<scribe> scribe: janina
bg: usual ...
amy: some css
bg: let's do in task forces
ma: cg on gaming added a11y
<Matthew_Atkinson> (Here's the URL to the rechartering update for the Web Games Community Group, in case we don't get to it later: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-games/2020Jul/0005.html)
bg: reviews need to work out
cross group mtgs by august 13
... tf's need to define who, and what agenda
... we need to reach out to other groups to get agreement to
meet -- all before the 13th
bg: pronunciation -- interesting mtg
ia: yes, several screen reader
vendors, good discussion
... discussed pros and cons of alternative approaches
... no consens on approach, so more discussion needed
... in line ssml is more work now, but seemingly more useful
longer range
... ssml didn't care either way--as long as a mechanism to
consume ssml more easily
... also dom validation is important
... jamie te will help follow up
bg: was surprised to learn ssml not supported by apple
<becky> js: discussed TPAC groups at RQTF
<becky> js: working XUAR and RAUR docs. Judy pushing for taking on how to hold accessible teleconference
<Matthew_Atkinson> Janina: RQTF working on two publications: XR Accessibility User Requirements (XAUR) and WebRTC. There are a few others that've had recent positive activity, e.g. Web of Things. Also work on how to hold an accessible teleconference. Moved on to working on GitHub issues for WebRTC (RAUR). Goal is to update both XAUR and RAUR before TPAC.
<Matthew_Atkinson> Janina, Becky: Also working on the Explainer for Personalization.
amy: have been looking at some
older css ticks on github
... looked at april 2017 issue 589
... noted dependency on issue 427 -- now cleared
mc: computed role is being used
by browsers, but haven't standardized in aria
... not sure whether will be in aria 1.3
<MichaelC_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/427
mc: member visible -- so invisible to Amy
[discussion of how to revive ...]
mc: wonders whether this is in
AOM
... AOM has computed a11y tree
... Was Alice Boxhall in the conversation? Should confirm
<MichaelC_> https://github.com/wicg/aom
mc: we can say it should be handled in AOM and point the issue to Alice
amy: one more ... also migrated
amy issue 625
mc: yes, authors can prevent style-sheet customization
amy: it is hard to overwrite
mc: wonders whether there was a redirection on this? Would be good discussion for CSS-A11y-TF with CSS
bg: can we get low vision input? or WCAG?
mc: first question does anyone try to do this
bg: Wayne Dick?
amy: Yes, got my attention
bg: will check with him
amy: phps people don't because it's too easily prevented?
mc no news -- getting closer!
mc none
zakim close this item
mc: one new ...
<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3856
mc: relates to media queries 5 --
contrast selection
... question whether this issue now resolved in mq5
... added "forced"
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediaqueries-5/#forced-colors
mc: reads from mq5
... suggests we hold it open for another week giving time to
review all the links ...
... closed july 24
bg: we'll hold ...
mc nothing
js: began review, sure we have
something to say
... aria should not be disableable
... but should not expose it's use upstream
... more to read
<becky> http://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist.html
mc: going through actions ... will look off call
js: issue in email with fast checklist
<becky> MediaStream Track Content Hint https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-mst-content-hint-20200728/
<Michaelc_2> ACTION: janina to review MediaStreamTrack Content Hints
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2263 - Review mediastreamtrack content hints [on Janina Sajka - due 2020-08-05].
<Michaelc_2> action-2263: https://www.w3.org/TR/mst-content-hint/
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2263 Review mediastreamtrack content hints.
ma: looking to see what their
work modus is
... seems good momentum at the moment
bg: new grou?
<Michaelc_2> action-2263: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/MediaStreamTrack_Content_Hints
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2263 Review mediastreamtrack content hints.
ma: no, long time; but fell dormant and now rejuvenated because of industry activity
js: cg with charter?
ma: because charter focuses the mind
<Michaelc_2> action-2263: Review request with FAST checklist submitted: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2020Jul/0031.html
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2263 Review mediastreamtrack content hints.
ma: francois is involved
bg: looks at matrix and sees april 2013 last activity --
ma: yes, but has another web forum incl workshop from last week
bg: fell off our list because of
inactivity
... remaining groups relatively new -- so we can return to them
later
<Matthew_Atkinson> Janina: we could do with a new/better definition of what it means to synchronize media. E.g. a transcript can be pretty loosely synchronized, but audio that goes along with a video stream would seem off if it was more than a few milliseconds out. We could talk to Timed Text at TPAC? RQTF could examine the literature for synchronisation requirements.
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