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HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

08 Jan 2015

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Attendees

Present
Chaals, Janina, PaulC, MarkS, Léonie, Adrian, JoanMarie, Judy, JohnF
Regrets
Chair
Janina
Scribe
chaals

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 08 January 2015

Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

<janina> Hmmm, how about the Hebrew calendar? <grin>

<janina> So far, just yours truly on the phone ...

<scribe> scribe: chaals

<scribe> Meeting: HTML Accessibiity TF

<scribe> Chair: Janina

Media Subteam Update -- John, Shane, Janina

Media Subteam.

JS: Believe our Media Accessibility User Requirements document is ready.

… 4 or 5 years old, been through review, most recently from august version we received various comments.

… Comments have been resolved in latest draft, ready to call for comments, and if there is nothing more to do we should publish the document as a Note under PF.

<janina> Final Draft: http://w3c.github.io/pfwg/media-accessibility-reqs/

<janina> Comment Responses: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/MAUR_Comment_Processing_2

JB: Talked to Josh from SKERI, was interested to hear about the document, may have some stuff that might intersect with it.

<scribe> ACTION: Judy to point Josh from Smith Kettlewell to the MUAR document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-295 - Point josh from smith kettlewell to the muar document [on Judy Brewer - due 2015-01-15].

action-295 due 2015-01-10

<trackbot> Set action-295 Point josh from smith kettlewell to the muar document due date to 2015-01-10.

JS: It is a complicated document, requiring expertise in various areas.

… would be great if Josh can join us on Monday.

… Unlikely to publish before February in any case.

Canvas

MS: Been hard to meet recently, we've continued to clean up testing documentation - work to be done still but we are making progress.

… Need to complete Test Suite before we move forward.

JS: Is there a regular meeting time set?

MS: 3pm Fridays, Boston time.

JS: Email traffic is on a separate list, right? Nor is it part of this TF but part of HTML WG - now a sibling instead of child…

open actions

<janina> http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track

action-136

<trackbot> action-136 -- John Foliot to Describe the issues of controls vs. no controls -- due 2013-02-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/136

JF: Believe this can be closed as overtaken by time.

close action-136

<trackbot> Closed action-136.

action-276

<trackbot> action-276 -- John Foliot to Revisit whether to require transcripts be html5 -- due 2014-07-21 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/276

JF: Believe it is on our roadmap for HTML.next - needs fixing.

close action-236

<trackbot> Closed action-236.

action-292

<trackbot> action-292 -- John Foliot to see if https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13437 applies to html 5.1 -- due 2014-12-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/292

JF: Can be closed.

close action-292

<trackbot> Closed action-292.

action-221

<trackbot> action-221 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Raise a bug on html5 to clarify that sign language videos are an important accessibility use case for multiple video tracks. -- due 2013-12-19 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/221

CMN: Thought I had done it, apparently not.

action-221 due in 2 weeks

<trackbot> Set action-221 Raise a bug on html5 to clarify that sign language videos are an important accessibility use case for multiple video tracks. due date to 2015-01-22.

action-255

<trackbot> action-255 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Look into calendaring in yandex -- due 2014-05-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/255

CMN: Nothing useful to offer at this stage on calendaring.

close action-225

<trackbot> Closed action-225.

action-260

<trackbot> action-260 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Present web payments in tf meeting -- due 2014-08-21 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/260

JS: you did that

CMN: Yes, but I would like to do it again, so I am going to give myself a few months and come back to it.

action-260 due in 3 months

<trackbot> Set action-260 Present web payments in tf meeting due date to 2015-04-08.

JF: Jeff Jaffe wrote a good article on that…

action-294

<trackbot> action-294 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Talk torobin about an accesskey (maybe etc) module for html -- due 2014-12-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/294

CMN: I haven't got hold of Robin yet, but will.

PC: You should try to do that. Robin will try to deliver a possible list of modules by the middle of the month.

CMN: Yep, hopefully today or tomorrow.

action-294 due in 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-294 Talk torobin about an accesskey (maybe etc) module for html due date to 2015-01-15.

action-291

<trackbot> action-291 -- Liam Quin to Check bugzilla for where to file alt not bugs -- due 2014-12-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/291

LQ: Can be closed, there is a place to file them.

CMN: Is it in the editors' draft?

LQ: Yep.

close action-291

<trackbot> Closed action-291.

action-246

<trackbot> action-246 -- Mark Sadecki to Enter comment into old tracker -- due 2014-05-19 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/246

MS: in reference to MAUR - has been done.

close action-246

<trackbot> Closed action-246.

action-248

<trackbot> action-248 -- Mark Sadecki to Email point people for html5.1 issues -- due 2014-05-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/248

close action-248

<trackbot> Closed action-248.

action-251

<trackbot> action-251 -- Mark Sadecki to Turn notes on uc 1-7 into something more formal -- due 2014-05-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/251

MS: Believe it is related to TV and Web WG...

close action-251

<trackbot> Closed action-251.

action-252

<trackbot> action-252 -- Mark Sadecki to Log bug on focus ring in ff -- due 2014-05-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/252

close action-252

<trackbot> Closed action-252.

action-270

<trackbot> action-270 -- Mark Sadecki to Follow up on https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 -- due 2014-07-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/270

close action-268

<trackbot> Closed action-268.

close action-270

<trackbot> Closed action-270.

action-278

<trackbot> action-278 -- Mark Sadecki to And jf to present on picture element and srcset for a11y concerns -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/278

close action-278

<trackbot> Closed action-278.

close action-283

<trackbot> Closed action-283.

action-151

<trackbot> action-151 -- Janina Sajka to Start putting a Bugzilla Cheat Sheet together for TF due 20130201 -- due 2012-12-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/151

JS: Low on my priorities - do people still want me to do that?

JB: are people having difficulty dealing with Bugzilla?

JS: Doesn't sound like anybody crying for that, let's close it.

close action-151

<trackbot> Closed action-151.

action-187

<trackbot> action-187 -- Janina Sajka to Find someone from AIsquared. -- due 2013-08-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/187

close action-187

<trackbot> Closed action-187.

JS: We did, related to canvas.

action-219

<trackbot> action-219 -- Janina Sajka to Bring back a proposal for how the tf should deal with html bug 23661 (normative change, informative editorial change, …) -- due 2013-12-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/219

CMN: I took that and think it is dealt with.

close action-219

<trackbot> Closed action-219.

action-266

<trackbot> action-266 -- Janina Sajka to Clarify reason for using "subtitle" superset term as opposed to "captions" subset -- due 2014-06-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/266

close action-243

<trackbot> Closed action-243.

close action-258

<trackbot> Closed action-258.

action-258 due in 2 weeks

<trackbot> Set action-258 Present on date ui in tf meeting. due 2014-07-20 due date to 2015-01-22.

JS: SHould look into this.

action-286

<trackbot> action-286 -- Janina Sajka to Sajka to work with john foliot and mark sadeckit to test accessibility of available eme examples. -- due 2014-10-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/286

MS: Close it

close action-286

<trackbot> Closed action-286.

action-288

<trackbot> action-288 -- Janina Sajka to Look into whether there is a good way to address the concern about linking the items in section 2 into other w3c resources -- due 2014-11-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/288

JS: We did this.

close action-288

<trackbot> Closed action-288.

action-142

<trackbot> action-142 -- Cynthia Shelly to File HTML bug about methods that should fail when an element has @hidden set -- due 2012-10-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/142

CS: Are we still concerned about this?

CMN: I am

CS: Give me a month?

action-142 due in a month

<trackbot> Set action-142 File HTML bug about methods that should fail when an element has @hidden set due date to 2015-01-08.

action-189

<trackbot> action-189 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate what MS products do with lang attribute -- due 2013-08-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/189

action-189 due in 1 month

<trackbot> Set action-189 Investigate what MS products do with lang attribute due date to 2015-02-08.

action-256

<trackbot> action-256 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a wiki page dealing with math accessibility -- due 2014-07-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/256

CMN: I will take that over.

<joanie> chaals: please add me as interested in that math one

<MarkS> chaals, please add me as well

action-274

<trackbot> action-274 -- Cynthia Shelly to Add more information to https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 -- due 2014-07-03 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/274

CS: A bit tricky, but give me a month to chase it down

action-274 due in 1 month

<trackbot> Set action-274 Add more information to https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 due date to 2015-02-08.

close action-254

<trackbot> Closed action-254.

action-261

<trackbot> action-261 -- Léonie Watson to Present realtime chat in tf meeting -- due 2014-06-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/261

close action-261

<trackbot> Closed action-261.

close action-272

<trackbot> Closed action-272.

action-273

<trackbot> action-273 -- Léonie Watson to Look more closely at https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments -- due 2014-07-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/273

action-273 due in 2 weeks

<trackbot> Set action-273 Look more closely at https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments due date to 2015-01-22.

alt note update

LQ: Over the break I made some notes towards filing bugs…

…have a bunch of things to do.

JS: So proceeding, but not "done" for review

LQ: Yep. Need to sit down with Shane, implement the editorial ones and come back with substantive questions.

<scribe> ACTION: Liam to present substantive alt note bugs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-296 - Present substantive alt note bugs [on Liam Quin - due 2015-01-15].

action-296 due in 2 weeks

<trackbot> Set action-296 Present substantive alt note bugs due date to 2015-01-22.

other business

JS: Will we follow up on menu at some point this year?

CS: Yeah, probably… want to put a date?

<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to present a proposal on menus [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-297 - Present a proposal on menus [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-01-15].

action-297 due in 8 months

<trackbot> Set action-297 Present a proposal on menus due date to 2015-09-08.

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia to present a proposal on menus [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Judy to point Josh from Smith Kettlewell to the MUAR document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Liam to present substantive alt note bugs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
 
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