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<trackbot> Date: 09 December 2014
<scribe> scribenick: clown
<scribe> agenda: this
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://127.0.0.1/~richardschwerdtfeger/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
http://w3c.github.io/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_state-property
take up item 1
action-1396?
<trackbot> action-1396 -- Cynthia Shelly to Modify uaig to convey grid role in accessibility mappings, beyond table. (atk/atspi/ ia2 xml-role=grid, macosx: roledescription: grid, msaa/uiaexpress localizedcontroltype="grid"?) -- due 2014-11-15 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1396
JS: It's closed
CS: I just did it.
<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: action 1396 is done
http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-grid
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It looks like you want to change the UIA entry too
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: … the TR
MSAA+UIA ROLE_SYSTEM_TABLE
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: what should this be now?
UIA is DataGrid + seleciton pattern.
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: IT should be the same as the UIA one
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: It does fall back to table in MSAA if an legacy AT tries to access it
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: does this only Windows 10 or does it go all the way back
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: it goes all the way back
take up next item
<richardschwerdtfeger> action 1396 reasigned to joseph
<trackbot> Error finding '1396'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
action-1104?
<trackbot> action-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Action 1104 now changed to January 14
action-1445?
<trackbot> action-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: on FF on IA2 if you have a table with role=“presentation” the cells are exposed as text frames. In ATK they are exposed as text. What about UIA?
Text
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: text
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Text Pattern
action-1311?
<trackbot> action-1311 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Clarify that presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within tables/lists; work out in UAIG 1.1 and with implementors/vendors how to resolve this. -- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1311
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need to deal with mapping of text content
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Alex we need to deal text api mapping like AccessibleText
<richardschwerdtfeger> Issue: Create a section in Core to address accessible text API for text content
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-687 - Create a section in core to address accessible text api for text content. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/687/edit>.
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need this for SVG as well
http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#toc
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: A good place would be to put this in a new section under 5.6 that deals with text, test styling, caret position, etc.
https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkText.html
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text.html
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text2.html
<cyns> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff384841(v=vs.85).aspx
action-1444?
<trackbot> action-1444 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Update atk/at-spi2 mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444
action-1254?
<trackbot> action-1254 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Work with WebApps working group to ensure that DOM spec states when a keydown event is consumed/cancelled that the corresponding keypress event is also cancelled. -- due 2014-12-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It works in all the browsers and I contacted webapps to see if this was acceptable.
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/tests/test-files/test22.html
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/raw-file/tip/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-keydown
If this event is canceled, the associated event types MUST NOT be dispatched, and the associated actions MUST NOT be performed.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: if you go here this is one of the webapps documents. This is the keydown section of the DOM Events spec.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: I included this in my email to Travis and I asked if my interpretation was correct
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Leave this action open so that I can make sure that I have heard from Travis.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Next week is the last meeting for this year
Joanie not here, skip it.
David is not here. Leave for next year.
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