Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

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<trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 22 January 2016

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<trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 22 January 2016

<Yaso> Hi all

<Yaso> I'm having problemas with Webex (chrome is in an old version)

<Yaso> Please, give me more 3 min

<deirdrelee> scribe: Caroline

<deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/01/15-dwbp-minutes

<newton> +1

<deirdrelee> +1

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

<ericstephan> +1

+0 I wasn't present

<annette_g> +1

<antoine> +1

<laufer> hi, +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<laufer> webex is askink for a host room ID

<ericstephan> ouch antoine

<deirdrelee> APPROVED: Approve last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/01/15-dwbp-minutes

<laufer> I put xGbzp445 - did not work

<deirdrelee> chair: Yaso

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer, Meeting number: 645 096 989

Yaso: we have to vote on the publication of DUV

<Yaso> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

<ericstephan> welcome sumit!

<Yaso> akc ericstephan

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> deirdrelee, so is the password wrong on the IRC topic?

<laufer> Ok, Joao Paulo

<laufer> I am in

ericstephan: thanks João Paulo for raising issues
... Laufer also shared good things

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> no problem, ericstephan, thanks for your work.

ericstephan: what we have is the lasted corrections
... the most substantion changes is based on the ontology feedback
... one of the authors ?? has helping us

<ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/publishing-snapshots/WD-duv-for-vote-2016-01-22/vocab-du.html

ericstephan: the document was frozen, I didn't make any changes
... Phil added somethings in the example
... the only thing that it is changed in this copy is example 3 for the model

<Yaso> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750

Yaso: the history of the commits in the document are in Github

ericstephan: the main branch nothing is changed
... before the vote on DUV for publication how does it work?

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> ericstephan, I did miss an issue I raised concerning the description of duv:RatingFeedback

ericstephan: I am not sure if I disrupt the process with these changes

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to yaso, no problem

Yaso: I don't think you disrupted the process with these small changes
... the group must agree on voting or not

deirdrelee: ericstephan, did you fix only typos?

ericstephan: yes

<annette_g> maybe the procedure should be to point out the actual changes

ericstephan: only typos
... João Paulo said there is a issue he raised but he didn't see it on the document

JoaoPauloAlmeida: I can send it again, but it is minor

<Yaso> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750

Yaso: annette_g is wondering if we may point to the changes

<ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/publishing-snapshots/WD-duv-for-vote-2016-01-22/vocab-du.html

Yaso: they are here https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750
... are you ok to vote it?

annette_g: I would like to see us getting better unless of making changes before voting

<BernadetteLoscio> +q

annette_g: I take it as a lesson that it is important to let people know about the changes and when it is frozen don't make anymore changes

BernadetteLoscio: the changes were not in the document itself but in the description of the vocabulary
... if I understood correct the changes are in the turtle version of the vocabulary

ericstephan: I would like to add that annette_g point is really well taken and it is up to the WG
... the only change that happen in the document is to the example itself

<laufer> I cannot see a rdf version of the vocabulary... It seems to me that the changes are in the examples... the ttl of the examples... Is that correct, Eric?

ericstephan: if we wnat ot be true to the frozen document

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer, yes, he means examples

ericstephan: one example in the actual document has changed
... if we need to wait a week we can do that

Yaso: I appreciate your comments and understand your concern

annette_g: I have no problem voting at this point

<annette_g> I'm fine with the current changes and voting

deirdrelee: if the changes are a problem I would suggest to exclude them and vote this week
... if everyone agree on voting let's vote

laufer: I think we are discussing about the examples. The examples section there is a note saying that they have to be updated
... I don't see a problem with the examples
... we have a note that says they have to be updated

Yaso: I don't think we have any opposition to vote the DUV document today
... we have to have more attention with the process, but there is no opposition on voting the DUV document

<BernadetteLoscio> +q

<annette_g> yes

<Yaso> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

BernadetteLoscio: there is no changes on the github, is that correct ericstephan?

<laufer> \me not at all, Caroline

<annette_g> there is a diff, though ??

BernadetteLoscio: are we keeping the examples as they are in the github or are we changing as they are in the email?

<deirdrelee> +1

s/\me not at all, Caroline

Yaso: the github is updated

ericstephan: BernadetteLoscio is correct, the examples were sent by email
... the DUV document has only been updated for typos

deirdrelee: I have to jjump out this call and there is no way we can vote on something that is not on the github

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> (not last week, but Monday, right)

deirdrelee: let's just keep it clean to what it is, but anything that is not in the github should not be inclued

BernadetteLoscio: the typos were corrected only in the ttl version of the vocabulary
... ericstephan only changed the vocabulary, which is another file

<ericstephan> thank you for the clarification Berna

Yaso: thank you for the clarifications
... we can vote on the documents

antoine: only typos were made, right?

ericstephan: the new examples will be introduced later
... I am cheking right now

<Yaso> s/wirte/write

antoine: if there is a note I am ok voting

<antoine> My question was: is there a misalignment between the ttl voc and the main document examples? Is it only about typos?

<laufer> We do not have a ttl of the voc, antoine

PROPOSED: voting the DUV document to publication http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

<annette_g> * Isn't it PROPOSEd?

PROPOSED: voting the DUV document to publication http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
... publishing the DUV document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

<annette_g> +1

<Yaso> +1

<BernadetteLoscio> +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<laufer> +1

+1

<ericstephan> +1

<SumitPurohit> +1

RESOLUTION: to publish DUV..

<laufer> antoine?

<annette_g> *RESOLVED?

RESOLUTION: to publish the DUV document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

<antoine> +1

<newton> +1

<annette_g> *clap clap*

<laufer> congrats eric, bernadette, sumit

<Yaso> great!

<riccardoAlbertoni> congrats !

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> good work editors, I have to go now, bye to all!

congrats!!! :)

<BernadetteLoscio> Congratulations!!!

<ericstephan> thank you again JoaoPauloAlmeida !

<laufer> bye, Joao Paulo

<BernadetteLoscio> thanks you Joao Paulo!!!

<ericstephan> yea!!

<BernadetteLoscio> thanks a lot Eric!!!

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> thx bye!

Yaso: the next item in the agenda is BP - Plan for CR Review Plan to publish BP Document as Candidate Rec before Zagreb F2F 17 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product 10 Open Comments https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/?status=open

<BernadetteLoscio> :)

https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Plan_for_CR

<newton> Caroline: BernadetteLoscio, newton and I were togheter this week

<Yaso> Caroline: BernadetteLoscio, Newton and I are working in the timetable

<Yaso> ops tks newton

<newton> ... and we could work on the BP Timetable for the CR

<Yaso> scribe newton

<Yaso> scribe: newton

scribe: on this link https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Plan_for_CR we have the milestone and the target dates
... it's open for comments and changes, so if you all could see it
... it would be great if the group could help us to send messages asking for community's feedback
... to make easier to understanding it we have sorted the table
... phil and hadley already commented that UK gov could implement some BPs, and in São Paulo we have a case to implement BPs as well
... the ideia is to resolve the open issues about data access before February 15th
... we have a lot of thing to do before Feb 12
... when the comments and issues are resolved, we will ask for more community's feedback
... that's the timetable we have for now, and your comments are welcome

<Yaso> akc newton

<scribe> scribe: Caroline

<riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule

Yaso: next topic on the agenda DQV - Plan for Final Publication Review Plan to publish final DQV Note before Zagreb F2F 15 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product

<Yaso> scribe: Caroline

riccardoAlbertoni: this link has a timetable https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule
... we tried to put all the activities that we decided in the last call

<Yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule

riccardoAlbertoni: we would like to know if the rest of the group is okay with it
... we will continue to address the issue until the end of February
... the main issue to be addressed is on the section Key work required
... we are in a situation that there are 2 diferent points of view
... it is dificult to make a decision
... there is a second category of issues
... there are 3 main categories that we have to address
... it has to be done until the end of February
... so we can finish at the F2F meeting
... at the end of March we would like to vote it
... there is the plan, is there any specific comments?

Yaso: I think is something the group could read during the week and could comment by email
... next topi on the agenda DUV - Plan for Final Publication Review Plan to publish final DUV Note before Zagreb F2F 8 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product

ericstephan: at this point we don't have a plan because we were spending our energy on the voted draft
... we can put something together for the next week

Yaso: update on the attendance to Zagreb https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/ZagrebF2F
... I kindly ask you to put your participation on the wiki page

antoine: before this call we talked about our issues, but I may have one issue related to DUV
... there is an old issue that we should use DCAT or not

<antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/179

antoine: we made a resolution a long time ago https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/179
... that DUV should use
... I wanted to know if we can change this resolution and move on to DQV?
... it would be easier when I could be remotly on the call of Zagreb if we have a specific agenda

Yaso: we would first need to decide on antoine's question
... someone wants to comnent/

s///?

BernadetteLoscio: is the question if DUV should use DCAT namespace or not?

<ericstephan> +1 BernadetteLoscio

BernadetteLoscio: now we are not using the DCAT namespace but we haven't discussed it after the resolution

antoine: I am fine with this but I don't want to have someone complaning that we did not implement it

BernadetteLoscio: I am not sure if we are going to use, I think we will not use it. But we can discuss it and come back to it by emil or the next meeting. Thank you antoine to bringing it back

ericstephan: antoine are you concerned that there is no formal implementation

antoine: I wanted to make sure we are aware of it and if we made the right resolution and if we made we forgot about it!

<annette_g> right

Yaso: we are going to work on the next F2F agenda
... thank you everyone! phila do you want to add something?

<laufer> bye all... nice weekend!!!

phila: no! I am sorry I came late!

bye bye!

<Yaso> bye!

<annette_g> bye folks!

<ericstephan> thank you all!

<newton> bye!

<BernadetteLoscio> thanks

<BernadetteLoscio> bye

<laufer> congrats duv editors!!!

<riccardoAlbertoni> bye!

<ericstephan> thank you phila