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<alessio> hallo michael, hallo all
<alessio> hi raphael
<scribe> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 1st February 2007 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html
+1
ACCEPTED
Poll to have a telecon next week: 22th February 2007
Raphael: Who can make it - we have to push the work
Oscar can make
Tobias can make it
<Chris_Gaetan> Chris_Gaetan can make it
<alessio> I can, also
RESOLUTION: next telecon Mar 1
See our slides: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/talks/SWCG2007/
Telecon minutes (members only): http://www.w3.org/2007/02/09-swcg-minutes.html
Raphael reports on the SWCG meeting
Raphael: Future of group by the
two chairs
... Jeff proposed to go for WG directly
... Raphael thinks some further research is needed
... wait one more year
... SWCG ack the two versions
... third scenario: split XG efforts
... or IG
... will discuss further when Jeff is back
... still we have to find concensus
POLL for future of group
<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask for further plans
-> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#good-standing
<raphael> michael: concern about the lot of regrets we have
<raphael> ... uncontrolled growing
<raphael> ... perhaps split into 2 XGs
Michael adds we need to keep the momentum
<raphael> Oscar: wait for one year doing research or go for an XG ?
<raphael> michael: fear to lose people during this blank year
<raphael> Oscar: I think it is too early
<ocelma> I'm up to "Raphael option": wait one year more
Tobias: Support both Oscar and
Michael
... go for another XG
... taking EU research projects experienes into account
Stamatia: to early to go for WG
<raphael> Stamatia: i fully agree that it is too early
Melli: Need more feedback from other W3C WG
<alessio> yes, unfortunetly
<alessio> i have a proxy
Raphael: WG membership req about 20% time resources for this
<alessio> as usual on the afternoon :(
Gaetan_Chris: spliting up into XG
is no good option
... don't wait for another year
... does this XG close?
Raphael: Yes, this on will close on 1 May 2007
-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/deliverables/vocabularies.html
<raphael> not ready for review yet ...
<raphael> ... available hopefully by next Monday
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to maintain the Vocabularies page see: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to prepare a stable TR Voc page for review by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Zeljko to maintain the Resources/Tools page see: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
Zeljko: Restructured a lot and added stuff - all are invited to review
Raphael: Maybe change to tables
Zeljko: Should contact authors of tools to get status
<ocelma> Well, I can contact the Audio ones. No problem, I know them!
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-image-annotation/
Raphael: Pub request upcoming
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis update the structure of the deliverable and fill it in a XG report template, HTML document in our W3C space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
Raphael: Jeff and Vasilis will continue on the Wiki
Oscar: UC focuses on navigation
through music space via /facet
... query for song and get playlist
... work on RDF2ID3 converter
<ocelma> Music Ontology:
<ocelma> http://pingthesemanticweb.com/ontology/mo/
Oscar: Important ontology
<Zakim> raphael, you wanted to ask on formats used
Raphael: Know the work of Yves_Raimond
<ocelma> facet meets foafing the music:
<ocelma> http://slashfacet.semanticweb.org/music/facet
Raphael: What formats are supported?
Oscar: Extend basic ID3 with low-level feature concepts
Raphael: How about MPEG-7?
Oscar: Could be done with MPEG-72OWL schema converter
<scribe> ACTION: Oscar to update the UC and the interop deliverable till 7 Feb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Paola to provide a possible B2B scenario [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable till 7 Feb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]
Raphael: We have a clear idea
what will be in there + additional AC
... will be ready be next telecon
Raphael: They send status + I will see her next week
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to bug Susanne about status [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Susanne to look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together could be the solution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Susanne to look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together could be the solution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to contact Massimo to ask for next steps [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action12]
<scribe> ACTION: Sophia to find and send a documentation about an application toolbox where the user can select some algorithm to do feature extraction on music [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC till next AC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19] [CONTINUES]
<raphael> update: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Feb/0036.html
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-mpeg7/
ACTION Raphael to enable CVS account for Oscar
<TobiasBuerger> One comment: I also might have lost my edit-rights in the WIKI...
<scribe> ACTION: To invite Chrisa as invited expert [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action15]
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to enable CVS account for Oscar [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action16]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/WorkingGroup
<ocelma> that the content of the wiki: [wiki:TobiasBurger Tobias Bürger]
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to enable CVS account for Suzanne Little [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action17]
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael Stamatia to start work on MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to contact Chrisa to find out how she can contribute w.r.t. MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action22] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20]
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