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<roba> is the meeting link now https://app.gotomeeting.com/?meetingId=565058525 ?
<Linda> I used this one https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c968aa0bf3f
<ScottSimmons> apologies all - GoTo Meeting is suddenly not recognizing me as the organizier of my meeting
<roba> the webex is giving me no audio option.
<Linda> That may help, I have no audio options either.
<ClausStadler> i also get no audio option
<billroberts> I have the host key (I think!) as we use the same slot for the coverage call - shall I claim the host role?
<billroberts> done
<billroberts> it looks like Scott has been able to start gotomeeting now too - which one are we going to use?
<billroberts> Scott is saying on gtm "Let's go webex"
<billroberts> I'm avoiding scribing as also eating
<kerry> scribe: MattPerry
<kerry> scribenick: MattPerry
<kerry> +1
<ScottSimmons> * my apologies - I have to multitask a little today to deal with a phone issue at my office
<ahaller2> +1
<Linda> +1
<billroberts> 0 - didn't make it last time
<roba> +1
0
RESOLUTION: minutes approved
<kerry> patent call https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
<kerry> Reminder F2F agenda including votes planned https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:F2F5
kerry: F2F only two weeks
away
... please have a look at the agenda
billroberts: exchanged emails with Jon Blower, what is a reasonable time for people to review before the vote
kerry: usually a week
... please tell everyone when it's ready to review
... Monday would be great
... 2 hours on agenda to discuss SSN
... 1 hour on spatial ontology
<ScottSimmons> * Josh - I just responded by email that the WebEx is running, GoTo was a problem (that better get rectified by next week!!!!!!)
kerry: next is best
practice
... Friday starts with best practice in the morning
... at 11:00 we have SSN until 13:00
... then lunch and more best practice
Linda: question about BP on Friday morning ... what issues should we discuss at that time?
kerry: not sure, I can volunteer
to put in some topics
... any other questions about F2F?
<kerry> Attendees at F2F need access permission: You must be here https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Attending_F2F5 to get invitation letter from Google
kerry: please make sure you put your names on the attendee list
<billroberts> 15/16 December
<billroberts> +1 to no call on 14th
kerry: no plenary call in two weeks
<ahaller2> +1
<Linda> +1
<ByronCinNZ> +1
+1
kerry: the next is on Dec. 28th
<josh> +1
kerry: shall we cancel that one too
<roba> +1
<ahaller2> no call on dec 28th
+1
<ahaller2> +1
<ByronCinNZ> +1 to no on 28th
<josh> Teleconferencing on skis is dangerous...
<ClausStadler> +1 to no
<billroberts> +1 to not 28th
<Linda> +1
kerry: next date is Jan 4th
... what about that one?
<billroberts> I'll be back at work on 4th, so available but not pressing for it
<ClausStadler> -1 for me, starting the week after is fine
<ByronCinNZ> The 4th is not 2 weeks after 28h
<ahaller2> 11th of january would be the next call
Linda: Jan 4th is not 2 weeks after the 28th. It will be the 11th
<ByronCinNZ> +1 to 11th
<ClausStadler> +1 to 11th
kerry: Yes. This is more of an issue for subgroups
<kerry> corretion: next plenary 11th Jan
kerry: We don't need to cancel the 11th
<Linda> +1
kerry: next plenary is Jan
11th
... shall we discuss subgroup meetings?
Linda: we will have subgroup meeting next week and will discuss it then
billroberts: Linda's suggestion sounds good to us too. We will discuss it next week
<kerry> all subgroup meetings are on as usual next week
kerry: Linda, when will BP draft be ready?
Linda: depends on Jeremy but it will probably be by the end of next week
kerry: don't hesitate to put it up as-is
Linda: had discusssion with Bart. He agreed to add some content. He is working on that now
kerry: any other comments on upcoming meetings?
<kerry> topic : Review of Outstanding Actions and other Housekeeping
kerry: heading towards the end of
this WG
... we need to clear off outstanding issues
<kerry> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/
kerry: checking open
actions
... Action 127
<kerry> action-127
<trackbot> action-127 -- Joshua Lieberman to to comment on table content and format around action-98 -- due 2015-12-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/127
josh: you can close that one
<kerry> close action-127
<trackbot> Closed action-127.
<kerry> action-127
<trackbot> action-127 -- Joshua Lieberman to to comment on table content and format around action-98 -- due 2015-12-16 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/127
<kerry> action-128
<trackbot> action-128 -- Jeremy Tandy to Talk to christine perey about the need for relative positioning -- due 2015-12-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/128
Linda: as far as I know, it's not
done
... it's about relative positioning
<roba> its also about natural language
kerry: not much we can do about it right now
josh: not fully sure what
"relative positioning" is here
... it's not very specific
Linda: we have a best practice on relative positioning and we are wondering if we should keep it
josh: I will contact Christine
<kerry> action-138?
<trackbot> action-138 -- Jeremy Tandy to Email public list with homework re dwbp call next week -- due 2016-02-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/138
<kerry> close action-138
<trackbot> Closed action-138.
<kerry> action-140
<trackbot> action-140 -- Armin Haller to Clearly separate observation, sensor, and deployment parts of ssn -- due 2016-02-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/140
<ScottSimmons> RE: relative positioning, perhaps this is akin to some of the types of Anchors in ARML 2.0 (http://docs.opengeospatial.org/is/12-132r4/12-132r4.html#19)
<kerry> close action-139
<trackbot> Closed action-139.
ahaller2: it's been superseded
<kerry> close action-140
<trackbot> Closed action-140.
<kerry> open action-139
<kerry> action-141
<trackbot> action-141 -- Kerry Taylor to Disentangle ssn from dul (this may require adding things to ssn that are needed from dul) -- due 2016-02-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/141
kerry: leaving action 141 open
<kerry> action-143?
<trackbot> action-143 -- Jeremy Tandy to Respond to rob atkinson's comments -- due 2016-02-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/143
roba: this was a discussion about metadata, but it's not well formed as an action. We can just close it
<kerry> close action-143
<trackbot> Closed action-143.
<kerry> close action-146
<trackbot> Closed action-146.
<kerry> action-151?
<trackbot> action-151 -- Joshua Lieberman to Add thoughts about flood prediction to the narrative at https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/bp_narrative -- due 2016-03-30 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/151
josh: i just closed it
<kerry> close ation-152
<kerry> close action-152
<trackbot> Closed action-152.
<kerry> close action-153
<trackbot> Closed action-153.
<kerry> action-158?
<trackbot> action-158 -- Jon Blower to Share egu austria presentations of relevance to us -- due 2016-04-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/158
<billroberts> yes done I htink
<kerry> close action-158
<trackbot> Closed action-158.
<kerry> close action-161
<trackbot> Closed action-161.
<kerry> action-162?
<trackbot> action-162 -- Jeremy Tandy to Break the narrative into discrete elements and create a wiki page of who is developing each part -- due 2016-04-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/162
<kerry> close action-162
<trackbot> Closed action-162.
<kerry> action-164?
Linda: we left the narrative idea, I don't think this action is relevant any more. We plan to split the narrative up and place it throughout the document
<trackbot> action-164 -- Joshua Lieberman to Work on narrative item 7 -- due 2016-05-10 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/164
<kerry> action-165?
<trackbot> action-165 -- Andrea Perego to Add a section about publishing metadata to item nr 4 -- due 2016-05-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/165
Linda: not sure about this one
kerry: was this before the restructuring?
Linda: I'm not comfortable about closing it
<kerry> action-166
<trackbot> action-166 -- Jeremy Tandy to Prioritize data publication over adding usage examples and include list of potential usage examples from email -- due 2016-05-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/166
Linda: I don't know if he did it or not
<kerry> action-169
<trackbot> action-169 -- Jeremy Tandy to Crossref the swbbp with the dwbp to make it a true extension and eliminate duplication -- due 2016-05-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/169
<kerry> close action-169
<trackbot> Closed action-169.
<kerry> action-173
<trackbot> action-173 -- Armin Haller to Write a little more about modul,arisation re currnet state -- due 2016-05-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/173
<kerry> close action-173
<trackbot> Closed action-173.
<kerry> action-174
<trackbot> action-174 -- Armin Haller to Add examples to modularisation -- due 2016-05-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/174
ahaller2: we should keep that open
<kerry> action-179
<trackbot> action-179 -- Danh Le Phuoc to Investigate needs for temporal relations in stream reasoning to consider for owl-time -- due 2016-06-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/179
<ahaller2> 174 is now assigned to SSN
kerry: I'm going to leave that one open
<kerry> action-180
<trackbot> action-180 -- Sefki Kolozali to Check through defintions of intervals in owl-time -- due 2016-06-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/180
kerry: I'm going to send a reminder about that one
<kerry> action-181
<trackbot> action-181 -- Armin Haller to Remove arrow from dul alignment to core on diagram -- due 2016-07-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/181
<kerry> close action-181
<trackbot> Closed action-181.
ahaller2: it can be closed
kerry: I think we can stop
here
... AOB?
... Please watch for versions of documents to review
<billroberts> thanks everyone
<billroberts> (I'll end the webex by the way)
<billroberts> webex ended
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