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<trackbot> Date: 16 September 2009
Shane: Oh I forgot to produce
it!
... I'll do it now
Steven: Hopefully we can resolve to go to PER again next week
<scribe> scribe: Steven
Steven: A heads up that
addEventListenerNS and removeEventListenerNS are at risk
...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0011
Shane: I don't think we rely on this
Steven: You think the NS os for the element and not the event?
Shane: Yes
Steven: I'll ask the XForms
implementors
... see what they say
http://beta.w3.org/TR/tr-groups-all.html
Steven: Get the PERs out,
transfer docs to groups that are taking them over (Events,
role?, access)
... publish notes, such as media types
... And then find a home for XHTML2 and M12Nv2
Shane: I raised with plh about updating M12N(1.1), and plh was OK with that. I think there are a couple of changes
Steven: Yes, @usemap
Shane: There are a number of minor things
Steven: Good, then we'll add that to the list
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0007
Steven: Even though we're not
updating 1.0, it would be polite to reply
... do you remember if this was deliberate?
Shane: I don't
... my gut feeling is that it's an omission
Steven: Me too, surprised nobody mentioned it before
Tina: It does have accessibility problems
Steven: Agree
Shane: But regardless
... is it strict or transitional
Tina: I agree it should be in there
Shane: Strict
... we could update the DTDs
Tina: We could just refer
him
... we do have other things to do
Steven: OK, I will just tell him that
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to reply to @ismap message [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Reply to @ismap message [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-09-23].
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0006
Shane: Not sure I agree
... he's not saying it's wrong, just easier for validators
Tiina: This is a non-issue for XHTML 1.0
Shane: We permit empty body
deliberately
... but he's right
... HTML4 does not
Steven: I'll just say he's right, but that's as far as we can take it
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0005
Steven: I haven't checked this section, but I'm assuming he's right
Shane: He's right
... I fixed it
<ShaneM> Note - I updated xhtml1-strict.dtd and xhtml1-transitional.dtd in MarkUp/DTD
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0034
Shane: He's not wrong
... we should say that the start tag may contain a
schemalocation attributre from the xml namespace that
associates ...
... we're talking about the start tag so it would have to have
the namespace declarations
Steven: to be valid it would have
to include the namespace declaration; do we really need to say
that?
... Do you object to his wording?
Shane: Well, it mentions xsi:
<ShaneM> <p><may>The start tag MAY also contain the
<ShaneM> declaration of the
<ShaneM> XML Schema Namespace and a
<ShaneM> <code>schemaLocation</code> attribute from that namespace
<ShaneM> that associates this namespace with the XML Schema at the
<ShaneM> URI <code><xmlschemaloc></code>.</may></p>
<ShaneM> <p><may>The start tag MAY also contain the declaration of the XML Schema Namespace and an XML Schema <code>schemaLocation</code> attribute. Such an attribute would associate the XHTML namespace <code><xmlns></code> with the XML Schema at the URI <code><xmlschemaloc></code>.</may></p>
Steven: OK by me
Shane: So we'll update the specs with that
Steven: And the DTD *and* schema wording from last week
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0033
Steven: This is for M12N
Shane: This means that class
can't be empty, and is Bad
... It is vital we fix this
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jun/0003
Shane: I dealt with this
<ShaneM> I sent:
<ShaneM> Thanks for your comment. @lang is not deprecated, and no, it does not need to be included in the module in XHTML M12N. We have chosen to incorporate it into XHTML 1.1 because several groups have demonstrated a need for it. The rules specified describe the relationship between @lang and @xml:lang.
Steven: You are right
Shane: I will update the docs for next week.
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