W3C

PLING Teleconference

10 Nov 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Rigo Wenning, Ashok Malhotra
Regrets
Renato Iannella, Marco Casassa-Mont, Thomas Roessler
Chair
Rigo Wenning
Scribe
Rigo Wenning

Contents


<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-minutes.html#action01]

AM: we need more orientation and a clearer scope to get people interested

RW: agree

<scribe> ACTION: Rigo to talk to chairs about scope and teleconference frequency [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-minutes.html#action02]

Latest news from ACAS Workshop

http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/

we received 20 Papers

and so far we have 20 registrations for the workshop

PC has already done the agenda

it will be published soon

Position papers come academia, but also from big industry

not from SMEs

talked to Eduardo Gutentag at TPAC

EG said, he is concerned about fragmentation if we spin out semantics standardization to W3C

RW ack'ed will discuss that at the Workshop

AM: agree with possible problem on fragmentation, we should really think about it
... what has been the uptake of XACML

RW: industry partners tell me that's the default ACL for WS
... primelife uses XACML to connect to most of the commercial database engines and OS database engines
... PRIME used HP's jena engine
... one could imagine that primelife is implementable with Jena too

Multimedia Annotations Working Group Feedback

RW: attended their meeting at TPAC
... discussed about how to connect policy information to their ontology
... updated the wiki: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/MAWGFeedback
... we should be inspired by them
... have already things like ma: copyright (type URI)
... suggested ma:policy
... tasked me to come back with a paragraph with meaning/definition of ma:policy
... as ontology does only matching, just introduce another language
... suggested P3P and ODRL

AM: if they are only translating, where does policy come in

RW: one of the things we discussed, was whether they create some kind of superset language
... they said step for MA 2.0
... they have list of languages they match
... we just add and it will become part of the overall ontology
... were actually very accommodating to our request

Geolocation

AM: geoloc document has now requirements
... implementations have to guarantee privacy, it is a step forward, it is only requirements, but getting there

RW: talked to Arun about FF. 3.5 implementation and who to integrate Primelife results
... for geolocation interface
... mainly about usability studies

<Ashok> Section 4 has been expanded in the latest WG drafr

Primelife found the working privacy icon, footprints

scribe: talked about geolocation interface
... currently very crappy
... because one has to go to the page where location permission was given in order to revoke
... so they have that interface open to fix anyway

AM: TOPIC Device API

Device API

AM: going to standardize several device APIs and they want to have the policy coordinated between the different APIs
... that is encouraging sign..

RW: looks better than geolocation
... suggest not to discuss charter today, as we are not enough people
... after workshop, discuss again and perhaps narrow down

AM: we have to have concrete deliverables in the new charter

RW: agree

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Rigo to talk to chairs about scope and teleconference frequency [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-minutes.html#action02]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-minutes.html#action01]
 
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