W3C

ERT WG

10 May 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Johannes, Chris, CarlosI
Regrets
David, CarlosV
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
ChrisR

Contents


WCAG 2.0: "test case" and "test requirement" revival?

SAZ: model of WCAG2 under discussion with regard with EARL

CR: tests are 'sufficient' not 'required' so not sure how this will impact on EARL

SAZ: there is a heirarchy with guideline, SC and techniques/tests
... what about test case language needed in addition to EARL?

JK: relationships between test requirements and actual tests need to be described - EARL or something else

SAZ: at last FTF we decided that we wanted to keep test description language seperate from EARL
... should not make EARL specific to WCAG2, must keep open

JK: EARL reports just say pass/fail, not a relationship between tests and guidelines

<shadi> Resolution: relationships between tests and success criteria are not to be modelled in EARL but in a test case description language

WCAG 2.0: blanket statements

CI: key question is blanket statements - allow or not?
... conformance claim is a result of blanket statements

SAZ: advantage is more compact EARL reports, disadvantage is less precision

CI: blanket statements are more useful, just level of detail that you need.

JK: is need of compact reports requirement of EARL?

CI: More detail is useful for some people, not all

SAZ: EARL is really for machines, not people (exchanging info between tools)

(discussion of how EARL used by project managers, web services etc.)

CI: people who work in validation need to specify entire domains and subdomains

<JohannesK> I think the only thing you can really do is something like http://*example.org/*

<JohannesK> or http://www.example.org/foo*

<JohannesK> some CMSes create URLs like http://www.example.org/?id=938658

<shadi> ACTION: CarlosI look at RDF-CL vocabulary for describing groups of Web pages or parts of Web sites etc, and report back to ERT WG (hopefully with some examples) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action01]

<shadi> ACTION: Shadi ping DominiqueH about the QA Test Case Description Language [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action02]

Continuing WCAG 2.0 review

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/conformance

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/baseline/

<shadi> ACTION: everyone read these two documents about baselines (and also conformance) and send message to the ERT list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action03]

<shadi> next meeting: 17 May

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: CarlosI look at RDF-CL vocabulary for describing groups of Web pages or parts of Web sites etc, and report back to ERT WG (hopefully with some examples) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: everyone read these two documents about baselines (and also conformance) and send message to the ERT list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Shadi ping DominiqueH about the QA Test Case Description Language [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-er-minutes.html#action02]
 
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