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Wilhelm introduced himself
and explained his work at Opera
He does have some experience on Mobile device testing and hope to contribute to group
Wilhelm will working as a replacement for Till.
Till will be leaving the Group.
Any question from Wilhelm for the Group
None at this time. He been reading the mail logs
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING]
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing Till's suggestions for the DOM Test Suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
<dom> Automation of DOM Test suite
Carmelo asked as to when the results are recorded when running the suite
Results are recorded as the tests are run.
Dom: Automation works on Firefox but not on Opera just yet.
Till will have a look into that.
<scribe> ACTION: Till to do extra reseach on autmatic execution using Opera [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
ok waiting on DOM
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite into the harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [PENDING]
<dom> ACTION: Till to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on a mobile device [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
Everything seems to have run fine using the Mobile device
Till: made a few comments regarding the test suite itself.
<scribe> ACTION: Till to draft a first message to regarding SVG test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: carmelo: To contact SVG Working group with Till's comments. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on a mobile device [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
Dom: Is Opera using teh SVG suite?
Till: Yes very much so
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to contact the SVG Working Group to let them know about the test harness including SVG Tiny [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]
Till: To post a message regarding Opera's usage of SVG Tiny suite.
<dom> ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING]
<dom> ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
Do we need to do anything specific regarding to testfest (an event from OMA)
Allen: Asked about moving harness to a more prominent place in W3C Site
<dom> ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be linked [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
What about using main page advertised for the harness
Dom: This is usually done for public documents.
Maybe we are not ready for that kind of attention just yet
Allen: Not a strong opinion either way just yet.
<dom> ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want more visibility of their test suites through the harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
<dom> ACTION: Dom to send responses to respondents of survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to update the test submissions document based on Dom's comments and put on the W3C site [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<dom> [DRAFT] Guidelines for the Mobile Web Test Suites Group (MWTS) Tests Submissions
Carmelo: based on a document for XML Query
... [summarizes content of the document]
... positive test: test with well-formed correct content
... negative test: test with content that should trigger an error of sort
... behavioral test: test that highlights a specific behavior of a browser
Dom: the point on not using company names on so on should probably apply to all the content, not only function names
<dom> MWBP Tests cases on encoding
<dom> more test cases
dom: I don't think we need the sections on collation; the point on URIs should be to use relative URIs rather than absolute URIs
... can remove also the section on XML and namespaces, "Results and Serialization", as well as numerical boundaries
Dmitri: will send comments by email on positive vs negative tests; would be good to have examples
Carmeo: will publish an updated version of the document later today
dom: I'll be looking into creating the web interface for submitting testcases