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<trackbot> Date: 01 April 2015
Lynn, code 76244
Lloyd_Fassett: i change my
contract and may need to give up on some IG
responsibilities
... I still will contribute to Profiles work, especially about
people's work
<lehawes> Congrats on the new contract, Lloyd! Bad news from us, but great for you. Hope you can stay involved with the IG at some level.
<Lynn> oops, my call dropped, i will join again
<AnnB> darn Lynn
<scribe> scribe: elf-pavlik
<scribe> scribenick: elf-pavlik
http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-socialig-minutes.html
AnnB, PROPOSED accept minutes from March 4th
RESOLVE: accepted minutes from March 4th
topics: Introducing Lynn Foster
<lehawes> I concur on accepting minutes from March 4 meeting
Lynn: in IT since 1980-sh mostly
doing contract work and independent contracting
... i've don't a lot of modeling stuff, currently retired but
working on Open Srouce software
... with my partner Bob Haugen developing Open Value Accounting
software
... love modeling
<lehawes> Lynn: Sounds like you're a great fit for our group and initiative. Welcome!
<Lynn> Thanks!
AnnB, luck to have you joined us
scribe: we've been going for few
months but now we actually get started
... we work in support for Social Working Group
Lynn: I never participated in W3C groups before
<lehawes> AnnB: Geek whisperer? ;>)
AnnB: WG has recommendation track to come up with standards for data model, api and federation
AdamB, hi o/
AnnB: Lynn any chance you will join us for next face2face? https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-05-04
Lynn: very unlikely because of travel
<lehawes> Lynn: Where are you in WI? I grew up in Whitewater.
<Lynn> I'm near La Farge, SW Driftless area
AnnB: Jason from xAPI not on a call, but we'll wait with introtuction for when he joins our call
<lehawes> Lynn: Cool. Have heard of it, but never been there.
AnnB: rhiaro, very active in WG, asked if we could change telecon time
<AnnB> https://doodle.com/3iy3kwegq2pnmngd
AnnB: she created a pool to pick
dates https://doodle.com/3iy3kwegq2pnmngd
... challange starts to find time convienient for Europe and
west coast americas
... Lloyd_Fassett hopefully it will work for you on a west
coast
elf-pavlik: maybe we can try to do it in 3 min right now?
http://doodle.com/3iy3kwegq2pnmngd
AnnB: looks like the most
important thing we can do now
... WG has 90 User Stories and needs our help to clarify many
of them
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Sorting_user_stories
AnnB: we agreed that as IG we
will start with stories staring with those which have Minor
Objections
... and help clarifying those objections
... lehawes sent out email that everyone addopts a story and
starts with helping to clarify objections
lehawes: exactly AnnB
... elf already started reaching out to people from one
story
... I reached out to people with objections about group
stories
... i will explaint this story as an example of what you said
about wording issues
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#Groups
lehawes: Kevin objected that
someone can delete the whole group
... I proposed adding certain new working clarify this
feature
AnnB: I didn't have time this week to get to this
<scribe> ... new to github and excited about it
lehawes, don't worry so far just elf and I picked stories and started working on them
https://github.com/w3c-social/soc-ucr/issues/3
<Lynn> You can add labels to your issue in github
lehawes: one can just assign oneself to story you work on
<lehawes> Please do add yourself to github, choose a user story to work on, and create the issue. The actual work of resolving the issue by contacting objectors and conversing with them does NOT take that long!
<lehawes> It's something you can do in small chunks of free time. :>)
<AdamB> i have an account
AdamB, your handle?
<AdamB> aboyet@gmail.com
<AdamB> aboyet
<AdamB> try that
AdamB, https://github.com/aboyet
<AdamB> yep
AnnB: sorting out accounts etc. one but now we need to get going on those use cases
lehawes: yes, we just need to do it!
AnnB: several different angles on this
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Vocabulary_TF#Mapping_API_User_Stories_to_Vocabulary_terms
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Vocabulary_TF/Mapping_API_User_Stories_to_Vocabulary_terms
<lehawes> elf-pavlik: I just accepted your github organization invitation and updated the "Groups" issue by assigning it to myself and labeling it as a "User Story". Thanks!
<AnnB> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Sorting_user_stories#Entirely_Positive
AnnB: one of issues may relate to
overwhelming number of stories - 90
... i put a table there and put emphasis on main action
... maybe we can add colum and add vocabulary term there
<lehawes> AnnB: did you get feedback on your table from anyone in the WG? They will be the main consumers.
<AnnB> no
<AnnB> I should ask again
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#User_posts_a_note
<AnnB> lehawes: making sure we're referencing Activity Streams 2.0 terms
<AnnB> elf-pavlik: yes, that's what I'm referencing with as:<term> links
ISSUE: does friend == two way follow?
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-3 - Does friend == two way follow?. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/Social/InterestGroup/track/issues/3/edit>.
<AnnB> elf-pavlik: ... <explanation of how vocabulary works>
<AnnB> ... he extracted terms from User Story 2.2: person, note, follow, post (an action), edit <action>, delete <action>
<AnnB> EdK: asked the question about is "friend" really a 2-way follow?
Lloyd_Fassett: I miss Link Data
perspective to it
... looks like we don't have vocabulary to talk about some
interactions
AnnB: that reminds me a question
I had for aspargous
... we find Demand but in english I would use Request
... Demand sounds very demanding
Lynn: I see it like in economic terms supply / demand
AnnB: if we have term called Request
Lynn: we could look for better term
<AnnB> Everyone:
<AnnB> 1. fill out doodle poll .. need better time
<lehawes> No new business from me. Just encourage everyone to pick a user story with minor objections and work to overcome those with the people who raised them.
<AnnB> 2. select user story that has minor objections ... help resolve
<AnnB> 3. help extract vocabulary from user stories
elf-pavlik: will send out email about two step process for extracting terms 1) extract (someone) 2) veryfing (someone else)
AnnB: thanks everybody, welcome
once again Lynn
... let's get the work done this week
<lehawes> Thanks everyone! Have a good week.
<AnnB> trackbot, end meeting
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