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<trackbot-ng> Date: 30 January 2008
<scribe> scribe: pauld
need to review where we are, fresh pairs of eyes helps!
I want to make sure the WG page is more understandable
couldn't find a link to the detection service - it exisits?
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/
that page should point to the schematron, stylesheet the online and command line versions
yves: I'll work on fixing the online version
pauld: concerned how quickly we
can redeploy that when we change / add patterns
... goal for this week is to publish LC WDs of Basic and
Advanced!
... so we can stop cleaning this vendor toilet :)
procedurally, we don't need to answer our own last call comments because we're going for another LC!
we've processed all our LC issues, but there is one we haven't processed
yves: Adrian ran most of our tests, can we re-run
pauld: it's in CVS, but he's not available and has rebuilt his environment, so would have to reinstall WCF etc
george: can take a quick look
pauld: OK, I don't want to lose this meeting to re-running tests for Advanced, or low-priority Basic patterns
george: testing can always be done offline
pauld: want to review specs, and hunt for patterns in the wild
yves: we need a command line version
pauld: OK, so you guys work on
the detection service, make the online service link to our page
which will have source code, stylesheet, etc, etc
... we need to answer one LC comment - lc-haas-1 on making the
XPaths understandable
... need to incorporate Jon's examples:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xsd-databinding/2007Oct/0001.html
... want to hunt for more patterns 'in the wild' from our
collection
... no link to http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/collection/
from WG page!
... that page is missing this output: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/
... I'll work on making the report more credible, Jon will want
to help there too, no doubt
... we need to review
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/advanced/advanced.html#schemasummary
... am concerned that xs:date etc aren't "Advanced" we need to
remember why and give a non-normative one-line
explanation
... think it's OK for Basic to be N/A, but Advanced should
explain
george: for all of them?
pauld: just the types
... I'll do that work and the WG can review it
... it might be nice to rerun the tests, at least for the kits
we can
george: can run 12 or so
yves: will make sure we communicate the difference between not running a test because we didn't run it, and not running a test because the tool barfed
<gcowe> patterns detector source code can found in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/PatternsDetector.zip - this contains the .war file
pauld: is there a process for generating that - an ant file?
gcowe: that includes `
... an old stylesheet - can remove that
pauld: can we make an ant task to
generate that, command line and war together?
... OK to include a stylesheet if it's regenerated when we
change patterns.xml
george: built a command line version of the patterns detector
<gcowe> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/client/
<gcowe> contains java executables for detecting patterns in schema or WSDL and can be run on client machine
pauld: looks great, can we add a link to the detector page, and fix the service?
discussion of a version number for the stylesheet in the report.
pauld: sounds like a lot of work to add it, and of little value given each pattern reported is uniquely named and versioned
george: will add a link on the collection page
<Yves> ***** NoTargetNamespace [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** AnySimpleTypeElement [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** HexBinaryElement [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** HexBinaryAttribute [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** UnionSimpleDateString [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** PrecisionDecimal [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** SOAPEncodedArray [PENDING]
<Yves> ***** AttributeGroup [PENDING]
<Yves> pending... basic? advanced? removed?
we should review the status of patterns as a whole, tomorrow afternoon. Let's just work on coverage for now
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Jan/att-0003/process.jpg
<gcowe> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/ now contain information on running the client side executable jar to carry out detection of patterns in schema and WSDL
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