09:24:43 RRSAgent has joined #databinding 09:24:43 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-databinding-irc 09:24:45 RRSAgent, make logs public 09:24:45 Zakim has joined #databinding 09:24:47 Zakim, this will be DBWG 09:24:47 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot-ng 09:24:48 Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference 09:24:48 Date: 30 January 2008 09:25:27 Topic: Context Switching 09:25:47 scribe: pauld 09:25:50 chair: pauld 09:25:58 s/Teleconference/F2F/ 09:26:20 need to review where we are, fresh pairs of eyes helps! 09:27:03 I want to make sure the WG page is more understandable 09:27:28 couldn't find a link to the detection service - it exisits? 09:27:46 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/ 09:28:43 that page should point to the schematron, stylesheet the online and command line versions 09:28:56 yves: I'll work on fixing the online version 09:29:32 pauld: concerned how quickly we can redeploy that when we change / add patterns 09:30:04 pauld: goal for this week is to publish LC WDs of Basic and Advanced! 09:30:28 .. so we can stop cleaning this vendor toilet :) 09:32:21 procedurally, we don't need to answer our own last call comments because we're going for another LC! 09:33:37 we've processed all our LC issues, but there is one we haven't processed 09:33:52 yves: Adrian ran most of our tests, can we re-run 09:34:52 pauld: it's in CVS, but he's not available and has rebuilt his environment, so would have to reinstall WCF etc 09:35:06 george: can take a quick look 09:35:39 pauld; OK, I don't want to lose this meeting to re-running tests for Advanced, or low-priority Basic patterns 09:36:25 s/;/:/ 09:36:40 george: testing can always be done offline 09:37:02 pauld: want to review specs, and hunt for patterns in the wild 09:39:10 yves: we need a command line version 09:40:37 pauld: OK, so you guys work on the detection service, make the online service link to our page which will have source code, stylesheet, etc, etc 09:42:01 pauld: we need to answer one LC comment - lc-haas-1 on making the XPaths understandable 09:43:02 pauld: need to incorporate Jon's examples: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xsd-databinding/2007Oct/0001.html 09:46:44 pauld: want to hunt for more patterns 'in the wild' from our collection 09:46:57 .. no link to http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/collection/ from WG page! 09:47:34 .. that page is missing this output: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/ 09:48:24 .. I'll work on making the report more credible, Jon will want to help there too, no doubt 09:51:22 pauld: we need to review http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/advanced/advanced.html#schemasummary 09:52:09 .. am concerned that xs:date etc aren't "Advanced" we need to remember why and give a non-normative one-line explanation 09:54:14 .. think it's OK for Basic to be N/A, but Advanced should explain 09:54:28 george: for all of them? 09:54:34 pauld: just the types 09:55:00 pauld: I'll do that work and the WG can review it 09:57:57 pauld: it might be nice to rerun the tests, at least for the kits we can 09:58:07 george: can run 12 or so 09:59:38 yves : will make sure we communicate the difference between not running a test because we didn't run it, and not running a test because the tool barfed 10:01:30 patterns detector source code can found in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/PatternsDetector.zip - this contains the .war file 10:06:48 pauld: is there a process for generating that - an ant file? 10:08:16 gcowe: that includes ` 10:09:14 .. an old stylesheet - can remove that 10:10:12 pauld: can we make an ant task to generate that, command line and war together? 10:10:38 .. OK to include a stylesheet if it's regenerated when we change patterns.xml 12:08:30 pauld has joined #databinding 13:30:52 Zakim has left #databinding 14:16:43 Zakim has joined #databinding 15:18:06 gcowe has joined #databinding 15:18:10 Topic: ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema 15:18:26 george: built a command line version of the patterns detector 15:18:44 RRSAgent, generate minutes 15:18:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-databinding-minutes.html pauld 15:18:54 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:19:07 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/client/ 15:20:48 contains java executables for detecting patterns in schema or WSDL and can be run on client machine 15:36:17 pauld: looks great, can we add a link to the detector page, and fix the service? 15:36:52 discussion of a version number for the stylesheet in the report. 15:37:34 pauld: sounds like a lot of work to add it, and of little value given each pattern reported is uniquely named and versioned 15:37:50 george: will add a link on the collection page 15:47:40 ***** NoTargetNamespace [pending] 15:47:40 ***** AnySimpleTypeElement [pending] 15:47:40 ***** HexBinaryElement [pending] 15:47:40 ***** HexBinaryAttribute [pending] 15:47:40 ***** UnionSimpleDateString [pending] 15:47:41 ***** PrecisionDecimal [pending] 15:47:43 ***** SOAPEncodedArray [pending] 15:47:45 ***** AttributeGroup [pending] 15:47:57 pending... basic? advanced? removed? 15:58:37 we should review the status of patterns as a whole, tomorrow afternoon. Let's just work on coverage for now 16:24:29 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Jan/att-0003/process.jpg 16:29:49 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/ now contain information on running the client side executable jar to carry out detection of patterns in schema and WSDL 16:31:50 Zakim has left #databinding 16:35:11 Zakim has joined #databinding 18:04:51 pauld has joined #databinding 18:41:56 pauld has joined #databinding 18:56:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-databinding-minutes.html Yves 19:05:09 Zakim has left #databinding