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13:58:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:58:11 <trackbot> Date: 22 January 2016
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14:02:17 <Yaso> Hi all
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14:02:35 <Yaso> I'm having problemas with Webex (chrome is in an old version)
14:02:40 <ericstephan> present+ ericstephan
14:02:42 <Yaso> Please, give me more 3 min
14:02:45 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee
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14:04:39 <deirdrelee> scribe: Caroline
14:04:47 <deirdrelee> chair: deirdrelee
14:04:58 <laufer> present+ laufer
14:05:08 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/01/15-dwbp-minutes
14:05:08 <Caroline> present+ Caroline
14:05:14 <newton> +1
14:05:18 <deirdrelee> +1
14:05:19 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:05:20 <ericstephan> +1
14:05:23 <Caroline> +0 I wasn't present
14:05:23 <annette_g> +1
14:05:24 <antoine> +1
14:05:25 <laufer> hi, +1
14:05:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
14:05:40 <laufer> webex is askink for a host room ID
14:05:44 <ericstephan> ouch antoine
14:05:49 <deirdrelee> APPROVED: Approve last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/01/15-dwbp-minutes
14:06:03 <laufer> I put  xGbzp445 - did not work
14:06:38 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20160122
14:06:38 <Yaso> present+ yaso
14:06:41 <deirdrelee> chair: Yaso
14:06:54 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer, Meeting number: 645 096 989
14:06:57 <Caroline> Yaso: we have to vote on the publication of DUV
14:06:58 <Yaso> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:07:21 <ericstephan> welcome sumit!
14:07:37 <ericstephan> q+
14:07:37 <deirdrelee> q+
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14:07:46 <Yaso> ack deirdrelee
14:07:51 <Yaso> q?
14:08:03 <Yaso> akc ericstephan
14:08:13 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> deirdrelee, so is the password wrong on the IRC topic?
14:08:18 <laufer> Ok, Joao Paulo
14:08:26 <laufer> I am in
14:08:26 <Caroline> ericstephan: thanks João Paulo for raising issues
14:08:37 <Caroline> ... Laufer also shared good things
14:08:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> no problem, ericstephan, thanks for your work.
14:09:00 <Caroline> ... what we have is the lasted corrections
14:09:19 <Caroline> ... the most substantion changes is based on the ontology feedback
14:09:30 <Caroline> ... one of the authors ?? has helping us
14:09:43 <ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/publishing-snapshots/WD-duv-for-vote-2016-01-22/vocab-du.html
14:09:54 <Caroline> ... the document was frozen, I didn't make any changes
14:10:05 <Caroline> ... Phil added somethings in the example
14:10:29 <Caroline> ... the only thing that it is changed in this copy is example 3 for the model
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14:10:49 <Yaso> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750
14:10:57 <Yaso> q?
14:11:02 <Caroline> Yaso: the history of the commits in the document are in Github
14:11:02 <Yaso> ack ericstephan
14:11:14 <Caroline> ericstephan: the main branch nothing is changed
14:11:37 <Caroline> ... before the vote on DUV for publication how does it work?
14:11:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ericstephan, I did miss an issue I raised concerning the description of duv:RatingFeedback
14:11:54 <BernadetteLoscio> present+ BernadetteLoscio
14:12:35 <Caroline> ... I am not sure if I disrupt the process with these changes
14:12:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to yaso, no problem
14:12:50 <deirdrelee> q+
14:12:51 <Caroline> Yaso: I don't think you disrupted the process with these small changes
14:12:59 <Yaso> ack deirdrelee
14:13:01 <Caroline> ... the group must agree on voting or not
14:13:16 <Caroline> deirdrelee: ericstephan, did you fix only typos?
14:13:18 <Caroline> ericstephan: yes
14:13:26 <annette_g> maybe the procedure should be to point out the actual changes
14:13:53 <Caroline> ...  only typos
14:13:59 <Yaso> q?
14:14:00 <deirdrelee> q?
14:14:17 <Caroline> ericstephan: João Paulo said there is a issue he raised but he didn't see it on the document
14:14:33 <Caroline> JoaoPauloAlmeida: I can send it again, but it is minor
14:15:04 <Yaso> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750
14:15:05 <Caroline> Yaso: annette_g is wondering if we may point to the changes
14:15:12 <ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/publishing-snapshots/WD-duv-for-vote-2016-01-22/vocab-du.html
14:15:21 <Caroline> ... they are here https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/e366eb00db1ee5f50471257fa59684618dfae750
14:16:04 <Yaso> ack annette_g
14:16:10 <Caroline> Yaso: are you ok to vote it?
14:16:34 <Caroline> annette_g: I would like to see us getting better unless of making changes before voting
14:17:13 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
14:17:15 <ericstephan> q+
14:17:19 <Caroline> ... I take it as a lesson that it is important to let people know about the changes and when it is frozen don't make anymore changes
14:17:21 <Yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio
14:17:45 <Caroline> BernadetteLoscio: the changes were not in the document itself but in the description of the vocabulary
14:17:58 <Yaso> ack ericstephan
14:18:00 <Caroline> ... if I understood correct the changes are in the turtle version of the vocabulary
14:18:21 <Caroline> ericstephan: I would like to add that annette_g point is really well taken and it is up to the WG
14:18:25 <annette_g> q+
14:18:33 <Caroline> ... the only change that happen in the document is to the example itself
14:18:50 <laufer> I cannot see a rdf version of the vocabulary... It seems to me that the changes are in the examples...  the ttl of the examples...  Is that correct, Eric?
14:18:53 <Caroline> ... if we wnat ot be true to the frozen document
14:19:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer, yes, he means examples
14:19:10 <Caroline> ... one example in the actual document has changed
14:19:20 <Yaso> q?
14:19:26 <deirdrelee> q+
14:19:36 <Caroline> ... if we need to wait a week we can do that
14:19:51 <laufer> q+
14:20:15 <Yaso> ack annette_g
14:20:20 <Caroline> Yaso: I appreciate your comments and understand your concern
14:20:31 <Yaso> ack deirdrelee
14:20:33 <Caroline> annette_g: I have no problem voting at this point
14:20:59 <annette_g> I'm fine with the current changes and voting
14:21:01 <Caroline> deirdrelee: if the changes are a problem I would suggest to exclude them and vote this week
14:21:10 <Caroline> ... if everyone agree on voting let's vote
14:21:12 <Yaso> ack laufer
14:21:41 <Caroline> laufer: I think we are discussing about the examples. The examples section there is a not saying that they have to be updated
14:21:48 <Caroline> ... I don't see a problem with the examples
14:22:00 <Caroline> ... we have a note that says they have to be updated
14:22:22 <Caroline> Yaso: I don't think we have any opposition to vote the DUV document today
14:22:54 <Caroline> Yaso: we have to have more attention with the process, but there is no opposition on voting the DUV document
14:23:09 <Yaso> q?
14:23:11 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
14:23:14 <Yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio
14:23:15 <laufer> s/is a not/is a note/
14:23:44 <annette_g> yes
14:23:53 <Yaso> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:24:30 <Caroline> BernadetteLoscio: there is no changes on the github, is that correct ericstephan?
14:24:54 <laufer> \me not at all, Caroline
14:24:55 <annette_g> there is a diff, though ??
14:25:21 <Caroline> ... are we keeping the examples as they are in the github or are we changing as they are in the email?
14:25:32 <deirdrelee> +1
14:25:34 <Caroline> s/\me not at all, Caroline
14:25:59 <Yaso> q?
14:26:00 <Caroline> Yaso: the github is updated
14:26:19 <Caroline> ericstephan: BernadetteLoscio is correct, the examples were sent by email
14:26:36 <deirdrelee> q+
14:26:37 <Caroline> ... the DUV document has only been updated for typos
14:26:59 <Yaso> ack deirdrelee
14:27:09 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
14:27:20 <Caroline> deirdrelee: I have to jjump out this call and there is no way we can vote on something that is not on the github
14:27:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> (not last week, but Monday, right)
14:27:35 <Yaso> q?
14:27:39 <Yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio
14:27:41 <Caroline> ... let's just keep it clean to what it is, but anything that is not in the github should not be inclued
14:27:56 <Caroline> BernadetteLoscio: the typos were corrected only in the 3rd version of the vocabulary
14:28:06 <Caroline> ... ericstephan only changed the vocabulary, which is another file
14:28:13 <antoine> q+
14:28:15 <ericstephan> thank you for the clarification Berna
14:28:18 <Caroline> Yaso: thank you for the clarifications
14:28:26 <Yaso> ack antoine
14:28:28 <Caroline> ... we can vote on the documents
14:28:56 <Yaso> ack ericstephan
14:29:07 <laufer> s/3rd version/ttl version/
14:29:30 <Caroline> antoine: only typos were made, right?
14:29:41 <Caroline> ericstephan: the new examples will be introduced later
14:30:02 <Caroline> ... I am cheking right now
14:30:06 <Yaso> s/wirte/write
14:30:28 <Caroline> antoine: if there is a note I am ok voting
14:30:31 <Yaso> q?
14:30:57 <antoine> My question was: is there a misalignment between the ttl voc and the main document examples? Is it only about typos?
14:31:21 <laufer> We do not have a ttl of the voc, antoine
14:31:29 <Caroline> PROPOSAL: voting the DUV document to publication http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:31:34 <annette_g> * Isn't it PROPSED?
14:31:42 <annette_g> s/PROPSED/PROPOSEd
14:31:53 <Caroline> s/PROPOSAL/PROPOSED
14:32:04 <Caroline> PROPOSED: voting the DUV document to publication http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:32:37 <Caroline> PROPOSED: publishing the DUV document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:32:45 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:32:46 <annette_g> +1
14:32:47 <Yaso> +1
14:32:50 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
14:32:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
14:32:53 <laufer> +1
14:32:53 <Caroline> +1
14:32:54 <ericstephan> +1
14:32:55 <SumitPurohit> +1
14:33:16 <Yaso> RESOLUTION: to publish DUV..
14:33:18 <laufer> antoine?
14:33:24 <annette_g> *RESOLVED?
14:33:26 <Caroline> RESOLVED: to publish the DUV document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
14:33:35 <antoine> +1
14:33:55 <newton> +1
14:34:01 <annette_g> *clap clap*
14:34:03 <laufer> congrats eric, bernadette, summit
14:34:05 <Yaso> great!
14:34:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> congrats !
14:34:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> good work editors, I have to go now, bye to all!
14:34:12 <Caroline> congrats!!! :)
14:34:18 <BernadetteLoscio> Congratulations!!!
14:34:26 <ericstephan> thank you again JoaoPauloAlmeida !
14:34:33 <laufer> bye, Joao Paulo
14:34:36 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks you Joao Paulo!!!
14:34:39 <ericstephan> yea!!
14:34:40 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks a lot Eric!!!
14:34:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> thx bye!
14:34:48 <Caroline> Yaso: the next item in the agenda is BP - Plan for CR      Review Plan to publish BP Document as Candidate Rec before Zagreb F2F     17 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product     10 Open Comments https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/?status=open
14:35:30 <Yaso> q?
14:35:38 <Caroline> q+
14:35:39 <newton> q+
14:35:47 <Yaso> ack Caroline
14:35:54 <BernadetteLoscio> :)
14:36:03 <Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Plan_for_CR
14:36:04 <newton> Caroline: BernadetteLoscio, newton and I were togheter this week
14:36:06 <Yaso> Caroline: BernadetteLoscio, Newton and I are working in the timetable
14:36:12 <Yaso> ops tks newton
14:36:16 <newton> ... and we could work on the BP Timetable for the CR
14:36:17 <Yaso> scribe newton
14:36:21 <Yaso> scribe: newton
14:36:36 <laufer> s/summit/sumit/
14:36:38 <newton> ... on this link https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Plan_for_CR we have the milestone and the target dates
14:36:59 <newton> ... it's open for comments and changes, so if you all could see it
14:37:26 <newton> ... it would be great if the group could help us to send messages asking for community's feedback
14:37:51 <newton> ... to make easier to understanding it we have sorted the table
14:38:24 <newton> ... phil and hadley already commented that UK gov could implement some BPs, and in São Paulo we have a case to implement BPs as well
14:38:45 <newton> ... the ideia is to resolve the open issues about data access before February 15th
14:38:46 <Yaso> q?
14:39:10 <newton> ... we have a lot of thing to do before Feb 12
14:40:14 <newton> ... when the comments and issues are resolved, we will ask for more community's feedback
14:40:31 <Yaso> q?
14:40:36 <newton> ... that's the timetable we have for now, and your comments are welcome
14:40:38 <newton> q-
14:40:39 <Yaso> akc newton
14:40:51 <Yaso> q?
14:41:06 <newton> scribe: Caroline
14:41:27 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule
14:41:38 <Caroline> Yaso: next topic on the agenda DQV - Plan for Final Publication      Review Plan to publish final DQV Note before Zagreb F2F     15 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product
14:41:39 <Yaso> scribe: Caroline
14:41:58 <Caroline> riccardoAlbertoni: this link has a timetable https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule
14:42:21 <Caroline> ... we tried to put all the activities that we decided in the last call
14:42:36 <Yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule
14:42:40 <Caroline> ... we would like to know if the rest of the group is okay with it
14:43:37 <Caroline> ... we will continue to address the issue until the end of February
14:44:27 <Caroline> ... the main issue to be addressed is on the section Key work required
14:44:58 <Caroline> ... we are in a situation that there are 2 diferent points of view
14:45:04 <Caroline> ... it is dificult to make a decision
14:45:25 <Caroline> .... there is a second category of issues
14:45:35 <Caroline> ... there are 3 main categories that we have to address
14:45:45 <Caroline> ... it has to be done until the end of February
14:45:55 <Caroline> ... so we can finish at the F2F meeting
14:46:16 <Caroline> ... at the end of March we would like to vote it
14:46:17 <Yaso> q?
14:46:28 <Caroline> ... there is the plan, is there any specific comments?
14:46:54 <Caroline> Yaso: I think is something the group could read during the week and could comment by email
14:47:36 <Caroline> ... next topi on the agenda      DUV - Plan for Final Publication         Review Plan to publish final DUV Note before Zagreb F2F         8 Open Issues https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product
14:47:56 <Caroline> ericstephan: at this point we don't have a plan because we were spending our energy on the voted draft
14:48:07 <Caroline> ... we can put something together for the next week
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14:48:36 <Caroline> Yaso: update on the attendance to Zagreb https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/ZagrebF2F
14:49:00 <antoine> q+
14:49:04 <Yaso> ack antoine
14:49:06 <Caroline> ... I kindly ask you to put your participation on the wiki page
14:49:21 <annette_g> q+
14:49:30 <Caroline> antoine: before this call we talked about our issues, but I may have one issue related to DUV
14:49:45 <Caroline> ... there is an old issue that we should use DCAT or not
14:49:48 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/179
14:49:59 <Caroline> ... we made a resolution a long time ago https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/179
14:50:07 <Yaso> q?
14:50:10 <Caroline> ... that DUC should use
14:50:33 <Yaso> ack annette_g
14:50:36 <Caroline> ... I wanted to know if we can change this resolution and move on to DQV?
14:50:59 <laufer> s/DUC/DUV/
14:51:12 <Caroline> antoine: it would be easier when I could be remotly on the call of Zagreb if we have a specific agenda
14:51:32 <Caroline> Yaso: we would first need to decide on antoine's question
14:51:37 <Yaso> q?
14:51:39 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
14:51:43 <Yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio
14:51:46 <Caroline> ... someone wants to comnent/
14:51:51 <Caroline> s///?
14:52:15 <Caroline> BernadetteLoscio: is the question if DUV should use DCAT namespace or not?
14:52:26 <ericstephan> +1 BernadetteLoscio
14:52:37 <Caroline> ... now we are not using the DCAT namespace but we haven't discussed it after the resolution
14:52:51 <Yaso> q?
14:52:58 <Caroline> antoine: I am fine with this but I don't want to have someone complaning that we did not implement it
14:53:14 <ericstephan> q+
14:53:24 <Yaso> ack ericstephan
14:53:35 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:53:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/22-dwbp-minutes.html phila
14:53:35 <Caroline> BernadetteLoscio: I am not sure if we are going to use, I think we will not use it. But we can discuss it and come back to it by emil or the next meeting. Thank you antoine to bringing it back
14:53:52 <Caroline> ericstephan: antoine are you concerned that there is no formal implementation
14:54:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/22-dwbp-minutes.html phila
14:54:24 <Caroline> antoine: I wanted to make sure we are aware of it and if we made the right resolution and if we made we forgot about it!
14:54:46 <annette_g> right
14:55:06 <Caroline> Yaso: we are going to work on the next F2F agenda
14:55:24 <Caroline> ... thank you everyone! phila do you want to add something?
14:55:33 <laufer> bye all...  nice weekend!!!
14:55:33 <Caroline> phila: no! I am sorry I came late!
14:55:38 <Caroline> bye bye!
14:55:40 <Yaso> bye!
14:55:43 <annette_g> bye folks!
14:55:45 <ericstephan> thank you all!
14:55:46 <newton> bye!
14:55:48 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks
14:55:49 <BernadetteLoscio> bye
14:55:49 <laufer> congrats duv editors!!!
14:55:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye!
14:55:53 <ericstephan> thank you phila
14:55:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/22-dwbp-minutes.html phila
14:55:58 <SumitPurohit> thank you all !
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