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13:00:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13:00:38 <trackbot> Date: 14 January 2021
13:01:13 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+ actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Timelines_and_
13:01:35 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+ icons
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13:06:43 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+ Issue 136 - Use Person First Language when referring to autistic people
13:16:43 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+ Issue 162 - about other groups https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0032.html
13:17:30 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+145. on different groups that benefit and cognitive accessibility  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0030.html
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14:44:34 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda?
14:45:15 <LisaSeemanKest> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:45:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/14-coga-minutes.html LisaSeemanKest
14:56:12 <LisaSeemanKest> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:59:31 <Jennie> present+
15:00:35 <LisaSeemanKest> present+
15:01:09 <LisaSeemanKest> Scribe: fazio
15:01:47 <Fazio> present+
15:02:03 <Fazio> Introductions
15:02:47 <LisaSeemanKest> regrets eA and Abi
15:03:00 <LisaSeemanKest> regrets: EA and Abi
15:05:01 <Roy> present+
15:09:20 <LisaSeemanKest> zakim, next item
15:09:20 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Timelines_and_ -- taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
15:10:53 <Fazio> Jenny found designer to take on task of developing images
15:11:23 <Fazio> Mockup coming in next week or so
15:11:44 <Fazio> LS: EA rewriting personas, simplifying them
15:12:51 <Fazio> Roy: created pull request in Git for parrt 1
15:13:41 <LisaSeemanKest> agenda+ what to put in the colapesble regions
15:14:02 <LisaSeemanKest> zakim, next item
15:14:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- icons -- taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
15:14:53 <LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aRoYev1aAIHhIq37Itt96ueBwLh5zXMUeJBYxL0MCkQ/edit
15:15:17 <LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aRoYev1aAIHhIq37Itt96ueBwLh5zXMUeJBYxL0MCkQ/edit
15:16:47 <Fazio> LS: Do we like idea 2.2 icons?
15:18:08 <LisaSeemanKest> assuming the check box to the left is empty
15:18:08 <Fazio> KA: html doesn't usually check boxes it puts an x
15:18:20 <Jennie> q+
15:19:10 <Jennie> ack Jennie
15:19:47 <Fazio> KA: line up selected and unselected images
15:19:54 <LisaSeemanKest> q?
15:20:09 <Jennie> q+
15:20:10 <LisaSeemanKest> apove new concpt
15:20:52 <Jennie> ack Jennie
15:21:22 <kirkwood> agree they should be grouped its a bit confusing as is
15:22:27 <Fazio> JK: group in same states to reduce confusion. Add space or line separating them
15:22:51 <Fazio> LS: more whitespace or line?
15:23:09 <Fazio> Jenny: Only whitespace but not sure
15:23:42 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
15:24:01 <Fazio> 0
15:24:33 <LisaSeemanKest> david is netrual
15:24:36 <Jennie> .5
15:25:32 <Fazio> LS 4 like or no?
15:25:42 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
15:25:51 <Jennie> +1 if the letter I can be with the format so that it has the tops and bottoms showing so it doesn't look like an L
15:26:17 <Fazio> +1
15:26:28 <krisannekinney> +1
15:27:12 <LisaSeemanKest> John is +1 as in good enogh
15:27:33 <Roy> 0
15:27:49 <LisaSeemanKest> zakim, next item
15:27:49 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Issue 136 - Use Person First Language when referring to autistic people -- taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
15:29:06 <LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0034.html
15:29:21 <Fazio> q+
15:29:54 <Rachael> q+
15:30:25 <LisaSeemanKest> ack d
15:30:45 <Rachael> ack Fazio
15:31:02 <Jennie> q+
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15:32:59 <Fazio> Terminology preferences are going to arise
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15:33:18 <stevelee> present+
15:33:29 <Fazio> Rachael, cultural variations are likely
15:33:39 <Rachael> ack Rachael
15:33:50 <Jennie> ack Jennie
15:34:25 <Fazio> JK: government sector has same language struggle: peson first language or other?
15:34:52 <kirkwood> present+
15:34:55 <Jennie> q+
15:35:06 <LisaSeemanKest> say autistic people and add a note in the deffintion that langage is shifting
15:36:02 <Fazio> Jenny: place note at beginning to mitigate negative connotations, add it was chosen with fedback frrom community
15:36:21 <Jennie> ack Jennie
15:36:23 <LisaSeemanKest> note goes in the glossary and deffintion  - that needs to be aproved
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15:36:43 <LisaSeemanKest> person first language with 2 notes
15:36:51 <JohnRochford> present +
15:37:12 <JohnRochford> present+
15:37:15 <LisaSeemanKest> autistic people language  with 2 notes
15:37:45 <Fazio> -1
15:38:01 <kirkwood> 0
15:38:16 <Rachael> David:  I am happy to get more feedback from the broader community.
15:38:31 <JohnRochford> 0
15:38:37 <Jennie> 0
15:38:41 <Rachael> Lisa: He's given a number of sources of advocacy groups.  There are though different advocacy groups.
15:38:52 <Rachael> ...David, do you want to take an action to write to him?
15:38:56 <Rachael> DAvid: Yes
15:39:06 <LisaSeemanKest> action: David to ask autsim speeks
15:39:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-332 - Ask autsim speeks [on David Fazio - due 2021-01-21].
15:39:30 <LisaSeemanKest> zakim, next item
15:39:30 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Issue 162 - about other groups https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0032.html -- taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
15:40:16 <Rachael> q+
15:40:25 <kirkwood> think you will find there is not consensus in the autism community https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KUdjKqPFpbsRmXyl-09anpTYC3QnbPBwMiojj3e2NPs/edit
15:40:55 <kirkwood> sorry worong link
15:41:49 <krisannekinney> q+
15:42:00 <Fazio> LS: non-native speakers ae out of scope
15:42:00 <Rachael> q-
15:43:16 <Fazio> KA: EO often uses overarching language "beneficial for all people"
15:45:00 <Rachael> +1 to emphasizing good for eveyone in the introduction but not elsewhere.
15:45:04 <LisaSeemanKest> go ahead of emphisin in the introduction but notmore  elswere
15:45:07 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
15:45:10 <Fazio> +1
15:45:11 <krisannekinney> +1
15:45:12 <Jennie> +1
15:45:15 <JohnRochford> 0
15:45:15 <krisannekinney> ack me
15:45:18 <Roy> +1
15:45:25 <kirkwood> +1
15:48:42 <Fazio> LS: Issue 145 spanish speaking group, didn't realize ADHD was included. Maybe we need to clarify
15:49:43 <stevelee> I think we try to avoid listing specific medical terms? They change and we might miss some
15:51:20 <Rachael> A link to the email with the wording is at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0030.html
15:51:47 <LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Jan/0030.html part 2
15:51:52 <LisaSeemanKest> do we aprove?
15:51:54 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
15:51:55 <stevelee> +1
15:51:58 <Rachael> +1
15:52:03 <Roy> +1
15:52:05 <kirkwood> +1
15:52:07 <krisannekinney> +1
15:52:09 <Jennie> +1
15:52:15 <Fazio> +1
15:52:30 <JohnRochford> +1
15:53:01 <Fazio> LS: concerned ADHD wasn't clear
15:53:15 <kirkwood> this includes, but is not limited to, …
15:53:27 <Jennie> +1 to John Kirkwood's addition
15:53:30 <Rachael> q+
15:53:35 <Fazio> different cultures categorize disability different
15:53:38 <Fazio> +1
15:53:41 <stevelee> q+
15:54:29 <Fazio> Racael: Abstract and intro
15:54:47 <Fazio> Steve: glossary
15:55:25 <LisaSeemanKest> add langage to Abstract and intro and then add sentence about langage shifiting
15:56:27 <Rachael> +1 to John K's suggestion.
15:56:40 <LisaSeemanKest> add langage to Abstract and intro adding"not limited to"  and then add sentence about langage shifiting
15:56:41 <krisannekinney> +1 to John Kirkwood's suggestion
15:56:46 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
15:56:51 <Rachael> +1
15:56:52 <JohnRochford> +1 tp Kirkwood's suggestion
15:56:54 <stevelee> +1
15:56:54 <JohnRochford> to
15:56:56 <Jennie> +1
15:56:58 <Roy> +1
15:56:59 <krisannekinney> +1
15:57:56 <Jennie> q+
15:57:57 <Fazio> LS: cognitive accessibility not written about
15:58:19 <LisaSeemanKest> ack r
15:58:25 <LisaSeemanKest> ack s
15:58:29 <LisaSeemanKest> ack j
15:58:53 <Fazio> Jenny: Was removed from glossary
16:00:00 <Fazio> JennLS: cognitive disability shouldn't be added
16:00:09 <stevelee> q+
16:00:19 <Rachael> q+
16:00:25 <Jennie> Background about People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities, Accessibility, and the web - like this?
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> we change the name of
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> "Background about People with Learning and Cognitive Disabilities and the
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> Web"
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> to
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> "Background about People with Learning and Cognitive Disabilities,
16:00:29 <LisaSeemanKest> Accessibility
16:00:30 <LisaSeemanKest> and the Web"
16:00:33 <Fazio> Topic is broader than just coga
16:00:34 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
16:00:36 <stevelee> +1
16:00:39 <krisannekinney> +1
16:00:42 <Fazio> +1
16:00:44 <Jennie> -1 unless cognitive and learning disabilities
16:00:44 <Roy> +1
16:00:55 <kirkwood> +1
16:01:18 <Rachael> Background about People with  Cognitive and Learning Disabilities, Accessibility and the Web
16:01:23 <LisaSeemanKest> +1
16:01:23 <Jennie> +1
16:01:26 <Jennie> thank you!
16:01:26 <stevelee> +1
16:01:26 <JohnRochford> +1
16:01:27 <Fazio> +1
16:01:28 <krisannekinney> +1
16:01:42 <Rachael> +1
16:02:29 <kirkwood> presednt+
16:02:30 <Fazio> rrs agent, make minutes
16:02:39 <kirkwood> present+ oops ;)
16:02:43 <Fazio> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/14-coga-minutes.html Fazio