<ShaneM> Regrets ShaneM

<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Oct/0096.html

<scribe> scribe: jamesn

<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Oct/0096.html

News from Rich

RS: retiring from IBM at end of year
... will be continuing in the WG - looking into affiliations etc.
... not leaving web efforts
... continuing with knowbility
... not leaving the group

Status of Meeting with the Director on ARIA CR advancement

<clown> \o/

RS: https://twitter.com/w3c/status/791685843358318592

https://twitter.com/w3c/status/791685843358318592

MC: has been on the home page - and a link on twitter... note to AC. WAI IG list hasn't had note yet

RS: close to getting DPUB ARIA module soon

MC: goal by mid nov

<MichaelC> ARIA 1.1 Candidate Recommendation

<MichaelC> W3C announcement

Logistics end of the year (when will be off and when will start in 2017)

No meetings Thanksgiving, Dec 22 and Dec 29

RS: will be on vacation for a few weeks. MC will be chairing

ARIA 2.0 Triage and ARIA 1.2 requirements

https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/ARIA_2.0_Issue_Triage

<clown> "This page was last modified on 23 September 2016"

Issue-719?

<trackbot> Issue-719 -- Create new ARIA Features to support Drag and Drop -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/719

issue-388?

<trackbot> issue-388 -- Need to add clipboard operations to drag and drop model. -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/388

<MichaelC> HTML 5.1 Drag & Drop

JN: HTML5 has some drag and drop stuff so this fits into the equiavlency

MC: maybe triage as 1.2 with the proviso that it might need to be pushed back

<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/editing.html#drag-and-drop ?

RS: some people are using it at IBM

MC: do we need an APA review of Drag and Drop in 5.1

RS: if APA wants to look at the feature and come back to us about our issues

JS: the maturity question is a reasonable one

JN: prefer to have in 1.2 with and at risk

RS: adding a note - waiting for requirements to have in 1.2 from apa

if no need to address this in 1.2 timeframe will move to 2.0

RS: when do we start looking at 1.2

<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/52

RS: do we want to do PW in 1.2?

<Stefan> +q

JN: we have to if we want parity

<Stefan> -q

MC: I am hearing motivation to discuss in the 1.2 timeframe

<clown> issue-512

<trackbot> issue-512 -- Clean up relatedConcept references; XForms and DAISY could be outdated or otherwise not useful, others as well -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/512

<clown> issue-335

<trackbot> issue-335 -- Consider a breadcrumbs role -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/335

RS: move to aria 2.0

MK: 388 tied to 719

<clown> issue-501

<trackbot> issue-501 -- Allow menuitemcheckbox to have a group parent like menuitemradio and menutiem do when in a menu role -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/501

<clown> issue-634

<trackbot> issue-634 -- Video and audio roles (simple groups, not full functionality apis) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/634

<clown> issue-1050

<trackbot> issue-1050 -- Revisit normative ref to ui events keyboardevent key values when it hits rec -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1050

<clown> issue-55

<trackbot> issue-55 -- Host language should have default mappings to ARIA roles (or vice versa) -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/55

<clown> issue-409

<trackbot> issue-409 -- ARIA 2.0 should consider providing roles that match some or all of the HTML 5 new input types (e.g., color picker, date picker, etc.) -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/409

<clown> issue-539

<trackbot> issue-539 -- aria-valuestep -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/539

<Zakim> clown, you wanted to say there is a @step attr in HTML5

<clown> issue-1049

<trackbot> issue-1049 -- Remove seemingly normative statement in aria-valuemin re: "allows alternate devices to react to arrow keys" -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1049

RS: looks like a manageable list

MC: 2 new issues lists to be aware of

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22ARIA+1.2%22

in cleaning up GH issues - created labels for 1.1,1.2 and 2.0 and moved stuff

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22ARIA+2.0%22

RS: we should move over
... who can take an action to move the issues to GH

MC: not something that will happen right away

<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to migrate issues from Tracker to GitHub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-aria-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2127 - Migrate issues from tracker to github [on Michael Cooper - due 2016-11-03].

clown: could be lazy and move as we discuss them

MK: seems reasonable

MC: if people want to do that then fine
... links to APG - can APG keep up

MK: think should keep the action to do that
... widgets and landmarks are our priority

JN: if we do put something like Blockquotes in it would be very lightweight sections

Testable Statements (Coordination), test case Authoring, and automation

waiting for UIautomation and mac mappings

shane is going to do the bridge from IA2

RS: have 1 for MSAA not for that though.
... Joanie has linux one working

JD: mozilla has been fixing some of the 1.1 fails so there will be more passes soon

I haven't added the new realsitons to ATK yet - but will get to it soon

SVG2, DPUB-ARIA Accessibility Update

RS: anything to cover

Tzviya: when get mappings good to go

RS: we have dependency to KB events... we don't care what the values are - we will follow them
... they took out space - but we have addressed that

ok

they won't get it done in our timeframe

MC: will have difficulty but not going to give up on it yet

RS: SVG2 - that TF has not met yet

essentially the SVG2 spec went to CR - the browsers are looking at what should come out as they don't want everything

the intent is to get SVG2 done... will affect minimally the mappings guide

FE has been chairing the TF... had connectivity issues accessing IRC from the job.... suggested to do it on a mobile device

have not met in a few weeks

automation of the test harness will help with SVG2

MK: seems instead of labels for things we could consider using milestones to organize issues

MC: was doing what was quick and easy

+1 to milestones

MC: discuss at next editors proposal

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