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<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-minutes.html#action01]
AM: we need more orientation and a clearer scope to get people interested
RW: agree
<scribe> ACTION: Rigo to talk to chairs about scope and teleconference frequency [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-minutes.html#action02]
http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/
we received 20 Papers
and so far we have 20 registrations for the workshop
PC has already done the agenda
it will be published soon
Position papers come academia, but also from big industry
not from SMEs
talked to Eduardo Gutentag at TPAC
EG said, he is concerned about fragmentation if we spin out semantics standardization to W3C
RW ack'ed will discuss that at the Workshop
AM: agree with possible problem on fragmentation,
we should really think about it
... what has been the uptake of XACML
RW: industry partners tell me that's the default
ACL for WS
... primelife uses XACML to connect to most of the commercial database engines
and OS database engines
... PRIME used HP's jena engine
... one could imagine that primelife is implementable with Jena too
RW: attended their meeting at TPAC
... discussed about how to connect policy information to their ontology
... updated the wiki: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/MAWGFeedback
... we should be inspired by them
... have already things like ma: copyright (type URI)
... suggested ma:policy
... tasked me to come back with a paragraph with meaning/definition of
ma:policy
... as ontology does only matching, just introduce another language
... suggested P3P and ODRL
AM: if they are only translating, where does policy come in
RW: one of the things we discussed, was whether
they create some kind of superset language
... they said step for MA 2.0
... they have list of languages they match
... we just add and it will become part of the overall ontology
... were actually very accommodating to our request
AM: geoloc document has now requirements
... implementations have to guarantee privacy, it is a step forward, it is
only requirements, but getting there
RW: talked to Arun about FF. 3.5 implementation
and who to integrate Primelife results
... for geolocation interface
... mainly about usability studies
<Ashok> Section 4 has been expanded in the latest WG drafr
Primelife found the working privacy icon, footprints
scribe: talked about geolocation interface
... currently very crappy
... because one has to go to the page where location permission was given in
order to revoke
... so they have that interface open to fix anyway
AM: TOPIC Device API
AM: going to standardize several device APIs and
they want to have the policy coordinated between the different APIs
... that is encouraging sign..
RW: looks better than geolocation
... suggest not to discuss charter today, as we are not enough people
... after workshop, discuss again and perhaps narrow down
AM: we have to have concrete deliverables in the new charter
RW: agree