<colinb> colinb = Colin Batchelor, Royal Society of Chemistry

<matthias_samwald> you can find out your phone number by pressing "4 1 #"

<matthias_samwald> on your phone.

<scribe> scribenick: ericP

Web site changes

cdenney: main page, see project goals

-> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology Pharma Ontology Homepage

action items

<scribe> ACTION: David to look at legal aspects [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-hcls2-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Lynn to look at patient role [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-hcls2-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: all to review roles [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-hcls2-minutes.html#action03]

<Martin> Martin = Martin Romacker (Novartis Pharma AG, Switzerland)

-> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology/Roles Roles

cdenney: Cheminformaticians renamed because it had overlapped with bioinformatist

<eneumann> thinks roles are sometimes specific around a task, and other times are around a poeple-position and therefore too general

cdenney: any missing roles?

@@@1 seeks clarification on the physician role

@@@1: primary care physician responsible for patient while pharma physician is a clinical scientist in charge of drug dev

scribe: we call the latter "clinical team lead"
... patient care physicians would probably not be using this system

cdenney: but we would be interacting with them

@@@1: we have a "clinical affairs" role?

cdenney: going to the next step will help us frame this
... note deliverables and roadmap in the middle of http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology
... expecting to create 2 or 3 sketches of use cases, covering maybe 3 roles
... these can help us frame the role identifiers
... then expect to build out one use case
... scope still limited to around 3 roles

colin: application ontology rather than a referene ongoloty

cdenney: yes, intend to use lightweight [spanning] ontology

<eneumann> EricP, are we using zakim queues?

colinb: am i free to edit wiki?

cdenney: encouraged
... expecting to review these roles, then a couple weeks to review the questions underneath them

eneumann: i have the impression from the discussion that the roles are thorough
... but think it may be a harder task because of this architecture choice
... at pfizer, we interviewed folks looking for general questions
... then looked at the roles and stakeholders needed to answer these questions
... if you want to support the exchange between roles

ericP: inclined to delay the workflow issues until after the data ontology development

cdenney: has the workflow issue come up elsewhere?
... will take this to susie
... we based this approach on the parkinsonss use cases in hcls

<eneumann> Useful background concept: how to use ontologies to help bridge information associations where existing databases do not span...

cdenney: but it is not gospel that we have to follow this path

<scribe> ACTION: all to finalize roles in the use case we have addition of clinical team lead and potential clinical affairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-hcls2-minutes.html#action04]

@@@1: also compound development team lead

sandor_szalma: different from project manager who deals with tech affairs

<cdenney> Sandor

<cdenney> Szalma

sandor_szalma: bioinformatician role disappeared?

cdenney: yes. feedback was that their questions were already covered by other roles
... could keep role and use notation to indicate redundant questions

<Martin> I apologize, I have to leave (it's 7 pm in Basle).

cdenney: do we want to meet weekly? ('cause we have questions between the meetings)

<eneumann> I can attend for part of it

ericP: interested parties can subscribe to changes to pages.

RESOLUTION: use wiki change subscriptions, encouraging editors to include descriptive comments

HCLS f2f

expected attendee(s): elgar

<banderss> Bye

<colinb> bye

<matthias_samwald> bye!

<sszalma> by

<cdenney> suggestion from Lynn: communicate changes via group e-mails

<cdenney> can also subscribe to wiki updates

<cdenney> please put comments when changing wiki

<cdenney> Attendees: Boose Andersson, Elgar Pichler, Matthias Samwald, Lynn Schriml, Kohi Sonoda, Sandor Szalma, Eric N, Eric P, Colin Batchelor, Christi Denney, Martin. I also had Banderss?

<cdenney> Mibbit setup notes: Server link = irc.w3.org:6665; pick a nick name; Channels = #HCLS2

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Got date from IRC log name: 05 Mar 2009
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-hcls2-minutes.html
People with action items: all david lynn