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<trackbot> Date: 08 January 2015
<janina> Hmmm, how about the Hebrew calendar? <grin>
<janina> So far, just yours truly on the phone ...
<scribe> scribe: chaals
<scribe> Meeting: HTML Accessibiity TF
<scribe> Chair: Janina
JS: Believe our Media Accessibility User Requirements document is ready.
… 4 or 5 years old, been through review, most recently from august version we received various comments.
… Comments have been resolved in latest draft, ready to call for comments, and if there is nothing more to do we should publish the document as a Note under PF.
<janina> Final Draft: http://w3c.github.io/pfwg/media-accessibility-reqs/
<janina> Comment Responses: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/MAUR_Comment_Processing_2
JB: Talked to Josh from SKERI, was interested to hear about the document, may have some stuff that might intersect with it.
<scribe> ACTION: Judy to point Josh from Smith Kettlewell to the MUAR document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-295 - Point josh from smith kettlewell to the muar document [on Judy Brewer - due 2015-01-15].
action-295 due 2015-01-10
<trackbot> Set action-295 Point josh from smith kettlewell to the muar document due date to 2015-01-10.
JS: It is a complicated document, requiring expertise in various areas.
… would be great if Josh can join us on Monday.
… Unlikely to publish before February in any case.
MS: Been hard to meet recently, we've continued to clean up testing documentation - work to be done still but we are making progress.
… Need to complete Test Suite before we move forward.
JS: Is there a regular meeting time set?
MS: 3pm Fridays, Boston time.
JS: Email traffic is on a separate list, right? Nor is it part of this TF but part of HTML WG - now a sibling instead of child…
<janina> http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
action-136
<trackbot> action-136 -- John Foliot to Describe the issues of controls vs. no controls -- due 2013-02-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/136
JF: Believe this can be closed as overtaken by time.
close action-136
<trackbot> Closed action-136.
action-276
<trackbot> action-276 -- John Foliot to Revisit whether to require transcripts be html5 -- due 2014-07-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/276
JF: Believe it is on our roadmap for HTML.next - needs fixing.
close action-236
<trackbot> Closed action-236.
action-292
<trackbot> action-292 -- John Foliot to see if https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13437 applies to html 5.1 -- due 2014-12-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/292
JF: Can be closed.
close action-292
<trackbot> Closed action-292.
action-221
<trackbot> action-221 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Raise a bug on html5 to clarify that sign language videos are an important accessibility use case for multiple video tracks. -- due 2013-12-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/221
CMN: Thought I had done it, apparently not.
action-221 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-221 Raise a bug on html5 to clarify that sign language videos are an important accessibility use case for multiple video tracks. due date to 2015-01-22.
action-255
<trackbot> action-255 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Look into calendaring in yandex -- due 2014-05-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/255
CMN: Nothing useful to offer at this stage on calendaring.
close action-225
<trackbot> Closed action-225.
action-260
<trackbot> action-260 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Present web payments in tf meeting -- due 2014-08-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/260
JS: you did that
CMN: Yes, but I would like to do it again, so I am going to give myself a few months and come back to it.
action-260 due in 3 months
<trackbot> Set action-260 Present web payments in tf meeting due date to 2015-04-08.
JF: Jeff Jaffe wrote a good article on that…
action-294
<trackbot> action-294 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Talk torobin about an accesskey (maybe etc) module for html -- due 2014-12-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/294
CMN: I haven't got hold of Robin yet, but will.
PC: You should try to do that. Robin will try to deliver a possible list of modules by the middle of the month.
CMN: Yep, hopefully today or tomorrow.
action-294 due in 1 week
<trackbot> Set action-294 Talk torobin about an accesskey (maybe etc) module for html due date to 2015-01-15.
action-291
<trackbot> action-291 -- Liam Quin to Check bugzilla for where to file alt not bugs -- due 2014-12-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/291
LQ: Can be closed, there is a place to file them.
CMN: Is it in the editors' draft?
LQ: Yep.
close action-291
<trackbot> Closed action-291.
action-246
<trackbot> action-246 -- Mark Sadecki to Enter comment into old tracker -- due 2014-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/246
MS: in reference to MAUR - has been done.
close action-246
<trackbot> Closed action-246.
action-248
<trackbot> action-248 -- Mark Sadecki to Email point people for html5.1 issues -- due 2014-05-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/248
close action-248
<trackbot> Closed action-248.
action-251
<trackbot> action-251 -- Mark Sadecki to Turn notes on uc 1-7 into something more formal -- due 2014-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/251
MS: Believe it is related to TV and Web WG...
close action-251
<trackbot> Closed action-251.
action-252
<trackbot> action-252 -- Mark Sadecki to Log bug on focus ring in ff -- due 2014-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/252
close action-252
<trackbot> Closed action-252.
action-270
<trackbot> action-270 -- Mark Sadecki to Follow up on https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 -- due 2014-07-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/270
close action-268
<trackbot> Closed action-268.
close action-270
<trackbot> Closed action-270.
action-278
<trackbot> action-278 -- Mark Sadecki to And jf to present on picture element and srcset for a11y concerns -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/278
close action-278
<trackbot> Closed action-278.
close action-283
<trackbot> Closed action-283.
action-151
<trackbot> action-151 -- Janina Sajka to Start putting a Bugzilla Cheat Sheet together for TF due 20130201 -- due 2012-12-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/151
JS: Low on my priorities - do people still want me to do that?
JB: are people having difficulty dealing with Bugzilla?
JS: Doesn't sound like anybody crying for that, let's close it.
close action-151
<trackbot> Closed action-151.
action-187
<trackbot> action-187 -- Janina Sajka to Find someone from AIsquared. -- due 2013-08-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/187
close action-187
<trackbot> Closed action-187.
JS: We did, related to canvas.
action-219
<trackbot> action-219 -- Janina Sajka to Bring back a proposal for how the tf should deal with html bug 23661 (normative change, informative editorial change, …) -- due 2013-12-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/219
CMN: I took that and think it is dealt with.
close action-219
<trackbot> Closed action-219.
action-266
<trackbot> action-266 -- Janina Sajka to Clarify reason for using "subtitle" superset term as opposed to "captions" subset -- due 2014-06-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/266
close action-243
<trackbot> Closed action-243.
close action-258
<trackbot> Closed action-258.
action-258 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-258 Present on date ui in tf meeting. due 2014-07-20 due date to 2015-01-22.
JS: SHould look into this.
action-286
<trackbot> action-286 -- Janina Sajka to Sajka to work with john foliot and mark sadeckit to test accessibility of available eme examples. -- due 2014-10-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/286
MS: Close it
close action-286
<trackbot> Closed action-286.
action-288
<trackbot> action-288 -- Janina Sajka to Look into whether there is a good way to address the concern about linking the items in section 2 into other w3c resources -- due 2014-11-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/288
JS: We did this.
close action-288
<trackbot> Closed action-288.
action-142
<trackbot> action-142 -- Cynthia Shelly to File HTML bug about methods that should fail when an element has @hidden set -- due 2012-10-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/142
CS: Are we still concerned about this?
CMN: I am
CS: Give me a month?
action-142 due in a month
<trackbot> Set action-142 File HTML bug about methods that should fail when an element has @hidden set due date to 2015-01-08.
action-189
<trackbot> action-189 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate what MS products do with lang attribute -- due 2013-08-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/189
action-189 due in 1 month
<trackbot> Set action-189 Investigate what MS products do with lang attribute due date to 2015-02-08.
action-256
<trackbot> action-256 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a wiki page dealing with math accessibility -- due 2014-07-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/256
CMN: I will take that over.
<joanie> chaals: please add me as interested in that math one
<MarkS> chaals, please add me as well
action-274
<trackbot> action-274 -- Cynthia Shelly to Add more information to https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 -- due 2014-07-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/274
CS: A bit tricky, but give me a month to chase it down
action-274 due in 1 month
<trackbot> Set action-274 Add more information to https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 due date to 2015-02-08.
close action-254
<trackbot> Closed action-254.
action-261
<trackbot> action-261 -- Léonie Watson to Present realtime chat in tf meeting -- due 2014-06-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/261
close action-261
<trackbot> Closed action-261.
close action-272
<trackbot> Closed action-272.
action-273
<trackbot> action-273 -- Léonie Watson to Look more closely at https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments -- due 2014-07-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/273
action-273 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-273 Look more closely at https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments due date to 2015-01-22.
LQ: Over the break I made some notes towards filing bugs…
…have a bunch of things to do.
JS: So proceeding, but not "done" for review
LQ: Yep. Need to sit down with Shane, implement the editorial ones and come back with substantive questions.
<scribe> ACTION: Liam to present substantive alt note bugs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-296 - Present substantive alt note bugs [on Liam Quin - due 2015-01-15].
action-296 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-296 Present substantive alt note bugs due date to 2015-01-22.
JS: Will we follow up on menu at some point this year?
CS: Yeah, probably… want to put a date?
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to present a proposal on menus [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-297 - Present a proposal on menus [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-01-15].
action-297 due in 8 months
<trackbot> Set action-297 Present a proposal on menus due date to 2015-09-08.
[adjourned]
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