W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

13 Feb 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, JcK, Mati
Regrets
felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

close action-282

<trackbot> Closed action-282.

close action-283

<trackbot> Closed action-283.

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close action-285

<trackbot> Closed action-285.

Info Share

JcK: martin duerst and I talking to dennis
... about punycode and IDNA in HTML5
... much confusion

<r12a> Form input type=email [1]

<r12a> [[

<r12a> Constraint validation: While the user interface is representing input

<r12a> that the user agent cannot convert to punycode, the control is suffering

<r12a> from bad input.

<r12a> ]]

richard: small item in the interim

<r12a> http://rishida.net/writing

richard: as part of rewriting my site, I made one or two new things
... one that is coming is tibetan layout requirement document
... if you look at above link

<r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/block/balinese

richard: can see all characters in a Unicode block
... more to come

<r12a> http://rishida.net/scriptlinks

richard: another thing more useful (?)
... is above link
... if you select from lists
... and you get links to various resources about each script (articles, fonts, etc.)

RADAR

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Feb/0015.html

https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/mathml3-2e/

> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/PER-MathML3-20140211/ > http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/PER-xml-entity-names-20140211/

addison: probably should review entity names

Counter Styles

http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/46

richard: believe these can be all closed
... hebrew number converter (which mati commented on)
... if you got to 2500 or something
... you add extra character until you get to quite a few of these
... kind of unhelpful
... mati proposed alternative
... to go in our Note
... solution was to limit number of counters to 2000 to prevent over-long strings
... actually, 3 browsers have implementred
... what mati suggested
... and none have done what is in spec
... so wrote to Tab to change spec
... and it's done now
... only open item is one of the complicated Ethiopian styles won't produce a counter for "1"
... haven't had a response from Tab yet
... otherwise close them all
... keep issue 282

<scribe> ACTION: richard: inform CSS that we are satisfied with counter styles now (save for issue 282) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-286 - Inform css that we are satisfied with counter styles now (save for issue 282) [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-02-20].

Info Share additional

richard: number of issues with W3C test framework
... where our tests currently live
... lack of maintenance
... could dissappear
... framework fails on IE
... doesn't separate opera from chrome
... etc. etc.
... made a new architecture

(discussion of a private link)

HTML5 caseless matching

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16970

ISSUE-105?

<trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- Compatibility caseless matching -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/105

http://people.mozilla.org/~jdaggett/tests/radiobuttonnamecase.html

<scribe> ACTION: addison: pull together wiki page of the caseless matching problem, mining the past conversation with CSS plus charmod plus bug 16970 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-287 - Pull together wiki page of the caseless matching problem, mining the past conversation with css plus charmod plus bug 16970 [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-02-20].

However, Anne, all of those identifiers are themselves ASCII only. That's what makes ACI acceptable there. For Unicode name spaces, I think I18N rightly would insist that, if case sensitive is not used, UCI is the the next appropriate choice and ACI I'd wholly unacceptable. However, case sensitive is usually our first recommendation and, as you say, recommending lowercase and consistent normalization. What would we be breaking if we did that though? Like[CUT]

charmod

addison: need to fix poll
... use UTC or fix the poll to do time zones
... FPWD in about eight weeks?

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: pull together wiki page of the caseless matching problem, mining the past conversation with CSS plus charmod plus bug 16970 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: inform CSS that we are satisfied with counter styles now (save for issue 282) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
 
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