W3C

– DRAFT –
Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

14 January 2021

Attendees

Present
Fazio, Jennie, JohnRochford, kirkwood, LisaSeemanKest, oops ;), Roy, stevelee
Regrets
EA and Abi
Chair
-
Scribe
fazio

Meeting minutes

Introductions

<LisaSeemanKest> regrets eA and Abi

actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Timelines_and_

Jenny found designer to take on task of developing images

Mockup coming in next week or so

LS: EA rewriting personas, simplifying them

Roy: created pull request in Git for parrt 1

icons

<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aRoYev1aAIHhIq37Itt96ueBwLh5zXMUeJBYxL0MCkQ/edit

<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aRoYev1aAIHhIq37Itt96ueBwLh5zXMUeJBYxL0MCkQ/edit

LS: Do we like idea 2.2 icons?

<LisaSeemanKest> assuming the check box to the left is empty

KA: html doesn't usually check boxes it puts an x

KA: line up selected and unselected images

<LisaSeemanKest> apove new concpt

<kirkwood> agree they should be grouped its a bit confusing as is

JK: group in same states to reduce confusion. Add space or line separating them

LS: more whitespace or line?

Jenny: Only whitespace but not sure

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

0

<LisaSeemanKest> david is netrual

<Jennie> .5

LS 4 like or no?

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

<Jennie> +1 if the letter I can be with the format so that it has the tops and bottoms showing so it doesn't look like an L

+1

<krisannekinney> +1

<LisaSeemanKest> John is +1 as in good enogh

<Roy> 0

Issue 136 - Use Person First Language when referring to autistic people

<LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0034.html

Terminology preferences are going to arise

Rachael, cultural variations are likely

JK: government sector has same language struggle: peson first language or other?

<LisaSeemanKest> say autistic people and add a note in the deffintion that langage is shifting

Jenny: place note at beginning to mitigate negative connotations, add it was chosen with fedback frrom community

<LisaSeemanKest> note goes in the glossary and deffintion - that needs to be aproved

<LisaSeemanKest> person first language with 2 notes

<LisaSeemanKest> autistic people language with 2 notes

-1

<kirkwood> 0

<Rachael> David: I am happy to get more feedback from the broader community.

<JohnRochford> 0

<Jennie> 0

<Rachael> Lisa: He's given a number of sources of advocacy groups. There are though different advocacy groups.

<Rachael> ...David, do you want to take an action to write to him?

<Rachael> DAvid: Yes

Action: David to ask autsim speeks

<trackbot> Created ACTION-332 - Ask autsim speeks [on David Fazio - due 2021-01-21].

Issue 162 - about other groups https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0032.html

<kirkwood> think you will find there is not consensus in the autism community https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KUdjKqPFpbsRmXyl-09anpTYC3QnbPBwMiojj3e2NPs/edit

<kirkwood> sorry worong link

LS: non-native speakers ae out of scope

KA: EO often uses overarching language "beneficial for all people"

<Rachael> +1 to emphasizing good for eveyone in the introduction but not elsewhere.

<LisaSeemanKest> go ahead of emphisin in the introduction but notmore elswere

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

+1

<krisannekinney> +1

<Jennie> +1

<JohnRochford> 0

<Roy> +1

<kirkwood> +1

LS: Issue 145 spanish speaking group, didn't realize ADHD was included. Maybe we need to clarify

<stevelee> I think we try to avoid listing specific medical terms? They change and we might miss some

<Rachael> A link to the email with the wording is at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0030.html

<LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0030.html part 2

<LisaSeemanKest> do we aprove?

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

<stevelee> +1

<Rachael> +1

<Roy> +1

<kirkwood> +1

<krisannekinney> +1

<Jennie> +1

+1

<JohnRochford> +1

LS: concerned ADHD wasn't clear

<kirkwood> this includes, but is not limited to, …

<Jennie> +1 to John Kirkwood's addition

different cultures categorize disability different

+1

Racael: Abstract and intro

Steve: glossary

<LisaSeemanKest> add langage to Abstract and intro and then add sentence about langage shifiting

<Rachael> +1 to John K's suggestion.

<LisaSeemanKest> add langage to Abstract and intro adding"not limited to" and then add sentence about langage shifiting

<krisannekinney> +1 to John Kirkwood's suggestion

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

<Rachael> +1

<JohnRochford> +1 tp Kirkwood's suggestion

<stevelee> +1

<JohnRochford> to

<Jennie> +1

<Roy> +1

<krisannekinney> +1

LS: cognitive accessibility not written about

Jenny: Was removed from glossary

JennLS: cognitive disability shouldn't be added

<Jennie> Background about People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities, Accessibility, and the web - like this?

<LisaSeemanKest> we change the name of

<LisaSeemanKest> "Background about People with Learning and Cognitive Disabilities and the

<LisaSeemanKest> Web"

<LisaSeemanKest> to

<LisaSeemanKest> "Background about People with Learning and Cognitive Disabilities,

<LisaSeemanKest> Accessibility

<LisaSeemanKest> and the Web"

Topic is broader than just coga

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

<stevelee> +1

<krisannekinney> +1

+1

<Jennie> -1 unless cognitive and learning disabilities

<Roy> +1

<kirkwood> +1

<Rachael> Background about People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities, Accessibility and the Web

<LisaSeemanKest> +1

<Jennie> +1

<Jennie> thank you!

<stevelee> +1

<JohnRochford> +1

+1

<krisannekinney> +1

<Rachael> +1

<kirkwood> presednt+

rrs agent, make minutes

Summary of action items

  1. David to ask autsim speeks
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 127 (Wed Dec 30 17:39:58 2020 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: JennLS, Jenny, JK, KA, LS, Racael, Steve