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WCAG Techniques Task Force Weekly Telecon

31 Aug 2005

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Don_Evans, Tim_Boland, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Chris_Ridpath, Ben_Caldwell, Wendy, Rob_Haverty, Lisa_Seeman, Matt_May
Regrets
Becky_Gibson, John_Slatin
Chair
Michael_Cooper
Scribe
Tim

Contents


 

 

Complete the prioritization of techniques harvesting

<ben> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/06/30-tech-harvest.html

<ben> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/06/30-tech-harvest-by-tech.html

<Michael> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0713.html

<Michael> scribe: Tim

mc: prioritize high medium low
... General first take in order

What is a good alt. For functional non-text content simple ex calculator

this one is high priority

What captions are and audio description are how to provide them

high priority

Need to provide information about caption formats that can be used

high priority

Include discussion of open captioned format alongside non-captioned

high priority

Describe audio descriptions and how to create them

marked as duplicate

Techniques for switching audio tracks

low priority

ADI guidelines for AD - http://adinternational.org/adiguidelines.HTML

marked as resource

Time shifting

medium priority

Streaming captions: http://www.captioncolorado.com/products/internet.HTML

high priority

Captions being provided in a separate window

medium priority

Could also talk about open captions

high priority, but a duplicate

Providing sign language video e.g., vcom 3d http://www.vcom3d.com/

medium for this one

Get rnid to provide techniques

high

Techniques for where to position

medium or low?

mc: skip next two just resources

John Slatin's performance where the audio description was scripted but done "live"

medium

two resources mentioned previously are high priority

Radio describes - that's why lots of people listen to the radio and watch at the same time

medium

Relationship between caption/audio description and multimedia

medium priority

mc: previous tech should be mapped to 1.2L3SC3

Asterisk near required field instead of just making it red

high priority

Color for headings

low priority

mc: ACTION ls send proposal to list about missing SC around visual pres of structure

Encoding color so that it can be programmatically determined: have to specify it a certain way so that ats can pick it up

medium but technology-specific

Indicating correct and incorrect

high priority

Choosing technologies whose players expose text attributes to AT

kill

Sequences between delivery units

medium

(only general)

high priority

(general techniques)

high priority

Provide links to tools to evaluate

medium

Strategy for measuring

high priority

Keyboard access to controls used in mapping programs

marked as example for Guide

Show time remaining

low priority

Creating a time out with a way to turn it off

high priority

Pausing multimedia

medium or low

Design content without requiring timing

high priority

Address online testing

high priority

Turning things off

medium and technology-specific

How to provide a good warning and using entry pages (issues around controlling path users use to get to a page)

mc: this one plus next six are marked as high priority

Linking to related content

high priority

mc: next three are all high priority

Hide repeated content

low priority

Writing a good title

high priority

Titles being unique?

low priority

Breadcrumb navigation

medium priority

Navbars showing location (new technique)

high priority

Using icons and color to differentiate sections of a site

medium

Negative technique around breaking the back button?

low priority but good advice

Using different colors on visited vs. Unvisited links

low priority but good advice

Validation of credit card formats

example for guide but new technique needed validating form fields which would be high

Writing understandable 401 or 404 pages

medium

Provide a guess when desired page is not found "smart 404"

medium

Google "did you mean" example

medium

Provide a list of words that are similar

medium

Type 3 letters and provide a list of choices that begin with those letters

medium

Use soundex codes

medium

Google suggest? Http://www.google.com/webhp?Complete=1&hl=en

medium

Show similar search results/matches

also medium

In page link from error message to field with the error

high priority

A featured link in amazon?

kill

Query enhancements

medium

Dividing processes into steps and allowing forward and backward nav.

high priority

Return a new form with only the incorrect fields available

medium

Programmatically provide supplemental information - tooltips with additional info or help

mc: should be mapped to 2.5L3SC1

high priority

Confirmation window opens to show user action has completed

high priority

Provide spell checking

medium

Help bubbles

medium

change medium to high

Tooltips using title

marked as medium and awaiting proposal from Lisa

Do not use same words or letter combinations to begin each item of the list

medium but should map to Guideline 3.1

Providing help link on every page

high priority but should map to Guideline 3.1

(annoying) assistant in the corner of the page

low priority

How to use templates - put language in just once in the template. This could also be used in many other areas

high priority but should map to Guideline 3.1

Provide definitions via bubble help

high priority

Provide hyperlinks to relevant online dictionaries

medium

Internal linking

high priority

Expanded form presented first time it is used and acronym is presented in parends after - then use acronym in subsequent references

high priority

Provide search engine to look up

low priority

How to mark up section titles

high priority

How to write descriptive titles

high priority

Recommendations on how to provide the alternatives

high priority

Front load the document - make first paragraph the summary

medium

Make sure spoken version of text content is not started automatically in the background or only at the user's request

high priority in "seealso" sense

General tech about introducing subitems to clarify allowed

high priority

Change of context - a change of user agent, viewport, user interface controls, or focus; or complete change of content.

high priority

This is more about generating the page rather than fixing later. Perhaps general technique "just do it..."

high priority for the Guide

Test - if a graphic is associated with different uris on different pages, flag them and determine if differences make sense. If not, make consistent.

kill as tech but useful as test

No automatic refreshes, at all.

high priority

Navigating around page, shouldn't cause change of context (e.g., pop-ups). However, this meant to mean "only by user request."

high priority

Changes of user agent

also high priority

Change in user interface control?

high priority

Links to alternatives (concern about these and cyberghetto)

high priority

Keyboard handling

high priority

Not trapping keyboard

high priority

"hit x to return to previous page" covered by "must be able to use w/keyboard"

marked as duplicate

Getting trapped in a plug-in

marked as duplicate

Can never use contenteditable? Should document workarounds/games/kludges related to

medium

There are techniques but can't validate right now and don't have spec *yet*

low priority and technology-specific

However, if use elements semantically correctly would satisfy to best of ability. Also, in some techs (flash) don't' you have to do for info to get passed through?

change "low priority and tech specific" previous to "hold" for prev tech

Also "hold" for "However, if use.. tech

Concern that people creating UI elements with a and div and is that not using the elements semantically correctly

high priority but HTML-specific

Issue - is it possible to meet the strict interpretation of this in HTML? If not, what is the intent? Can we meet the intent with other wording?

kill as technique

Point to external documentation that explains/shows

kill

Redundant with using accessibility conventions? No - if use accessibility features, get for free. If not, need to do the things in L1 SC6

kill as technique

People interpret this to mean that they have to use all accessibility features (e.g., accesskey, tabindex) that not necessarily the case

high priority for Guide Document

Document the user agent issue where accessibility features are not supported or supported inconsistently

kill as technique but discuss in other relevant techniques

<Michael> ACTION: ls send proposal to list about missing SC around visual pres of structure [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<Michael> ACTION: michael updated harvesting documents with these prioritizations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: ls send proposal to list about missing SC around visual pres of structure [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: michael updated harvesting documents with these prioritizations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
 
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