W3C

Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group Teleconf

13 Mar 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Allen, dom, Carmelo, Dmitri, Jenice (NIST)
Regrets
Till
Chair
Dom
Scribe
Allen

Contents


Mobile Web Test Suites survey and re-packaging

<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework is used in XML Query test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

<dom> Carmelo's framework used in XML Query test suite

<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework is used in XML Query test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Allen to explore the possibility to have a wrapper for the test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]

<dom> Allen's notes on test harness

<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Dom to work on prototype of test navigation/results recording based on Allen's proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

<dom> Dom's message about prototype harness

Dom sent the prototype harness last week

Got some feedback from Allen and Carmelo

The harness is a simple PHP script.

Added three button at the end of the page

Applied to CSS mobile test suite

Harness may interfere with the test.

Carmelo: how the harness find the test?

Dom: list of test is hard coded in the script
... list of test should be managed by web server in future
... results table not very readable

<dom> Results table for CSS MP

Dom: hard to see results table on mobile phone
... would be good to have a link to the results table at the end of test execution

<dom> Allen's comments on harness

dom: harness will get user agent from header
... results table gather results of all test runs from different agents
... no notion of single test run
... will have the way to filter result
... aggregate results are also interesting

Carmelo: results table will become large. Will be good to filter out results from other test runs.

will be good to have a notion of test session

<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

should have the ability to easily add/remove tests

dom: Harness already reads test from URI
... difficult to input annotation on the cell phone.
... will be good to go through the test suite on the desktop browser at the same time

need random access to the tests

dom: not difficult to do

Dmitri: what about the progress bar

dom: not difficult to do

Carmelo: is it possible to run only a few tests?

dom: possible with the notion of session

<dom> Carmelo's comments on test harness

dom: anybody to help with harness development in PHP?

Carmelo: may help with meta data. not familiar with PHP.

dom: if interested, let me know. need to set up access.

<dom> ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for carmelo to access the test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

<dom> ACTION: Dom to send test harness code to mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

dmitri: Can dom send the scripts?

dom: will do.

<Carmelo> Carmelo ---- Remember to put Harness on agenda for next week.

<dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to try and get in touch with user agent developers (OpenWave and Nokia) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

looking for feedback from user agent developer

Nothing new at this time

<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to look into transforming the XML into javascript files for making them easier to run on mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

<dom> ACTION: Till to get feedback from his Opera colleagues on making the Javascript more usable on mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]

<dom> DOM Test Suite made mobile friendly

dom: DOM test suite is not compatible with the harness.
... some work needed to make it friendly to the harness.
... need some feedback from Till

CSS test suite

<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to take a closer look at CSS for coverage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

<dom> Carmelo's analysis of CSS MP test suite coverage

<dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to ask for feedback on the mailing list about WCSS vs CSS MP Test Suite? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12]

dom: chair of CSS working group sent offer of collaboration.

<dom> Response from Bert Bos on collaborating on CSS MP Test Suite

dom: they are interested to get feedback, suggestion for problems in the test suite.
... but not enough resources to work on them
... encourage us to put more effort on it

<dom> ACTION: Dom to get back to Bert on CSS MP collaboration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

Dom: Discussion with Bert will help us determine which test suite we should focus on.
... Open testing framework for the Mobile Web survey is still running.

<dom> Results of survey

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Dom to get back to Bert on CSS MP collaboration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for carmelo to access the test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to send test harness code to mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Till to get feedback from his Opera colleagues on making the Javascript more usable on mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to ask for feedback on the mailing list about WCSS vs CSS MP Test Suite? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to try and get in touch with user agent developers (OpenWave and Nokia) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Allen to explore the possibility to have a wrapper for the test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to look into transforming the XML into javascript files for making them easier to run on mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework is used in XML Query test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to take a closer look at CSS for coverage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to work on prototype of test navigation/results recording based on Allen's proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
 
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