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XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

10 Jun 2009

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Attendees

Present
Steven, +1.763.767.aaaa, +04670602aabb, Markus, MoZ, +0468645aacc, Tina
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Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Markus

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 10 June 2009

<Tina> Could someone remind me of that number again ...

<scribe> scribe: Markus

<Steven> Scribe: Markus

PER Issues

<ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/htmlwg/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html

Issue: 9716

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-6 - 9716 ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/issues/6/edit .

Shane: 9716 marked as closed
... its the same comment as Hickson made

Shane to send a reply to 9716 issuer

Subtopic: issue 480

Shane: form and image elements not having a name attribute - we discussed this in the context of 1.0. 1.1 which is based on 1.0 strict also doesnt have name on form and image.

Steven: related to 8415

MoZ: Agree, they are related

Markus: do we have a legacy reasons to maintain these in 1.1

Shane: Yes - HTML DOM creates named entires for the based on name attribute, not id attributes
... but perhaps this is not true in modern browsers

The comment (480) says theres a typo; that we are not correctly representing the removal; not suggesting reintroduction.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to ask Alessio to tell us if HTML DOM still requires @name on form and image [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Ask Alessio to tell us if HTML DOM still requires @name on form and image [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-06-17].

Subtopic: Issue 489

Shane: this is fixed.

Subtopic: Issue 478

<Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/htmlwg/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec13

<Steven> I mean: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec13

Shane: in MOD we call it the tables module. In XHTML 1.1 its called the table module.

Steven: editorial. Change the reference from 1.1 to MOD

Subtopic: Issue 469

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec14

Shane: these items are corrected.

Subtopic: Issue 584

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec15

Steven: same as 478, modify the reference from 1.1 to MOD

Subtopic: Issue 6288

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec16

Shane: the submitter is correct that somehow XMLNAMES became informatively referenced. Fixed.

Subtopic: Issue 6933

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec17

Shane: think all assertions are now marked as such.

Subtopic: Issue 582

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec18

Shane: 1.0's IMPLIED base @href does not make sense.

Steven: does the submitters use of frame references work in browsers?
... comment needs to be passed on to next version of XHTMLMOD, we cannot change it in 1.1.
... He is right, but one could use href="" and achieve the same effect.

Shane: @target is not in 1.1 right?
... the 2007 1.1 included @target, but was removed before PER

Steven: but at last moment it was added to basic. At the PER transition call, we were asked to add it into 1.1 to make sure basic remains a proper subset. On the basis of that argumentation, we could add @target.

Shane: confirming that @target is in the 2007 version of the 1.1 DTD

Steven: was wrong about @target and basic, it was inputmode that was discussed

Shane: which is also not in the PER

Steven: what do we do with target?

MoZ: think its not the aim of a new edition to change, unless DTD is not in harmony with prose.

Steven: while we agree with this change, the current edition is not about making changes to the language, this issue will get marked as an issue for a future version
... second issue in 582

Shane: form a reply

Subtopic: Issue 6909

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec19

Shane: already fixed.

Subtopic: Issue 650

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec20

Shane: already discussed in the context of 1.0

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec8

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-xhtml-minutes.html#item22

Steven: issue is on the wrong spec; to be moved to XHTMLMOD

Subtopic: Issue 651

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml11-issues-20090525.html#ssec21

Editorial fix with no objections.

Next steps

Steven: done with 1.0 and 1.1. Are there any issues on basic and print?

Shane: none on print.

Steven: basic spec says to send comments to www-html-editor. One comment:

<Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0002.html

Shane: fixed those typos.

Steven: will go through Bjoerns email for any additional issues.
... modulo Bjoerns latest comments, we think that we have dealt with all issues

<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to produce updated PER drafts and disposition of comments documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Produce updated PER drafts and disposition of comments documents [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-06-17].

<Steven> Thanks for scribing Markus

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Shane to produce updated PER drafts and disposition of comments documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to ask Alessio to tell us if HTML DOM still requires @name on form and image [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
 
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