Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference

<scribe> New webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c968aa0bf3f

<scribe> Topic : Approve last week's minutes

http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-sdw-minutes.html

<jtandy> +1

<Linda> +0 was not there

<roba> +1

<ChrisLittle> +++1

<ClausStadler> +0 (wasn't there+

<SimonCox> jtandy: is that the webex password?

PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes

RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes

sdw simon

<scribe> Topic : Patent Call

https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call

<scribe> Topic : New Publications promotion

<ChrisLittle> I will comment on Rob's Editor last draft for QB4ST

<jtandy> there are no comments on https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-comments/

jtandy: press release ?

<roba> Chris - note I updated it with a significant revision.

eparsons: phil said w3c press release unlikely

linda: talked to geonovum comms person - dutch magazine article planned

<ChrisLittle> +1 for Linda

linda: Next months OGC meeting a good oportunity

<AndreaPerego> Post in W3C space: https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5901

<AndreaPerego> Related tweet: https://twitter.com/w3c/status/790985514400702464

josh: geosemantics sessions planned

<AndreaPerego> My tweet: https://twitter.com/AndreaPere9o/status/791184307582828544

kerry: on w3c home page below the fold
... Irish OS publishing linked data mentioned

eparsons: try reach usual suspects

<joshlieberman_> The feedback has not (cough) been overwhelming so far.

linda: still work in process - danger mislead people based on content so far..

ChrisLittle: will post to linkedin

eparsons: Is it clear how to comment ?

jtandy: yes it is explicit - email link
... good time to provide feedback is the context

<scribe> Topic : Face to Face meeting planning

eparsons: phila would like to have a meeting before xmas

kerry: SSN not likely to come from AUS !
... SSN now having weekly calls to speed up progress

<Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?

<jtandy> suggests 7, 8 or 9 and 15 or 16

<jtandy> (of Dec)

<AndreaPerego> Need to check - not sure I can make it.

Linda 15th/16th ?

Linda Just BP ?

<AndreaPerego> BTW, there's the W3C SDSVoc workshop in Amsterdam on Nov 30 - 1 Dec: https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/

<AndreaPerego> Is anyone going there?

<roba> suspect you could spend two days looking at examples and working out how close they are to the BP ...

jtandy: what do we want to achieve ?
... we spend 3 hours at TPAC on issues - this was very useful...

Linda: F2F more helpful than telecons - not though about what

eparsons: need to decide soon

jtandy: invite coverage people

kerry: Supportive of F2F as it creates focus

AndreaPerego W3C workshop of metadata could be a good option to meet also

eparsons: who could attend 15/16 dec

<Linda> +1

<ChrisLittle> +1

+1

<roba> -1

<AndreaPerego> Need to check.

<jtandy> +1

<kerry> -1 physically, probably virtually

<ClausStadler> uncertain for me

<AndreaPerego> Virtually for sure.

eparsons: I will check London locations

jtandy: Need to ping Bill tomorrow action on ed

<Linda> Geonovum meeting room is available 15th afternoon, 16th whole day

<scribe> Topic : Rob's Dimensions (Rob)

<jtandy> ACTION: eparsons to query new face to face dates with Bill Roberts (15 & 16 Dec) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-216 - Query new face to face dates with bill roberts (15 & 16 dec) [on Ed Parsons - due 2016-11-09].

<AndreaPerego> @roba, could you please post the link in the IRC?

roba: QB$ST comes from datat cube community

<AndreaPerego> Found it: http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/

roba: Data warehouse dimensions not spatial dimensions
... Good time to review doc... is it relevant ?
... rdf data cube conformance therefore an extension
... Until Josh's vocab is ready work arounds needed

joshlieberman: Candidate BP in ogc world can be referenced

roba: Aim for Rec track
... rdf data cube not suitable to specify a crs or temporal reference system for a specific location

<Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to check what ROb means by property

<Zakim> SimonCox, you wanted to ask roba if QB is the right basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which re-uses some of QB patterns?

<Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to ask where Rob sees uptake of this model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it just to provide machine readable metadata?

<jtandy> RobA said earlier: "qb is quite hard to use" ... limited uptake of RDF DataCube ... does the complexity outweigh the utility?

roba: answering jtandy good point - Very general patterns become abstract - nobody uses
... adding "missing" bits of rdf datacube without reinvention

kerry: Supports Roba's approach helpful for EO data

<kerry> bye!

<SimonCox> (Kerry's constraint is probably that some of her work was with students, and Australian academic year is February-November ... )

<AndreaPerego> Sorry, need to leave. Bye!

<jtandy> thanks! bye

bye all

<Linda> bye!