<eneumann> .invite zakim

i am using skype

<chimezie> oh well

eric: we are still analyzing the results of the questionaire.
... however, some kex people responsible for that are not on the call at the moment.
... the notes should go to the public domain after the face to face.

<jar286> could someone please send a URI to the draft agenda to the chat?

chimezie: our group is working on notes at the moment (drug safety etc.)

correction -- eric said that.

<chimezie> Agenda

eric: the notes should reflect what has been done on the wiki pages.
... biordf should probably have some notes on the URI discussion.

jonathan: i am feeling good about the document right now. i have a 3 page outline.
... i am iterating on that with a number of people.
... this topic is not specific to biordf.
... before the end of the year we should get some kind of editors draft.

eric: i am optimistic that we could make a formal note out of this.
... the editors draft can be discussed at the face to face.

jonathan: the more significant the endorsement, the more impact it will have.

eric: there are also many other topics in biordf.
... i recommend that we write a document of our experiences, possibly as a note.

<eneumann> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/F2F/2007/11/Agenda

<jar286> looks like there's 1 hour scheduled for the uri note

eric: i am still discussing with tony and eric about the agenda of the face to face.
... the 'next steps' agenda item is important.
... i would prefer having them early on friday.
... can the COI discussion be pushed to friday?
... two representatives from pharmaceutical companies can only come on one of the days.
... can we break up the COI discussion two both days?

ericp: we need vipul to make such decisions.
... we looked at numbers of the survey. susie and alan also looked at them.
... i proposed three task forces (discussed with ivan).
... life sciences, health care, translational medicine.
... we discussed about patent policy.
... alan suggested forming a visualisation working group.

alan: i also want to look at the comments that were submitted.
... how do we organize things so that there is a clear direction.

<jar286> i'm going to bow out now - tra

alan: eric suggested that each group should focus on getting data into the database.
... however, this leaves out visualisation and decision support.
... i support the idea of building an interest group instead of a working group.
... because of patent barriers etc.
... can more targeted, narrower working groups 'spin of' the main working groups?

<chimezie> Cleveland Clinic is concerned about a lack of a mandate and considers rec track work very important for consensus

alan: e.g. about encoding CDISC in RDF.

<chimezie> we consider the problem more of an issue of how you structure the charter than a lack of participation of major players

<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to answer chime

ericp: joining a working group is more complicated for companies.

alan: i would start an ontology working group as early as possible. however, we do not have very much participation from experienced people.
... consensus/community building around vocabularies/ontologies is important.
... to get consensus, we would need to get some experience through talking with people from the industry.

eric: i would like to see more connections to other groups (like CDISC)

alan: what of the survey data will be released to the public?

eric: this is up to you and susie.

ericp: the comments should not be made public.

susie: maybe we could write a tutorial and turn that into a note.
... the proposal for the tutorial needs to be submitted by the end of november

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