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14:00:09 rrsagent,make log world
14:00:16 zakim, this will be html
14:00:16 ok, Steven, I see HTML_WG()10:00AM already started
14:00:21 +??P12
14:00:24 zakim, who is here?
14:00:24 On the phone I see [IBM], ??P12
14:00:25 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, ShaneM, Steven
14:00:30 zakim, dial steven-617
14:00:30 ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:00:32 +Steven
14:01:06 zakim, mute rich
14:01:06 sorry, Steven, I do not know which phone connection belongs to rich
14:01:14 zakim, [ibm is Rich
14:01:14 +Rich; got it
14:01:19 zakim, mute rich
14:01:19 Rich should now be muted
14:01:27 zakim, ack rich
14:01:27 unmuting Rich
14:01:28 I see no one on the speaker queue
14:02:02 Meeting: XHTML2 WG Teleconference
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14:03:06 Which tel number will we use?
14:03:20 zakim, #html
14:03:20 I don't understand '#html', ShaneM
14:03:24 lol
14:03:32 The same as the past weeks?
14:04:07 Regrets: Melinda, Alessio
14:05:00 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Apr/0000
14:05:06 Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Apr/0000
14:05:15 Chair: Steven
14:05:23 Scribe: Shane
14:05:51 + +44.442.087.61.aaaa
14:05:54 ACTION: Steven to check IE form for Shane [recorded in
14:05:54 http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-html-minutes.html#action01]
14:05:57 -- Done
14:05:59 +??P24
14:06:21 zakim, P24 is yam
14:06:21 sorry, ShaneM, I do not recognize a party named 'P24'
14:06:31 zakim, ??P24 is yam
14:06:31 +yam; got it
14:06:53 Topic: Rechartering
14:07:09 Shane and Steven had a meeting with ChrisL and IanJ. Working through some issues.
14:07:33 ACTION: Remember to ensure you are a member of the XHTML 2 working group by contacting your AC rep.
14:07:56 AC representatives have the appropriate form already.
14:08:56 Remember that you should only send mail to the public-xhtml2 mailing list. The old working group mailing list is deprecated.
14:10:28 This mailing list is viewable by the public, but only working group members can join the mailing list.
14:10:39 ACTION: starting next week change IRC channels to #xhtml.
14:10:49 ACTION: Steven to send a message about the new logistics.
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14:11:57 A live drafts page will be available at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts
14:12:11 TOPIC: RDFa and Shane's Questions
14:14:07 Should @href be indicated as being "clickable" or "actuatable" in the module specification?
14:14:38 This was discussed at the RDFa meeting this week.
14:14:56 Steven believes that we should NOT require this in the context of XHTML 1.1 becuase it just won't happen.
14:16:58 Shane thinks that @href means "link youcan follow" and if we make it global, it needs to mean that everywhere.
14:18:21 Mark suggests that the RDFa spec doesn't need to say anything about the clickability. And if we need to specify that, we could do it in a separate document.
14:18:39 Rich wants to know what semantics RDFa adds to href?
14:19:05 Mark indicated that it has some meaning when interpreted by an RDFa processor. In that context @href means the object of a triple. It has no other meaning in "RDFa"
14:21:34 Mark points out that rel="stylesheet" or rel="alternate stylesheet" has some semantics too.... but that needs to be defined elsewhere. It has nothing to do with RDFa
14:23:20 RESOLVED: remove the clickability from @href in RDFa
14:23:59 Mark indicated that "rarification" is going to go away from RDFa. Shane asked what we should change specifically?
14:24:41 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0070
14:25:20 RDFa: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070317/
14:28:44 XHTML2: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-metaAttributes.html#sec_24.2.
14:30:12 ACTION: Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about atribute inheritance rules.
14:31:26 Topic: @profile vs. rel=profile
14:33:07 RESOLVED: Stipulate that @rel="profile" is equivalent to @profile.
14:33:28 Mark thinks that @profile needs to be included in this specification.
14:33:40 Shane says it is in M12N already; all we need to do is reference it.
14:35:05 -Rich
14:35:26 +[IBM]
14:35:36 Zakim, [IBM is Rich
14:35:36 +Rich; got it
14:35:51 Topic: @class and RDFa
14:37:23 Mark thinks RDFa needs class around. Shane thinks that class comes from M12N.
14:37:47 Steven points out that the RDFa modules document can easily require the presence of the xhtml:class attribute
14:39:04 Steven is concerned about using class because class has not been traditionally a QName.... Steven things that @role is a better vehicle becuase it is a QName already
14:42:59 Mark has an idea that we could overlaod class to do lots of things, possibly even removing the @property attribute
14:44:05 RESOLVED: ensure that the class attribute is required by RDFa. Note that this means xhtml:id and xhtml:title are required as well. The Core attributes.
14:47:34 Mark thinks that a resulting markup language needs to incorporate @role via the Role Attribute Module.
14:48:22 Steven thinks we could require @role via the RDFa module. Mark thinks that there is no reason unless role maps to rdf:type
14:51:15 Rich feels role should be equivalent to an rdf:type
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14:53:24 ...arcane discussion about role vs type ...
14:59:59 ACTION: Mark to write up stuff about role as predicate.
15:00:23 ACTION: Shane to include the role module into the example xhtml+rdfa driver
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15:05:50 rrsagent, make minutes
15:05:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html Steven_
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