W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

12 Jun 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Leandro, Mati, John_K, Felix
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close action-251

<trackbot> Closed action-251.

action-252?

<trackbot> action-252 -- Felix Sasaki to Ping dita folks about contacting html5 about ruby progress -- due 2013-09-05 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/252

action-312?

<trackbot> action-312 -- Richard Ishida to Talk to dom about adding status tracking stuff to tracker for encoding last call purposes -- due 2014-06-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/312

richard: talk to sysreq instead
... probably won't happen soon
... just make do?

close action-312

<trackbot> Closed action-312.

Info Share

felix: add item to agenda at the end

RADAR

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar#Scheduled_Last_Call_reviews

JcK: discussion on W3C/IETF call
... on getting URN unstuck
... still stuck
... librarians want URN features that can't be currently supported
... have long term view
... similarly WHATWG/W3C changes to URL
... is inconsistent with generic URI syntax
... concern is whether we end up with a bunch of forked standards
... or define relationship of these two specs to generic URI
... go ahead and separate URN
... and move URL to W3C (??)
... and do something to URI 3986

dir isolation tests

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Jun/0008.html

<r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Jun/0006.html

http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/html5/the-dir-attribute/results-dir-isolation

richard: put together tests
... to see if elements are isolating
... and element is treated as a neutral
... basically all items are red
... there are like 12 tests per box
... and only one or two per fail
... dir isolation is not default on any browser yet
... not a surprise
... second table with shim
... we get better results
... FF has 2 fails
... Safari has one
... only small issues
... IE doesn't use CSS necessary for shim
... want you to look at tests
... are they valid?
... give feedback?
... I think they are pretty valid
... like to hear any comments

matial: had a look at the tests
... are those tests inspired from aharon's tests?
... those were from work group in Jerusalem
... look similar
... may not be same?
... reviewed then and were appropriate

richard: took the bdi tests
... worked from them
... made some changes
... most of aharon tests had six subtests
... also put in tests for dir=auto
... and dir=ltr and rtl
... made one or two other changes

matial: looking at what was tested
... source code hard to decipher
... couldn't find words i the tests
... what was tested wasn't obvious in the test
... useful to add to page pseudo code to page
... so it's apparent what is tested
... would be interesting to read to know

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/run?manifest=html5/the-dir-attribute&test=dir-isolation-shim-001

richard: when you go to a link like above
... that's to the framework
... actual test is in an iframe
... gray rectangle is limit of iframe
... you have to right click in the frame
... and view that source

matial: on page with list of tests
... last line is list of browsers

richard: "score" is your current browser
... when you click on score
... buttons for scoring
... and it'll move through tests
... after you go through several times
... "show results" will generate the code to mail to richard
... to merge with existing info in the tables

matial: mail you remarks
... ?

richard: if you want to run on particular platform
... the show result box would show you what you've entered
... that's for *running* the tests
... but not for reviewing them
... please send me email to review them

Encoding Last Call

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014AprJun/0203.html

addison: need to publish files
... want to keep links for now to whatwg
... need to do when we move to CR
... keep from forking until we actually publish CR

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/7

issue-335?

<trackbot> issue-335 -- health warnings for when language not known -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/335

issue-355?

<trackbot> issue-355 -- Supporting files referenced rather than copied -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/355

reviewed this item

richard: been talking to martin about his tests
... he's not using the exact template for TTWF
... just be aware

addison: coverage map?

richard: hope to open it up shortly
... similar problem to dir tests
... you get a pass/fail for each byte

CharMod

addison: preparing document for publication

dcat

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#Property:catalog_language

felix: already a recommendation

addison: should at least point to IANA registry, since that is stable
... but better to have BCP47

<scribe> ACTION: felix: contact DCAT folks about catalog_language [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/12-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-313 - Contact dcat folks about catalog_language [on Felix Sasaki - due 2014-06-19].

AOB?

richard: started working on ruby tests
... look out for them soon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: felix: contact DCAT folks about catalog_language [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/12-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
 
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