IRC log of sdw on 2016-11-02

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Zakim, this will be SDW
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Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 02 November 2016
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Present+ eparsons
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20161102
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Chair: eparsons
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Regrets: Rachel, Lars, SimonCox
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Regrets: Jon, Bill, Frans, Phil, MattPerry, Bryon, Bart
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present+ kerry
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present+ ClausStadler
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present+ jtandy
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present+
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present+ ChrisLittle
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present+ Linda
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present+ SimonCox
20:06:17 [eparsons]
New webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c968aa0bf3f
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Topic : Approve last week's minutes
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http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-sdw-minutes.html
20:06:54 [jtandy]
+1
20:07:09 [Linda]
+0 was not there
20:07:13 [roba]
+1
20:07:14 [ChrisLittle]
+++1
20:07:14 [ClausStadler]
+0 (wasn't there+
20:07:17 [SimonCox]
jtandy: is that the webex password?
20:07:26 [eparsons]
PROPOSED : Approve last week's minutes
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RESOLUTION : Approve last week's minutes
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sdw simon
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Topic : Patent Call
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https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
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Topic : New Publications promotion
20:08:25 [AndreaPerego]
present+ AndreaPerego
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q+
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ack next
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I will comment on Rob's Editor last draft for QB4ST
20:10:13 [jtandy]
there are no comments on https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-comments/
20:10:17 [Linda]
q+
20:10:33 [eparsons]
jtandy: press release ?
20:10:42 [ChrisLittle]
q+
20:11:01 [roba]
Chris - note I updated it with a significant revision.
20:11:07 [eparsons]
eparsons : phil said w3c press release unlikely
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ack next
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linda: talked to geonovum comms person - dutch magazine article planned
20:11:58 [ChrisLittle]
+1 for Linda
20:12:38 [eparsons]
linda: Next months OGC meeting a good oportunity
20:12:54 [AndreaPerego]
Post in W3C space: https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5901
20:12:56 [kerry]
q+
20:12:59 [AndreaPerego]
Related tweet: https://twitter.com/w3c/status/790985514400702464
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josh: geosemantics sessions planned
20:13:11 [AndreaPerego]
My tweet: https://twitter.com/AndreaPere9o/status/791184307582828544
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ack next
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ack next
20:13:37 [jtandy]
q+
20:13:50 [eparsons]
kerry: on w3c home page below the fold
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kerry : Irish OS publishing linked data mentioned
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ack next
20:15:05 [Linda]
q+
20:15:07 [eparsons]
eparsons : try reach usual suspects
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ack next
20:15:35 [ChrisLittle]
Q+
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The feedback has not (cough) been overwhelming so far.
20:16:24 [eparsons]
linda : still work in process - danger mislead people based on content so far..
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ack next
20:16:50 [jtandy]
q-
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ChrisLittle : will post to linkedin
20:17:37 [eparsons]
eparsons : Is it clear how to comment ?
20:18:04 [eparsons]
jtandy : yes it is explicit - email link
20:19:23 [eparsons]
jtandy : good time to provide feedback is the context
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Topic : Face to Face meeting planning
20:20:31 [kerry]
q+
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eparsons : phila would like to have a meeting before xmas
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kerry : SSN not likely to come from AUS !
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kerry : SSN now having weekly calls to speed up progress
20:22:14 [jtandy]
q+ to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?
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20:22:21 [Zakim]
jtandy, you wanted to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?
20:23:34 [Linda]
q+
20:23:40 [jtandy]
suggests 7, 8 or 9 and 15 or 16
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ack next
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(of Dec)
20:24:11 [AndreaPerego]
Need to check - not sure I can make it.
20:24:27 [eparsons]
Linda 15th/16th ?
20:24:37 [eparsons]
Linda Just BP ?
20:24:42 [kerry]
q+
20:24:47 [AndreaPerego]
BTW, there's the W3C SDSVoc workshop in Amsterdam on Nov 30 - 1 Dec: https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/
20:25:08 [AndreaPerego]
Is anyone going there?
20:25:13 [roba]
suspect you could spend two days looking at examples and working out how close they are to the BP ...
20:25:18 [eparsons]
jtandy : what do we want to achieve ?
20:26:00 [eparsons]
jtandy : we spend 3 hours at TPAC on issues - this was very useful...
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Linda : F2F more helpful than telecons - not though about what
20:27:18 [AndreaPerego]
q+
20:27:21 [eparsons]
eparsons : need to decide soon
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jtandy : invite coverage people
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kerry : Supportive of F2F as it creates focus
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20:29:32 [eparsons]
AndreaPerego W3C workshop of metadata could be a good option to meet also
20:30:29 [eparsons]
eparsons : who could attend 15/16 dec
20:30:31 [Linda]
+1
20:30:32 [ChrisLittle]
+1
20:30:33 [eparsons]
+1
20:30:36 [roba]
-1
20:30:37 [AndreaPerego]
Need to check.
20:30:38 [jtandy]
+1
20:30:48 [kerry]
-1 physically, probably virtually
20:30:53 [ClausStadler]
uncertain for me
20:31:05 [AndreaPerego]
Virtually for sure.
20:31:39 [eparsons]
eparsons : I will check London locations
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jtandy : Need to ping Bill tomorrow action on ed
20:32:38 [Linda]
Geonovum meeting room is available 15th afternoon, 16th whole day
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Topic : Rob's Dimensions (Rob)
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action: eparsons to query new face to face dates with Bill Roberts (15 & 16 Dec)
20:32:48 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-216 - Query new face to face dates with bill roberts (15 & 16 dec) [on Ed Parsons - due 2016-11-09].
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20:34:23 [AndreaPerego]
@roba, could you please post the link in the IRC?
20:34:33 [eparsons]
roba : QB$ST comes from datat cube community
20:35:14 [AndreaPerego]
Found it: http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/
20:35:56 [eparsons]
roba: Data warehouse dimensions not spatial dimensions
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roba: Good time to review doc... is it relevant ?
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roba:rdf data cube conformance therefore an extension
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roba : Until Josh's vocab is ready work arounds needed
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joshlieberman : Candidate BP in ogc world can be referenced
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roba : Aim for Rec track
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roba: rdf data cube not suitable to specify a crs or temporal reference system for a specific location
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q?
20:43:11 [jtandy]
q+ to check what ROb means by property
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20:43:57 [Zakim]
jtandy, you wanted to check what ROb means by property
20:46:03 [SimonCox]
q+ to ask roba if QB is the right basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which re-uses some of QB patterns?
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20:46:50 [Zakim]
SimonCox, you wanted to ask roba if QB is the right basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which re-uses some of QB patterns?
20:47:50 [jtandy]
q+ to ask where Rob sees uptake of this model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it just to provide machine readable metadata?
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q+
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20:57:42 [Zakim]
jtandy, you wanted to ask where Rob sees uptake of this model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it just to provide machine readable metadata?
20:59:16 [jtandy]
RobA: "qb is quite hard to use" ... limited uptake of RDF DataCube ... does the complexity outweigh the utility?
20:59:34 [eparsons]
roba: answering jtandy good point - Very general patterns become abstract - nobody uses
20:59:47 [jtandy]
s/RobA/RobA said earlier/
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roba: adding "missing" bits of rdf datacube without reinvention
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kerry : Supports Roba's approach helpful for EO data
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bye!
21:05:35 [SimonCox]
(Kerry's constraint is probably that some of her work was with students, and Australian academic year is February-November ... )
21:06:44 [AndreaPerego]
Sorry, need to leave. Bye!
21:07:36 [jtandy]
thanks! bye
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bye all
21:07:56 [Linda]
bye!
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