W3C

Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

13 May 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Pontus, francois, rob, andrews, SeanP
Regrets
jo, MartinJ, Bryan, Murari, hgerlach
Chair
fd
Scribe
Andrew

Contents


Introducing Pontus

Pontus2: Part of devices team in Ericsson for last 2 years. Working in mobile internet for 8 years. Replacing Magnus.

XHR last call comment

<francois> last call comment

francois: HR is just one case. iFrame is another example.
... Explaining explicitly what is wanted (eg no-transform) is better than identifying origin of request.

<francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: don't go any further with the XHR topic.

+1

<francois> +1

<Pontus2> +1

RESOLUTION: don't go any further with the XHR topic.

Consistency in the behavior of the CT-proxy

francois: No guidelines about handling of sessions
... CT-proxies should be consistent within a session but how do we define a session?

Rob: Example - content is being transformed and then a style sheet says no-transform
... links may contain URLs pointing back to CT-proxy

francois: may be we don't need to make any recommendations in the guidelines.

<francois> ACTION: daoust to summarize the issue that may be raised by sessions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-755 - Summarize the issue that may be raised by sessions [on Fran├žois Daoust - due 2008-05-20].

Examination of URIs

<francois> Sean's point

francois: Reference discussions about URIs indicating mobile content e.g. mobile.site.com.
... some content providers use such URIs already.
... However, URIs should not necessarily relate to the content.
... Guidelines should not specify specific URI patterns.

Sean: Agree should just be a heuristic.
... until there is a better way.

<francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs in the list of heuristics in 4.4 (transformation of the response) and mention Sean's list (wap.*, m.*, ...) as examples

francois: We can not come up with a comprehensive list of URI patterns that would indicate a mobile aware site.

<SeanP> +1

francois: suggest that we just site this as ah heuristic and give examples

<francois> +1

<rob> +1

+1

<Pontus2> +1

<francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs in the list of heuristics in 4.4 (transformation of the response) and mention Sean's list (wap.*, m.*, ...) as examples

RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs in the list of heuristics in 4.4 (transformation of the response) and mention SeanP's list (wap.*, m.*, ...) as examples

<francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs as a bullet point in 4.1.2 (transformation of the request) to complete the list "the proxy SHOULD analyze whether it intends to offer transformation services by referring to [...]".

SeanP: Should say this in the request section.

francois: URI is one of the only indicators of mobile content at request time.

<francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs also in 4.1.2 (transformation of the request) to complete the list after "the proxy SHOULD analyze whether it intends to offer transformation services by referring to:".

<francois> +1

<SeanP> +1

+1

<rob> +1

RESOLUTION: Mention examination of URIs also in 4.1.2 (transformation of the request) to complete the list after "the proxy SHOULD analyze whether it intends to offer transformation services by referring to:".

francois: Aim is to publish guidelines at end June after face-to-face meeting.

SeanP: Dates for face-to-face?

francois: 16, 17, 18 June in SE France
... moving to "last call" indicates that we, the task force, think that we have solved all problems.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: daoust to summarize the issue that may be raised by sessions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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