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XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

04 Mar 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
ShaneM, Roland, Steven, Markus
Regrets
Gregory, Alessio, Tina, Mark
Chair
Roland
Scribe
ShaneM

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 04 March 2009

<scribe> Scribe: ShaneM

Action Item Review

Role and Access CR. Still on hold waiting for responses from PER transitions

PER requets are on Ralph'

s desk

Steven will send the transition requests for them now.

<Roland> close action-43

<trackbot> ACTION-43 Request PER for 4 specs using M12N closed

<Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jan/0122.html

close action-48

<trackbot> ACTION-48 Send a formal reply to message 122 closed

He was replied to by W3C management.

Action - 44. Steven has prepared a skeletal draft and gotten some comments.

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -

Steven wants to emphasize the authorability and extensibility. This is sort of the management overview.

Also accessibility, device independence, and internationalization. There is support for this and we should point that out. Authoring in XHTML2 makes it easier to make your content adaptable to the target device / environment.

close action-44

<trackbot> ACTION-44 Write a draft of a short document on the philosophy of xhtml 2 for use in web space. closed

Steven intends to get a reasonable tight version ready before the AC Meeting

Roland was looking at using XInclude in XHTML 2 - he cannot see why we would want to support it.

XInclude is a pre-processing step - it doesn't need to be part of the language...

<markus> http://www.daisy.org/zw/XInclude_Analysis

Markus - DAISY came to the same conclusion. However, you might need to permit xml:base in order to handle it.

Steven believes xml:base is in xhtml2 Common attribute collection already.

ShaneM thinks that it would have to be.

Plan what we are going to do at F2F regards XHTML 2

ShaneM thinks the spec is in good shape modulo the questions that have been posted. Most of which are small items.

<Steven> xml:base is in hypertext module http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml2-20090205/mod-hyperAttributes.html#col_Hypertext

ShaneM is concerned that the DOM tree will have expanded the href attribute.

Markus doesn't think that is specified by the DOM spec. Shane agrees, but thinks some clients might be updating the href attributes on the way in.

We can figure this out later. No big deal.

Roland asked if the list of questions in the agenda represents the complete set.

Markus points out that there are some problems with XForms integration.

He will send in a note about the issue.

Shane asks that we address the simpler issues earlier.

Roland thinks that we need to discuss philosophy first - so we have a framework in which to make decisions.

Do we need to structure the language so that it is implementable in current user agents? Not clear that we have agreement on what our target platform is.

Is familiarity important?

Roland suggests that we try to not rathole next week - time limit each discussion and stop discussion if we hit limit.

<Roland> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=03&day=10&hour=13&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283

Next meeting on Tuesday, 10 March at 1300 UTC. Also probably meet on Wednesday at normal time (9:45 US Eastern Time)

Summary of Action Items

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