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<trackbot> Date: 02 May 2006
<Ajith> is that ok - I just muted the mike
<Ajith> I'm in the office - today is a release day so a bit noisy :)
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim
<Yves> 61# to mute 60# to unmute
<JonC> scribe JonC
<pauld> scribe: Jonc
Minutes 18/04/06 approved
<scribe> scribe: JonC
WG is lagging behind schedule
pauld will be re-issuing document soon
Ajith: have been looking at Issue 12 again this week
Discussion of use of schematron for validation tool
pauld: ideal to have single schemtron schema that identifies patterns
Ajith to develop this over next week
pauld: ideal to have access to the tool from a web page
<Ajith> I've muted from myend
pauld: ISSUE-35 and 12 closely related
<pauld> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Apr/0017.html
<Ajith> is it breaking up ?
<pauld> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/databinding/issues/33
pauld: this was actually closed last week...
<pauld> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Apr/0048
gcowe: ran tests against 3 tools. All treated element list as unbounded rather than a finite maxOccurs for validation
pauld: this means that tools will
most likely handle such a pattern
... suggest pattern can be included in basic document.
JonC: need 'design considerations' text to explain that validation may not be as expected
RESOLUTION:
ISSUE-32 CLOSED
... ISSUE-32 CLOSED as per paulds proposal with design
consideration to reflect validation issue
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/issues/34/
gcowe: we use schema with request and response documents sharing the same namespace but with seperate definitions for a shared element
pauld: as paul biron indicated it is valid to have element defintions split across multiple schema
pauld but combining these in a schema processor will cause problems
pauld: schema component designator specification/technical note written to assist developers of processors, this may help understand why problems occur
<pauld> suggest the SCD spec may help here:
<pauld> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-ref/
<pauld> ACTION: pdowney to take ISSUE-32 to the WS-I Basic Profile WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Take ISSUE-32 to the WS-I Basic Profile WG [on Paul Downey - due 2006-05-09].
<inserted> Scribe: pauld
this issue goes above and beyond ISSUE-4 - collection of known databinding tools
jonc: within BT we have a set of
tools important to us - I added to that subset a list of
leading tools we see others using
... we need to ensure we're covering a good number of languages
and environments
george: interested to see list of tools linked into validation report
pauld: CR could help us here - I worry that we do all the work for all the different tools rather than getting individual vendors to buy into our framework
jonc: we need this indicative evidence when writing the spec
pauld: babbles .. what would be the cirteria for NOT including a tool in this list?
jonc: wants a representitive
list, 6 Java tools wouldn't be very useful
... enumerating some kits may flush out others, but with people
we have, 6 or so is all we're going to achieve
... a leading commercial and Open Source tools
pauld: suggest building a list of
all known tools, but use the report to reflect
... tools we're
... using
thanks for scribing, jon!
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