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TAG face-to-face meeting, 19th-21st May 2008
HP Labs, Bristol, UK

photo credit: Noah Mendelsohn

Nearby: TAG Issues Tracker - findings - www-tag archive - tag archive

Meeting at a glance

Note: TimBL has commitments 10:30-11:15 Tuesday 20th hence extended morning break.

Logistics

(also separate Logistics page)

2. Recommended readings

• TAG Charter
   
• Webarch
   
• tagSoupIntegration-54
  • ARIA Host Language Integration
    • Michael Cooper's Summary
    • Henry's Analysis
  • Namespace Support in Browsers
    • "Improved Namespace Support" in IE-8 Beta 1
    • Related DaveO Blog entries #1 and #2.
       
• XMLVersioning-41
  • Extending and Versioning Languages: Draft TAG Findings:
    • Terminology
    • Strategies - recent reviews from due from
      • Ashok, Raman, Noah, Dan and Norm
    • XML Languages
       
• passwordsInTheClear-52
  • Current Draft Finding (short)
     
• namespaceDocument-8
  • 13th November 2007 version of "Associating Resources with Namespaces"
  • Discussion at Feb F2F
     
• UrnsAndRegistries-50
  • Latest draft of "URNs, Namespaces and Registries"
  • Feedback from Chimezie Ogbuji
  • HTTP URIs are Expensive ESW Wiki Page
     
• xmlFunctions-34
  • TimBL DesignIssues Note: "The Interpretation of XML documents"
  • "Compositionality, elaboration and XML document semantics"
     
• AWWSW
  • 'Project' Homepage
  • Ontological Fundamentals (email summary from Jonathan)
     
• httpRedirections-57
  • "Finding Resource Descriptions" esw wiki page.
  • "Uniform Access to Metadata" (Use Cases) from Jonathan
  • ESW Link header page
     
• Self-Describing Web
  • 12th May 2008 version of "The Self-Describing Web
     

3. Agenda

3.1 Convene and Agenda Review (<30min)

1. Convene: take roll, review and agree agenda
2. Regrets: Raman
3. Appoint: scribes for the three days
4. Approve: minutes from 15th May 2008

3.2 Aims and Objectives

For...

• This meeting
• Period between now and our next F2F (23-25 September in Kansas City)
• This TAG year...

Measures of Success?

3.3 tagSoupIntegration-54 (ISSUE-54)

• Reading
  • ARIA Host Language Integration
    • "WAI-ARIA Implementation Concerns" by Michael Cooper
    • "Syntax for ARIA: Cost-benefit analysis" by Henry Thompson
       
  • Namespace Support in Browsers
    • "Improved Namespace Support" in IE-8 Beta 1
    • Related DaveO Blog entries #1 and #2.
       
• Objective
  • To have develop a concensus position wrt:
    • Distributed Extensibility in General
    • ARIA Host Language Integration
       
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-141 on Henry S. Thompson to Henry to circulate the document with a cover note that expresses that the TAG now has a working hypothesis that the colon is technically feasible and invites continuing discussion. - due 2008-05-15, open

3.4 XMLVersioning-41 (ISSUE-41)

• Reading
  • Extending and Versioning Languages: Draft TAG Findings:
    • Terminology
    • Compatibility Strategies - recent reviews from due from:
      • Ashok, Raman, Noah, Dan and Norm
    • XML Languages
       
• Objective
  • To progress the Compatibility Strategies Draft toward completion.
     
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-107 on Dan Connolly to Review compatibility-strategies section 3 (soon) and 5 for May/Bristol - due 2008-05-15, open
  • ACTION-108 on Ashok Malhotra to Review compatibility-strategies section 2, 4 a week after DO signals review - due 2008-04-04, open
  • ACTION-109 on T.V. Raman to Review compatibility-strategies section 3, 4, 5 due 2008-04-10 - due 2008-04-04, open
  • ACTION-110 on Norman Walsh to Review compatibility-strategies section 3, 4, 5 - due 2008-04-04, pending review
  • ACTION-133 on David Orchard to Ask raman what he thinks should be done wrt css versioning - due 2008-04-17, open
  • ACTION-140 on David Orchard to Revise strategies part of XML Versioning finding by 13 May 2008 - due 2008-05-08, open

3.5 passwordsInTheClear-52 (ISSUE-52)

• Reading
  • Current Draft Finding (short)
     
• Objective
  • To finalize the finding.
     
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-138 on David Orchard to Revise passwords in clear finding to discuss strong passwords with digest auth. - due 2008-05-08, pending review
  • ACTION-139 on Noah Mendelsohn to Review Dave's redraft of passwords in the clear (dealing with digest auth and strong passwords) - due 2008-05-08, pending review

3.6 namespaceDocument-8 (ISSUE-8)

• Reading
  • 13th November 2007 version of "Associating Resources with Namespaces"
  • Discussion at Feb F2F
     
• Objective
  • To finalise the finding
     
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-114 on Henry S. Thompson to Henry to find the counter example that made it necesseary to make a terniary relationship - due 2008-03-06, open
  • ACTION-115 on Henry S. Thompson to Henry to improve the presentation of the way the ontology reconstructs RDDL 'purpose', and to attempt to address skw's concern about the subject of the so-called purpose relation - due 2008-03-06, open

3.7 URNsAndRegistries-50 (ISSUE-50)

• Reading
  • Latest draft of "URNs, Namespaces and Registries"
  • Feedback from Chimezie Ogbuji
  • HTTP URIs are Expensive ESW Wiki Page
     
• Objective
  • Determine status and develop an effective action plan.

   

• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-33 on Henry S. Thompson to revise URNsAndRegistries-50 finding in response to F2F discussion - due 2008-03-27, open
  • ACTION-98 on Noah Mendelsohn to Craft comments and send them on our behalf. - due 2008-02-07, closed
  • ACTION-121 on Henry S. Thompson to HT to draft TAG input to review of draft ARK RFC - due 2008-03-27, open

3.8 xmlFunctions-34 (ISSUE-34)

• Reading
  • TimBL DesignIssues Note: "The Interpretation of XML documents"
  • "Compositionality, elaboration and XML document semantics"
     
• Objective
  • Determine status and develop an effective action plan.
     
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-90 on Dan Connolly to Review henry's new document - due 2008-03-14, pending review
  • ACTION-113 on Henry S. Thompson to HT to a) revise composition.pdf to take account of suggestions from Tim & Jonathan and feedback from email and b) produce a new version of the Elaborated Infoset finding, possibly incorporating some of the PDF - due 2008-05-15, open

3.9 AWWSW

• Reading
  • 'Project' Homepage
  • Ontological Fundamentals (email summary from Jonathan prior to Feb F2F)
• Objectives
  • Status update from Jonathan

3.10 httpRedirections-57 (ISSUE-57)

• Reading
  • "Finding Resource Descriptions" esw wiki page.
  • "Uniform Access to Metadata" (Use Cases) from Jonathan
  • Link header ESW wiki page
• Objectives
  • Status update
  • Establish common understanding the (finding resource descriptions) problem and possible solutions.
  • Test whether there is TAG consensus in support or opposition to prospective solutions.
     
• Related Action Items
  • ACTION-116 on Tim Berners-Lee to Align the tabulator internal vocabulary with the vocabulary in the rules http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswDboothsRules, getting changes to either as needed - due 2008-03-06 [CONTINUE]

3.11 Self Describing Web

• Reading
  • 12th May 2008 version of "The Self-Describing Web
     
• Objectives
  • Review with an intention to finalize this finding
     
• Related Action Items:
  • ACTION-30 on Noah Mendelsohn to revise Self-Describing Web finding in response to 2007-07 F2F discussion due 2008-05-15 [DONE] email

3.13 Web Arch Vol 2

• Objectives
  • Determine status and develop an effective action plan.
• Related Action Items
  • ACTION-106 on Norm Walsh to Make a pass over the WebArch 2.0 doc't which adds a paragraph, and connects up to issues list. - due 2008-05-08, open

3.14 "Rich Client" Technologies

• Discussion topic suggested by Noah (member-only)

3.15 Wrapup/Other Business