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<antoine> Scribe: Michael
<antoine> Scribenick: michaelp
<bernard> boston number does not seem to work
<stu> can someone kindly point me to the link for the call info?
<antoine> +1-617-761-6200
<antoine> Call code: 55394#
<stu> thanks
<jodi> http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/alcts/confevents/upcoming/ala/ac10/linked.cfm
<antoine> Previous: 2010-06-17 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/17-lld-minutes.html
Antoine: Comments on the minutes of previous telecon?
RESOLUTION: Accept minutes of previous week
<bernard> ok
Antoine: In the future, minutes
should first be send to participants before going public.
... to get accurate attendance record.
<jodi> I linked the intros I could find at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ParticipantIntroductions
<scribe> ACTION: All group members should please post an introduction to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/10-lld-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
Jodi: Introductions are now collected on a wiki page.
-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ParticipantIntroductions
Antoine: Availability for F2F
meeting in Pittsburgh
... we got sufficient feedback; many people can make the
meeting.
<scribe> ACTION: ALL: group members please indicate your availability for the proposed F2F meeting in a Doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/gaipzmfc7xp9f4zq [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/10-lld-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F
Antoine: We can hold 2 day
meeting after DC-2010 conference.
... in the venue of the conference; October 23-24
<Zakim> emma, you wanted to ask about time schedule
Antoine:We expect ca. 19 attendees
emma:Could we end early on Sunday so people can make flights?
Antoine: We don't have to use up all the time. Probably we can do it in 1 or 1.5 days.
<stu> suggest 1.5 days to accommodate European travel and the desireability of an evening social to promote group cohesion
Michael:1+
Antoine: We can move the most important issues to the first day.
Antoine: The agenda shows definitive telecon schedule.
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0101.html
Antoine: Twitter hashtag
discussion on mailing list
... 2 proposals: #lldata vs. #lldxg
<stu> lldata
<matolat> lldata
<jneubert> lldata
<marcia> lldata
<bernard> lldata
Antoine: There seems to be preference for lldata.
<bernard> less cryptic :)
RESOLUTION: #lldata hashtag to be used on Twitter
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0107.html
Emmanuelle: We should be more
specific about the goals of use cases
... Provenance XG goals were more generic, so their UCs are as well.
Antoine: We need to get concrete cases to identify the technology issues
Antoine: but also abstract one to show community benefits of future applications of LD technology
Emmanuelle: This should be identified in the templates.
<jneubert> +1
Stu: What are we trying to do?
What actions should be taken as results of our efforts?
... Are we really trying to identify technology issues with
concrete UCs?
... Inventory of whats going on with LD in library
community?
... Suggesting future benefits is often not convincing.
Suggesting implementation strategies might be.
Antoine: That is exactly the idea behind the UC idea.
<antoine> michaelp: the concrete and the abstract are not so far apart
<antoine> ... we are trying to align LD practices with library practices
<marcia> contextualize LD principles and align them with library practices
<antoine> michaelp: both could be accomodated here
<GordonD> I agree with Michael
<AlexanderH> me too
<emma> +1 with Michael
<marcia> the 'topics' identified by the group can also be aligned with the UC data collected
Antoine: We can make the template flexible enough through discussion on mailing list.
Stu: What are the deliverables
that would others prepare to take action
... around these data issues?
... Report could identify the goal to make libraries more
permanent on the web and then name strategies how this can be
accomplished.
Antoine: Adressed by our technology deliverable.
Stu: Sounds good.
<GordonD> There are some big and general practical issues in libraryland that ld could resolve e.g. shared cataloguing; federated searching; user-assisted cataloguing - each might be an "abstract" uc
Emma: We must choose UCs that
advertise the use of linked data.
... Provenance XG curated UCs into scenarios
Antoine: In terms of commonality?
Emma: Yes, to consolidate and extract common issues.
Antoine: Are there volunteers to come up with a new template?
Stu: I would be happy to help.
<Zakim> emma, you wanted to comment on use case curation
Stu: I take the lead on this to understand UC approach better.
Alexander: It would be useful to see examples.
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0116.html
<antoine> for example UCs
Michael: It would be useful to look at Provenance XG wiki for examples.
<scribe> ACTION: Stu takes the lead on understanding UC approach better (with help of Emmanuelle Jodi Bernard and Jeff) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action05]
<bernard> count me in also
<AlexanderH> i'm in too
<jeff_> I'm in
<dlukose> The W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group previously prepared a set of questionnaire. will this be someting that may be usefule in our initiative?
<jodi> post about LIBRIS Swedish Union Catalog, regarding enrichment: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.libraries.ngc4lib/4617
<jodi> here was the VIAF link in that email: http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2009/09/viaf-as-linked-data.html
<scribe> ACTION: Alexander to populate the template for VIAF UC http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2009/09/viaf-as-linked-data.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action06]
<jodi> sure :)
<dlukose> great...
<jeff_> I can help with VIAF UC
<AlexanderH> great
Antoine: I have started an
informal poll for volunteers on the wiki. http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCases#Poll_for_volunteers
... either as contributor of UCs or as curator of UCs
contributed by others.
... The choice between the approaches will be guided by how
many people sign up for each.
<antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics
<scribe> ACTION: ALL: Edit the topics for our work at the wiki: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
Antoine: Anybody who wants to curate the topics list?
Stu: Very important, very
difficult.
... What sort of curation do you expect?
<jneubert> +q to ask about the difference between "Describing library and museum authorities as Linked Data" and "Describing library and museum KOS Resources as Linked Data"
Antoine: I like us to be sure of general categories of topics/issues.
Stu: First pass: Make categories
abstract and coherent?
... I think we should ask Karen.
<marcia> +1
<matolat> +1 asking Karen
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine to ask Karen Coyle to start curating topics list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action08]
<Zakim> jneubert, you wanted to ask about the difference between "Describing library and museum authorities as Linked Data" and "Describing library and museum KOS Resources as Linked Data"
<marcia> agree
Joachim: Difference between "authorities" and "KOS resources"
<marcia> overlapping
Joachim: name authority files mentioned in both topics
<marcia> but authorities mustly were referred to name -related
<marcia> not concept schemes
Antoine: Lead by Karen
Antoine: Assessment of technology
pieces and vocabularies is on the list of deliverables.
... I hope, after today's discussion about use cases, we now more on the same page with respect to this
document.
Antoine: Community building and
outreach could be dormant for the moment.
... Events that members attending or presenting at
... My proposal is to create a section on the wiki for these
events.
<marcia> Linked Library Data Un-Meeting @ ALA Annual Friday, June 25, 2010, 9am-12pm Hyatt Regency Washington on Capitol Hill, Regency A room
<jodi> +1 to events section
<marcia> Karan's
<marcia> +1 mp's event section on the wiki
Antoine: Groups life and processes: please send feedback to the group about topics you would like us to focus on.
[adjourned]
<bernard> bye
<jodi> thanks! bye!
<fumi> bye
<jneubert> bye
<matolat> bye