See also: IRC log
<yamx> Which tel number will we use?
lol
<yamx> The same as the past weeks?
<Steven> Scribe: Shane
<Steven> ACTION: Steven to check IE form for Shane [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action01]
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-html-minutes.html#action01]
<Steven> -- Done
Shane and Steven had a meeting with ChrisL and IanJ. Working through some issues.
<scribe> ACTION: Remember to ensure you are a member of the XHTML 2 working group by contacting your AC rep. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action02]
AC representatives have the appropriate form already.
Remember that you should only send mail to the public-xhtml2 mailing list. The old working group mailing list is deprecated.
This mailing list is viewable by the public, but only working group members can join the mailing list.
<scribe> ACTION: starting next week change IRC channels to #xhtml. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to send a message about the new logistics. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action04]
A live drafts page will be available at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts
Should @href be indicated as being "clickable" or "actuatable" in the module specification?
This was discussed at the RDFa meeting this week.
Steven believes that we should NOT require this in the context of XHTML 1.1 becuase it just won't happen.
Shane thinks that @href means "link youcan follow" and if we make it global, it needs to mean that everywhere.
Mark suggests that the RDFa spec doesn't need to say anything about the clickability. And if we need to specify that, we could do it in a separate document.
Rich wants to know what semantics RDFa adds to href?
Mark indicated that it has some meaning when interpreted by an RDFa processor. In that context @href means the object of a triple. It has no other meaning in "RDFa"
Mark points out that rel="stylesheet" or rel="alternate stylesheet" has some semantics too.... but that needs to be defined elsewhere. It has nothing to do with RDFa
RESOLUTION: remove the clickability from @href in RDFa
Mark indicated that "rarification" is going to go away from RDFa. Shane asked what we should change specifically?
<Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0070
<Steven> RDFa: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070317/
<Steven> XHTML2: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-metaAttributes.html#sec_24.2.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about atribute inheritance rules. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action05]
RESOLUTION: Stipulate that @rel="profile" is equivalent to @profile.
Mark thinks that @profile needs to be included in this specification.
Shane says it is in M12N already; all we need to do is reference it.
Mark thinks RDFa needs class around. Shane thinks that class comes from M12N.
Steven points out that the RDFa modules document can easily require the presence of the xhtml:class attribute
Steven is concerned about using class because class has not been traditionally a QName.... Steven things that @role is a better vehicle becuase it is a QName already
Mark has an idea that we could overlaod class to do lots of things, possibly even removing the @property attribute
RESOLUTION: ensure that the class attribute is required by RDFa. Note that this means xhtml:id and xhtml:title are required as well. The Core attributes.
Mark thinks that a resulting markup language needs to incorporate @role via the Role Attribute Module.
Steven thinks we could require @role via the RDFa module. Mark thinks that there is no reason unless role maps to rdf:type
Rich feels role should be equivalent to an rdf:type
scribe: arcane discussion about role vs type ...
<scribe> ACTION: Mark to write up stuff about role as predicate. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Shane to include the role module into the example xhtml+rdfa driver [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action07]
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