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02 Oct 2017

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Attendees

Present
jasonjgw, lisa, AndyHeath, clapierre, janina, Thaddeus, GreggVan, MichaelC
Regrets
jan
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
andyheath

Contents


<lisa> Other ideas: Do we want it as a vocabulary? should we trim the specification?

<Thaddeus> +Present Thaddeus

<Thaddeus> + Thaddeus

<Thaddeus> can someone post the call in number please

<lisa> scribe: andyheath

<lisa> thad can you access this page https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_personalization

<lisa> regrets, jan

Additional introductions

Texthelp will be joining when they get through the process things

<clapierre> scribe: AndyHeath

Updates (wiki up and running, user needs table and proposed time lines (mature draft before December?) https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki

If you want to add more pages/links on the wiki you can

<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Task-list-for-semantics

<Thaddeus> I cant get in to the right now

<Thaddeus> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_personalization

On the semantics page we are collecting sub-issues

<Thaddeus> are you allowed to paste in the number

Collect comments when reviewing documents in this place

<lisa> Thad, i opened a private chat window

<clapierre> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Task-list-for-semantics

<lisa> thadd i put the info into a privat chat

The semantics page is stuff for the documents and a todo list

<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Task-list-for-semantics

<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/

Can we get a straw draft out for early December to be useful for WCAG 2.1

Janina - why are we on a WCAG timeeline at all given that ARIA ia all about tecnniques

Lisa - the more supportive techniques the better and we have some

Lisa - there is already a draft of our techniques

Andy agrees with Janina too

Michael agrees with Janina

Lisa/Gregg - ARIA is limited to markup languages

Debate about whether there are sufficeint techniques

<Zakim> janina, you wanted to ask for some more about what the wcag 2.1 tie in is

There isn’t agreement on whether we care about the WCAG 2.1 schedule

Gregg - its too late

<lisa> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/

Lisa - do we want 2pwd for 5th december

Janina - updating the draft by 5th december but focussing on wcag may not be the way to go

Additional introductions

How often do we want to meet

Lisa and Charles wants us to meet every week

For now one call per week in the cuyrrent timeslot

<Thaddeus> I am fine joining a weekly meeting

Gregg - wcag used surveys and the meetings followed to resolve unresolved things

Jason - what are the objectives for a specification ?

Jason - do we want it tight and small or larger and take longer to progress

<clapierre> +1 to weekly meetings unless cancelled

<lisa> +1 to weekly meetings unless cancelled

Lisa - “I would like a weekly call supplemented by surveys where useful”

<clapierre> +1 to using surveys

<Thaddeus> +1 to using surveys

+1 for weekly call + surveys

Meeting at TPAC

Gregg - “surveys - make sure that links always open up on a new page"

Charles “TPAC - I’ll be there for the week. Digital Publishing Monday and Tuesday,Thurs and Fri = publisjing summit”

<Thaddeus> I will be

Discussion - how/whether to have a meeting at TPAC on personalisation

Janina - propose talk some personalisation in joint meeting for ARIA and CSS Media Queries sometime on Minday or Tues.

Lisa +1 for pesonalisation in joint meeting + should meet with dig pub

Charles - will propose jont meeting to dig pub

Janina - meet with CSS best Mon or Tues

Lisa, Charles, Janina take this offline

<lisa> ACTION: charles sort out tpac [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/02-personalization-minutes.html#action01]

Lisa = “its a long spec and people more familiar with the metadata side

Lisa - |lets try to focus effort on things people are implementing while not throwing stuff out"

Lisa - “want more use cases but for a narrower scope”

Lisa/Charles - don’t throw anything out

First agenda # for next week - discussion of potential restructuring of spec

Jason - “conventional way to think about it is start with preferences”

Jason - “but its not clear how all the pieces of this can fit together”

ack

Lisa - “architecture coming second"

<Thaddeus> agreed

<Thaddeus> thank you

Lisa - “we can make a wiki page where we discuss the architectural issues"

<lisa> ACTION: lisa to make page on actectures [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/02-personalization-minutes.html#action02]

Everyone please look at the specirication

should some things be considered “at risk"

Please add to the wiki pages

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: charles sort out tpac [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/02-personalization-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to make page on actectures [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/02-personalization-minutes.html#action02]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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