W3C

Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

25 Nov 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
wilhelm, Dom, Kai, Dmitri
Regrets
Carmelo
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom

Contents


Widgets Testing

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to raise visibility on Kai's work on widgets to the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Raise visibility on Kai's work on widgets to the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] [on Dominique Hazaƫl-Massieux - due 2008-12-02].

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to follow up on widgets testing with Kai [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING]

Wilhelm: we're going to release our widget testing framework
... in about a week, after we are done cleaning up

Kai: fantastic!

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review Kai's work on widgets testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Dom's review on Kai's tests for widgets

Kai: I'm assuming I'll be able to move my tests to Opera's WTF framework

Wilhelm: yes, I think that should be possible ; the framework takes a config file as input and then does the right thing
... I'll first submit it to Kai, but the plan is to have the tool open-sourced in the end

Cookies test suite

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for cookies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]

Wilhelm: still working on it

Device Independent Testing Guidelines

<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to update the di guidelines based on the comments received so far [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [PENDING]

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to contribute to the di guidelines (an example?) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING]

Kai: I tried to come up with examples for each point
... but they are so similar, it is a bit difficult to know how to proceed

<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0010.html

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: hard to come up with canonical examples
... I've looked into Hixie's and Henry Sivonen's tests, and I'm trying to extract something from them

Wilhelm: maybe you can already send what you've extracted so far

Dom: feel free to send comments if you think the document needs improvements in terms of structure

Web Compatibility Test

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to investigate why IE Mobile fais the cookies test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Kai's report

Kai: still don't know how I got it to fail the first time
... it now passes in any case

<wilhelm> heisenbug

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to provide test cases showing actual usage of contenteditable and inputmode for IE Mobile testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> inputmode test

<dom_scribe> contenteditable test

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to verify IE mobile with new inputmode/contenteditable tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose a first "draft" of the white paper on WCTMB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [PENDING]

Kai: I'm not sure what to do any more
... I was thinking to do this as a blog format
... with findings going out a week at a time

Dom: I'm fine with a blog, as long as we can gather something up as a WG Note

Kai: let's start with the blog format, and compile it up at the end
... I can draft the first blog by the end of this week

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to send details on his idea for a local blog system to Dom [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

Agreement on test suites with OMA

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING]

Dom: contacted our OMA liaison; waiting to hear feedback from them

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING]

Wilhelm: I've started to look into this; I've found most of the relevant points, but am waiting to get the actual information to be extracted

Rechartering

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to suggest improved wording for the charter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Kai's comments

Kai: a bit concerned about 'adaption', hence my reaction; "suited" sounds fine :)

Dom: OK with the current charter then?

Kai: yeah, thanks for updating it

Wilhelm: I think the charter covers most things needed

<hendry> whoa, that was quick :)

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Kai to send details on his idea for a local blog system to Dom [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to verify IE mobile with new inputmode/contenteditable tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to contribute to the di guidelines (an example?) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to propose a first "draft" of the white paper on WCTMB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for cookies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to follow up on widgets testing with Kai [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to update the di guidelines based on the comments received so far [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to raise visibility on Kai's work on widgets to the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to review Kai's work on widgets testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to investigate why IE Mobile fais the cookies test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to suggest improved wording for the charter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to provide test cases showing actual usage of contenteditable and inputmode for IE Mobile testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
 
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