<trackbot> Date: 15 July 2008

<ChrisL> Hi folks

<aemmons> Hi Chris!

<ChrisL> I'm still sorting out a phone here (my regular phone line is out of order)

<scribe> Scribe: anthony

Test Fest

<aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/TestCoverage

<ed_> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/

<scribe> ACTION: anthony to Check the test report generation script to ensure data is not discarded when a revision number miss match occurs with a test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/15-svg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2098 - Check the test report generation script to ensure data is not discarded when a revision number miss match occurs with a test [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-07-22].

<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0029.html

[Discussion about organisation]

Two progressive rendering questions

CM: It's really just a couple of questions to clarify things for me
... I was reading through the section for the script thing
... question is a bit long
... so I don't mind if people reply to that offline

AE: I wouldn't mind some more time to go over that

DS: Same

CM: That's fine

<ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/errata/errata.xml#attribute-index

<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008AprJun/0154.html

Mistakes in the attribute index appendix (ISSUE-2005)

CM: So I noticed there a number of incorrect entries in that
... I thought it was automatically generated

CL: I think so

CM: A couple of things that were confused because of the scripts that generated it
... minor mistakes

CL: So I'd like a little bit of time to check this
... I suspect it's probably reasonable
... the reason I'm slightly hesitant is on font family I think it should have the value all
... and when I look at the proposed errata

CM: That's what's actually published

CL: So the ones on font face
... shouldn't they include the value all?

CM: I copied those out of the DTD

CL: I'd have to go over those before accepting them
... in general it looks good

<scribe> ACTION: Chris to review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/15-svg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2099 - Review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-07-22].

CL: I'll see if I can get that done by next Tuesday

<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0004.html

Testing animation of empty string values (ISSUE-2010)

CM: Test has a semicolon at the end of a value for animation
... some implementations accept it
... Bitflash is one of them

AE: Up until a few months ago we disallowed it
... but we got complaints
... that content was being generated with it like that

CL: Having a semicolon at the end of the list is fine if it is always required
... is there are final blank entry
... and does it matter

CM: I think this is an important thing to specify
... if there are going to be empty string
... so you can see I got varied results
... with empty string in the middle and at the end

CL: If it doesn't introduce an ambiguity I'd be fine with changing it
... but if it does we need to think about it more

ED: I'm wondering if it can escape string values
... or escape it somehow with like a backslash

CM: So somethings are escaping for specific attribute types
... rather than a general escaping mechanism
... so there is a similar problem in there
... if you have a URL with a semicolon
... would have to percent escape it
... one thing you could say if you want an empty string is that
... you have a "#" there
... because it's the same
... or say there are two semicolons at the end
... and the last one is an optional termination

AE: I'm happy with that
... have empty values
... with the last one ignored

<scribe> ACTION: Cameron to reword the animation values such that a final semicolon is ignored [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/15-svg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2100 - Reword the animation values such that a final semicolon is ignored [on Cameron McCormack - due 2008-07-22].

DS: Are we changing something we use or are we changing something in SMIL?

CM: We change what SMIL says but it will make us slightly divergent

AE: Aren't there places like that already?
... I think we already have the wording in there for SMIL
... [Reads out spec]
... So in there we can say this is our SVG specif rule

<ed_> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/animate.html#ValuesAttribute

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Found Date: 15 Jul 2008
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