XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

07 Jan 2009


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Roland, Steven, ShaneM, mgylling
Gregory, Alessio, Mark, Tina




<trackbot> Date: 07 January 2009

<scribe> Scribe: Steven


Steven: Director's decision draft is in front of me, I'll be sending that off; we just need a date for the CR draft

Shane: Who needs that date?
... How about Friday?
... 9th January

Steven: Thanks
... Please check that we are referencing the newest XML

Shane: Think I did that
... but note that the latest definition of XML changes the definition of Name token
... oh wait, we discussed this already

Markus: We decided to stay with 4th edition for backwards compatbility

Shane: Yes, we agreed this for M12N too
... it affects CURIEs as well
... because we use the definition of Name token
... to define prefixes
... We won't do it, and have a good reason
... I will point it to 4th edition (not 5th)

Steven: The RDFa test suite is probably good enough for CR period
... does it cover safe CURIEs?

Shane: Definitely

Roland: And WAI-ARIA

Steven: We don't have to test it, just point to implementations that support CURIES

Shane: 4 week CR period? To 6th Feb

Steven: Looks good
... we have the implementations, so we're safe

Roland: Do we need a test plan?

Steven: We should say which RDFa tests test which CURIE feature (in the implementation report)
... Do we really cover everything in the suite?

Shane: We'll need to check to be absolutely sure

<ShaneM> CR ready document is at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-curie-20090109


Roland: We resolved to request CR for role
... are we ready?

Steven: Didn't we have a reason not to do it at the same call as CURIE? Waiting for a reply from someone?

<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-role-lc2-doc-20081018.html

Steven: The DoC looks OK
... Oh I remember, it was for access, we were waiting for a response from I18N


<scribe> ACTION: Steven to follow up with I18N on access comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Follow up with I18N on access comments [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-01-14].

Roland: Back to role

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to request CR for role [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Request CR for role [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-01-14].

Third editions

Roland: 1.0 3e, 1.1 2e, Print
... delaying Basic?
... Is the example problem solved?

Steven: Yes I got agreement from Yam
... Basic is ready to go

Shane: It is RDFa that we will hold back on as we just went to rec

Steven: So 4 specs going to PER
... I think we should make that one request

Shane: Definitely
... PERs don't even need a transition call
... IIRC

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to request PER for 4 specs using M12N [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Request PER for 4 specs using M12N [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-01-14].


<Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open

Roland: 1, 2 continue
... 14 continues
... 17, we don't like the wording on positioning in the HTML5 spec

Steven: I'll pick that up

Roland: 20 - Steven

Steven: I'll check whether I got to it

Roland: 24 ongoing

<ShaneM> role CR draft is up at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-role-20090115

Roland: 25 - Shane

Shane: Nearly done

<ShaneM> access CR draft is up at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-access-20090115

Roland: 26 - Shane

Shane: I've spoken to Mark Baker, he's happy to help, and not sure what we want
... I need help to get this done
... it is to do with "Follow your nose"

Roland: We need a clearer statement of the problem

Steven: This was as a result of issue #674


Roland: Not a straightforward action this one

Shane: Although it mentions namespace, that is a red herring

<ShaneM> profile=xhtml-NAME

Steven: I wonder if we can short-circuit this
... xhtml+xml already has a profile parameter, already used by XHTML-MP
... so can't we just use it?
... needs research

Shane: I will summarise by email

Roland: Action 35

trackbot, close action-35

<trackbot> ACTION-35 - ask XForms about Access Module concerns closed

Roland: Action 36

Shane: Policy statement is done
... do we want it on the front page or linked?

Roland: Linked

Shane: In that case, where from. from Modularization?

<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/#xhtml-modularization

Roland: We'll put it inline where we talk about recommendations

trackbot, close action-40

<trackbot> ACTION-40 - notify HTC of change of verbiage to "DOM2 or later" in XML Events 2 closed

trackbot, close action-30

<trackbot> ACTION-30 - request CR Transition for Role Module closed

trackbot, close action-37

<trackbot> ACTION-37 - request transition to PER for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML Print closed

trackbot, close action-38

<trackbot> ACTION-38 - request transition for XHTML 1.0 PER (Third Edition) closed

Mime type document

Shane: Done, let's publish
... someone commented

Roland: Discuss next week?



Markus: Action 39?

Shane: I'm behind on that

Markus: How should we deal with issues?

Steven: On group list in first instance (public-xhtml2)

Shane: If you have direct questions about the schema contact me directly


Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Steven to follow up with I18N on access comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to request CR for role [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to request PER for 4 specs using M12N [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
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