postponed Issues""

14:27:36 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jan/0000.html

Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jan/0000.html

14:28:13 <AxelPolleres> draft rtesponse here... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-2

Axel Polleres: draft rtesponse here... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-2

14:29:15 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MS-1

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MS-1

14:30:43 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: commentfrom MS, critical for LC ?

Axel Polleres: commentfrom MS, critical for LC ?

14:30:52 <alexpassant> alexpassant: no, no crotical

Alexandre Passant: no, no critical

14:31:01 <alexpassant> s/crotical/critical
14:31:20 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:ST-1

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:ST-1

14:31:28 <LeeF> pgearon, let's get this wording straightened out, and then I'll fix the status stuff in the generated HTML

Lee Feigenbaum: pgearon, let's get this wording straightened out, and then I'll fix the status stuff in the generated HTML

14:31:43 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RN-1

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RN-1

14:31:50 <pgearon> LeeF: ok

Lee Feigenbaum: ok [ Scribe Assist by Paul Gearon ]

14:32:30 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: need to be sure that the comments are not critical

Axel Polleres: need to be sure that the comments are not critical

14:32:56 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to confirm with Paul and Alex that open comments don't contain LC critical parts that are still open

ACTION: Axel to confirm with Paul and Alex that open comments don't contain LC critical parts that are still open

14:32:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-453 - Confirm with Paul and Alex that open comments don't contain LC critical parts that are still open [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-453 - Confirm with Paul and Alex that open comments don't contain LC critical parts that are still open [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-05-10].

14:33:40 <bglimm> q+ to ask about links of federated query and json

Birte Glimm: q+ to ask about links of federated query and json

14:34:07 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:34:07 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:34:25 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federation/

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federation/

14:34:32 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/

14:34:33 <alexpassant> bglimm: some broken links to other documents

Birte Glimm: some broken links to other documents

14:34:42 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/

14:35:37 <alexpassant> ... 404 links

... 404 links

14:35:41 <alexpassant> ... which one to chose for JSON

... which one to chose for JSON

14:36:24 <LeeF> I suggest removing reference to JSON document and adding it back in at some point in the future

Lee Feigenbaum: I suggest removing reference to JSON document and adding it back in at some point in the future

14:37:11 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: let the JSON doc aside for the moment

Axel Polleres: let the JSON doc aside for the moment

14:37:20 <LeeF> We can keep it in unlinked also, I don't really care.

Lee Feigenbaum: We can keep it in unlinked also, I don't really care.

14:37:32 <alexpassant> AndyS: lets make it unlinked

Andy Seaborne: lets make it unlinked

14:38:32 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:38:32 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

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14:38:42 <NickH> Zakim, who is talking?

Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, who is talking?

14:38:44 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: update wording of the WITH, one more person to review

Axel Polleres: update wording of the WITH, one more person to review

14:38:53 <Zakim> NickH, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres (86%)

Zakim IRC Bot: NickH, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres (86%)

14:39:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to approve rewording for WITH in update if any

ACTION: Andy to approve rewording for WITH in update if any

14:39:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-454 - Approve rewording for WITH in update if any [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-454 - Approve rewording for WITH in update if any [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-05-10].

14:39:48 <alexpassant> ... sorting that with paul after the call

... sorting that with paul after the call

14:39:54 <alexpassant> ... go ahead with proposal to LC

... go ahead with proposal to LC

14:40:50 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Update  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-454 and ACTION-453

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Update as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-454 and ACTION-453

14:41:13 <LeeF> I'm OK with that

Lee Feigenbaum: I'm OK with that

14:41:57 <SteveH> +1 (Garlik)

Steve Harris: +1 (Garlik)

14:42:02 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

14:42:03 <sandro> +1 (W3C)

Sandro Hawke: +1 (W3C)

14:42:04 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

14:42:05 <LeeF> +1 (Cambridge Semanics)

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 (Cambridge Semanics)

14:42:06 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

14:42:06 <bglimm> +1 (The University of Oxford)

Birte Glimm: +1 (The University of Oxford)

14:42:08 <OlivierCorby> +1 (INRIA)

Olivier Corby: +1 (INRIA)

14:42:11 <pgearon> +1

Paul Gearon: +1

14:42:11 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

14:42:11 <cbuilara> +1 (UPM)

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 (UPM)

14:42:18 <alexpassant> +1 (DERI)

+1 (DERI)

14:42:48 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:42:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], alexpassant, sandro, SteveH, chimezie (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], alexpassant, sandro, SteveH, chimezie (muted)

14:42:51 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

14:43:26 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Update  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-454 and ACTION-453

RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Update as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-454 and ACTION-453

14:43:43 <AxelPolleres> ... with no objections and no abstentions

Axel Polleres: ... with no objections and no abstentions

14:44:04 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: next, SD

Axel Polleres: next, SD

14:44:11 <alexpassant> ... ready ?

... ready ?

14:44:44 <alexpassant> kasei: request to add use of entailement in the examples

Gregory Williams: request to add use of entailement in the examples

14:44:53 <alexpassant> ... so that SD can describe entailement

... so that SD can describe entailement

14:45:08 <alexpassant> ... and samepl SD shown in Turtle, in addition to RDF/XML

... and samepl SD shown in Turtle, in addition to RDF/XML

14:45:18 <bglimm> Yes

Birte Glimm: Yes

14:46:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle

ACTION: greg to add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle

14:46:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-455 - Add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-455 - Add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-05-10].

14:46:44 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to approve completion of ATION-455

ACTION: Birte to approve completion of ATION-455

14:46:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-456 - Approve completion of ATION-455 [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-456 - Approve completion of ATION-455 [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-05-10].

14:47:38 <alex_> kasei: no major issues in open comments. 2 comments from Rob Vesse, mostly editorial

Gregory Williams: no major issues in open comments. 2 comments from Rob Vesse, mostly editorial

14:47:54 <alex_> Zakim: scribe is alex_

Zakim IRC Bot: scribe is alex_

14:48:32 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: all comments addressed from reviewers

Axel Polleres: all comments addressed from reviewers

14:48:36 <LeeF> +1

Lee Feigenbaum: +1

14:49:10 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-456

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-456

14:49:36 <bglimm> +1 (The University of Oxford)

Birte Glimm: +1 (The University of Oxford)

14:49:38 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

14:49:39 <LeeF> +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

14:49:39 <OlivierCorby> +1 (INRIA)

Olivier Corby: +1 (INRIA)

14:49:40 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

14:49:40 <cbuilara> +1 (UPM)

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 (UPM)

14:49:42 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

14:49:44 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

14:49:45 <alexpassant> +1 (DERI)

+1 (DERI)

14:49:48 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)

Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix)

14:49:50 <sandro> +0 (W3C)

Sandro Hawke: +0 (W3C)

14:50:05 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

14:50:35 <sandro> (Nothing big -- I'm just not a fan of this whole design....  Certainly not opposed, just not a fan.)

Sandro Hawke: (Nothing big -- I'm just not a fan of this whole design.... Certainly not opposed, just not a fan.)

14:51:30 <kasei> sandro, not a fan of the SD thing in general? or something specific about this specific design?

Gregory Williams: sandro, not a fan of the SD thing in general? or something specific about this specific design?

14:51:51 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-456, no objections, one abstention

RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-456, no objections, one abstention

14:52:54 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:52:54 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

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14:53:18 <AxelPolleres> topic: entailment

3. entailment

14:53:49 <sandro> kasei, I think SD is being used to solve problems (like selecting entailment) that would be better done in other ways.

Sandro Hawke: kasei, I think SD is being used to solve problems (like selecting entailment) that would be better done in other ways.

14:55:10 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

14:55:19 <AxelPolleres> ack bglimm

Axel Polleres: ack bglimm

14:55:19 <Zakim> bglimm, you wanted to ask about links of federated query and json

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm, you wanted to ask about links of federated query and json

14:55:54 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

14:56:14 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

14:56:15 <bglimm> +1 (The University of Oxford)

Birte Glimm: +1 (The University of Oxford)

14:56:15 <LeeF> +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

14:56:16 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

14:56:17 <cbuilara> +1 (UPM)

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 (UPM)

14:56:18 <OlivierCorby> +1 (INRIA)

Olivier Corby: +1 (INRIA)

14:56:18 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

14:56:18 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

14:56:19 <alexpassant> +1 (DERI)

+1 (DERI)

14:56:25 <SteveH> +1 (Garlik)

Steve Harris: +1 (Garlik)

14:56:27 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)

Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix)

14:57:00 <sandro> +1 (W3C) --- assuming RIF-in-RDF stuff in this is fixed, as per email between me and Axel

Sandro Hawke: +1 (W3C) --- assuming RIF-in-RDF stuff in this is fixed, as per email between me and Axel

14:57:00 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

14:57:45 <bglimm> So we have to update the entailment doc with a new RIF-in-RDF URL?

Birte Glimm: So we have to update the entailment doc with a new RIF-in-RDF URL?

14:57:46 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: sandro to fix RIF-in RDF note, publish it, and fix reference in the entailemt doc

ACTION: sandro to fix RIF-in RDF note, publish it, and fix reference in the entailemt doc

14:57:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-458 - Fix RIF-in RDF note, publish it, and fix reference in the entailemt doc  [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-458 - Fix RIF-in RDF note, publish it, and fix reference in the entailemt doc [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-05-10].

14:58:33 <sandro> This includes fixing a couple minor errors in the example.

Sandro Hawke: This includes fixing a couple minor errors in the example.

14:58:56 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-458

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-458

14:59:07 <sandro> +1 (W3C)

Sandro Hawke: +1 (W3C)

14:59:07 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

14:59:09 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

14:59:10 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)

Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix)

14:59:11 <LeeF> +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

14:59:12 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

14:59:12 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

14:59:13 <cbuilara> +1 (UPM)

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 (UPM)

14:59:14 <SteveH> +1 (Garlik)

Steve Harris: +1 (Garlik)

14:59:15 <OlivierCorby> +1 (INRIA)

Olivier Corby: +1 (INRIA)

14:59:17 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

14:59:20 <bglimm> +1 (The University of Oxford)

Birte Glimm: +1 (The University of Oxford)

14:59:51 <alexpassant> +1 (DERI)

+1 (DERI)

14:59:57 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes  as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-458

RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Entailment Regimes as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29 modulo completion of ACTION-458

15:00:41 <LeeF> graph store protocol

Lee Feigenbaum: graph store protocol

15:00:54 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me

15:00:54 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted

15:01:37 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

15:01:37 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

15:01:39 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

15:02:18 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:02:33 <NickH> can stay

Nicholas Humfrey: can stay

15:02:39 <alexpassant> can't stay

can't stay

15:02:49 <alexpassant> can someone take the scribe role?

can someone take the scribe role?

15:03:14 <chimezie> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-6

Chimezie Ogbuji: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-6

15:03:21 <sandro> RESOLVED: Extend the meeting to discuss other two documents

RESOLVED: Extend the meeting to discuss other two documents

15:04:55 <Zakim> -alexpassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -alexpassant

15:04:59 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL 1.1 Graph Store HTTP Protocol as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

PROPOSED: publish SPARQL 1.1 Graph Store HTTP Protocol as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29

15:05:13 <bglimm> +1 (The University of Oxford)

Birte Glimm: +1 (The University of Oxford)

15:05:16 <NickH> +1 (BBC)

Nicholas Humfrey: +1 (BBC)

15:05:18 <chimezie> +1 (IE)

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE)

15:05:18 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)

Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle)

15:05:20 <cbuilara> +1 (UPM)

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 (UPM)

15:05:21 <kasei> +1 (RPI)

Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI)

15:05:21 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)

Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF)

15:05:22 <LeeF> +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 (Cambridge Semantics)

15:05:23 <SteveH> +1 (Garlik)

Steve Harris: +1 (Garlik)

15:05:24 <AxelPolleres> +1 (DERI)

Axel Polleres: +1 (DERI)

15:05:25 <OlivierCorby> +1 (INRIA)

Olivier Corby: +1 (INRIA)

15:05:30 <sandro> +1 (W3C)

Sandro Hawke: +1 (W3C)

15:05:30 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)

Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix)

15:05:57 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:05:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], sandro, SteveH, chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH, AxelPolleres, AndyS, cbuilara, bglimm (muted), kasei, pgearon, LeeF, MattPerry, [Sophia], sandro, SteveH, chimezie

15:06:21 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL 1.1 Graph Store HTTP Protocol as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29, no objections, no abstentions

RESOLVED: publish SPARQL 1.1 Graph Store HTTP Protocol as Last call working draft with publication date May 12 and comments period until July 29, no objections, no abstentions

15:07:06 <LeeF> thanks to all of the editors for all of the hard work getting this far!

Lee Feigenbaum: thanks to all of the editors for all of the hard work getting this far!

15:07:26 <LeeF> and congratulations to the whole group for getting this far

Lee Feigenbaum: and congratulations to the whole group for getting this far

15:07:41 <AxelPolleres> adjourned

Axel Polleres: adjourned

15:07:44 <Zakim> -[Sophia]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[Sophia]

15:07:47 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie

15:07:48 <chimezie> later

Chimezie Ogbuji: later

15:07:50 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH

15:07:53 <NickH> well done everyone!

Nicholas Humfrey: well done everyone!

15:07:53 <Zakim> -bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm

15:07:55 <MattPerry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye

15:07:56 <Zakim> -cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara

15:08:00 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

15:08:02 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

15:08:06 <Zakim> -NickH

Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH

15:09:39 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th)

ACTION: Axel to send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th)

15:09:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-459 - Send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th) [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-05-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-459 - Send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th) [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-05-10].

15:12:15 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

15:12:16 <Zakim> -sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro

15:12:17 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres

15:12:35 <sandro> AxelPolleres, LeeF --- great job you guys....   and everyone   :-)

Sandro Hawke: AxelPolleres, LeeF --- great job you guys.... and everyone :-)

15:13:29 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public

15:13:58 <AxelPolleres> THanks to everyone! and let's take that spin to also finish the other docs in the coming weeks! ;-)

Axel Polleres: THanks to everyone! and let's take that spin to also finish the other docs in the coming weeks! ;-)



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