Minutes Santa Clara F2F Part II 2014-10-27: Shrink-to-fit, Sizing, Grid, Test Suites
Shrink-to-fit
- There was no agreement on the best behavior to create interoperability for layout. Everyone seemed to like their own approach.
- Several people were tasked with writing e-mails to the list describing their float layout for intrinsic sizes in order to try and create an agreement for how the sizing approximation works and then spec that.
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Sizing
- No one had a perfect solution for how to resolve intrinsic sizes of non-replaced blocks when the width isn’t definite.
- Assuming the value is 0 was raised and garnered some interest, but there was a desire to ensure that the description is correct.
- The interested parties will work together offline for a solution.
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Grid
- There was a long conversation about the request from SASS to not use bare parentheses since they use it for grouping.
- Brackets were suggested as an alternative. The editors stated that when they were originally writing this part of the spec, the selection of parenthesis over brackets was a coin-toss choice, not a specific preference.
- There was conversation on which provided more readability, brackets or parenthesis which no clear winner, but no one strongly disliking either option.
- However, there were a considerable number of people that had concerns about the precedent that the group would be setting by agreeing to make this change for one preprocessor, even though it’s a large one.
- Ultimately, there was no consensus on the change.
- Rossen brought his proposed algorithm for grid fragmentation to the group for feedback. His algorithm sought to maintain grid areas as non-fragmented as possible.
- There was concern about forcing items onto the next page to avoid fragmentation and about defining a non-ideal algorithm when implementers may be able to do better behavior.
- Break properties were also discussed with some concern expressed that the proposal states that they don’t apply to grid items, just the content inside.
- The work gregwithworth has done on collapsing was tabled for the time being.
- Grid‘s inability to handle problems like this should be solved since it’s a reasonable case. Fantasai outlined a potential approach and she and TabAtkins will work on making it possible.
- Sizing of grid items inside the containing block will be clarified slightly in the spec language by explicitly stating that sizing is defined by the object’s type.
Full Minutes || Spec Referenced
Test Suites
- ArronEi will go through the errata on CSS 2.1 and see exactly what needs tests so that an update can be published with a test suite.
- He is also working on creating a document that standardizes the process for getting tests and will use the backgrounds and borders test suite to make sure his process is complete and accurate before presenting the document to the group.
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