W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

04 Dec 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Leandro, aphillip, Richard, matial, JcK, DennisTan, bobby, somnath
Regrets
Steve
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
aphillip

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-356?

<trackbot> action-356 -- Leandro Reis to Work on converting cldr alphabetic index data to css predefined counter styles using automatic means, evaluating suitability of the data, and report back to wg -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/356

leandro: contacted cldr folks
... got a reply that the index characters would work for most languages but not all

<r12a> shervin ashfar

leandro: one person mentioned that there is an open ticket for this

<Leandro> http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/7954

leandro: ticket above is to investigate adding this data to cldr
... in addition worked on a script to extract the data
... working with index characters
... but should be used once data is in cldr
... will share what I have now for evaluation

action-362?

<trackbot> action-362 -- Leandro Reis to Share information about public knowledge base materials for use on w3c site -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/362

leandro: willing to help to move to github

close action-362

<trackbot> Closed action-362.

<scribe> ACTION: addison: set up github location for knowledgebase material [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-377 - Set up github location for knowledgebase material [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-12-11].

action-367?

<trackbot> action-367 -- John Klensin to Send richard coordinates for standards folks in china related to ebooks, etc. -- due 2014-11-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/367

action-368?

<trackbot> action-368 -- Dennis Tan Tanaka to Ping jck about chinese people working on eai -- due 2014-11-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/368

JcK: at a meeting in Beijing on EAI deployment in october

close action-368

<trackbot> Closed action-368.

close action-372

close action-373

close action-374

<trackbot> Closed action-372.

<trackbot> Closed action-373.

<trackbot> Closed action-374.

Info Share

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

addison: added dpub annotations and web annotations

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar

Indic Layout Requirements FPWD Transition Request

http://www.w3.org/International/docs/indic-layout/

richard: doc needs to move to FPWD so we can send for wide review
... somnath and his colleagues have made changes to it based on comments
... question is whether to move to FPWD
... a few outstanding issues
... two people have sent in comments: Norbert, Hariraam
... Norbert sent in a large list
... also martin raised issue of whether we have permission to publish the pictures

somnath: items in document are locally copyright free
... regarding norbert's comments
... only working on specific languages currently
... can get more reviews if we publish FPWD

richard: don't have a problem starting in Hindi
... you mentioned Tibetan - note that Chinese Layout TF will work on Tibetan
... starting with Devanagari and then moving on to other languages okay

somnath: updated references

<scribe> ACTION: addison: establish a tracker for the Indic Layout requirements document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-378 - Establish a tracker for the indic layout requirements document [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-12-11].

richard: suggest that somnath (et al) respond directly to comments on the public-i18n-indic list
... before we publish as FPWD
... just respond to the emails that have come in

<scribe> ACTION: somnath: respond to all comment emails publicly and prepare updated draft of Indic layout document and send to richard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-379 - Respond to all comment emails publicly and prepare updated draft of indic layout document and send to richard [on Somnath Chandra - due 2014-12-11].

richard: please run the spell checker and check for other typos - there are still quite a lot

Review the Chinese Layout Task Force charter

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/groups/chinese-layout/charter-ri

http://www.w3.org/International/groups/chinese-layout/charter-ri

richard: potential chairs have been pinged
... need to take this to my domain
... have some substantive comments
... remove IG Note publication step
... no objections?

(none recorded)

richard: better way to identify who the TF is and what they are doing
... internal mailing list similar to member@
... require them to announce meetings
... publish minutes
... and list who participated

addison: agree with that

bobby: +1
... not sure where others are

richard: (discussion of "Chinese language" v. "languages of China")
... a large substantive change proposal...
... joining the mailing list should not be the same as being a member of the TF
... should require approval
... TF are people contributing time consistently
... public discussions and anyone can participate in those
... but not TF members
... need a separate way to apply to join
... have a group in member db

addison: proposal? by invitation?

<scribe> ACTION: richard: contact beihang staff with additional comments and suggested changes to CLTF charter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-380 - Contact beihang staff with additional comments and suggested changes to cltf charter [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-12-11].

Review of EAI

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/EAI_Address_Issues

richard: think we should clearly say somewhere that we are just trying to understand the situation here

proposed-ACTION: addison: update the wiki page on EAI and clarify fully the current situation based on today's teleconference, adding the reference to the EAI page when received from JcK

<Leandro> I need to drop off to attend another meeting. Talk to you next week.

<scribe> ACTION: JcK: check on EAI documentation pages and send a link to the WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-381 - Check on eai documentation pages and send a link to the wg [on John Klensin - due 2014-12-11].

<scribe> ACTION: addison: update the wiki page on EAI and clarify fully the current situation based on today's teleconference, adding the reference to the EAI page when received from JcK [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-382 - Update the wiki page on eai and clarify fully the current situation based on today's teleconference, adding the reference to the eai page when received from jck [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-12-11].

AOB?

addison: will beg mercy from XSLT for one more week

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: establish a tracker for the Indic Layout requirements document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: set up github location for knowledgebase material [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: update the wiki page on EAI and clarify fully the current situation based on today's teleconference, adding the reference to the EAI page when received from JcK [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: JcK: check on EAI documentation pages and send a link to the WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: contact beihang staff with additional comments and suggested changes to CLTF charter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: somnath: respond to all comment emails publicly and prepare updated draft of Indic layout document and send to richard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/04-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
 
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