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14:00:34 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-sparql-irc
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14:00:36 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:00:36 <bglimm> Zakim, I am here
Birte Glimm: Zakim, I am here ←
14:00:36 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I do not see a party named 'here'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bglimm, I do not see a party named 'here' ←
14:00:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
14:00:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now ←
14:00:39 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:00:39 <trackbot> Date: 29 June 2010
14:00:44 <LeeF> zakim, this is SPARQL
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this is SPARQL ←
14:00:44 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, LeeF; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM ←
14:00:47 <bglimm> Zakim, I am bglimm
Birte Glimm: Zakim, I am bglimm ←
14:00:47 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I do not see a party named 'bglimm'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bglimm, I do not see a party named 'bglimm' ←
14:00:53 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, +44.186.528.aaaa, kasei, +1.603.897.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, +44.186.528.aaaa, kasei, +1.603.897.aabb ←
14:00:58 <Zakim> - +44.186.528.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.186.528.aaaa ←
14:01:09 <LeeF> zakim, code?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, code? ←
14:01:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF ←
14:01:18 <MattPerry> zakim, aabb is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aabb is me ←
14:01:18 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres ←
14:01:56 <pgearon> morning Axel
Paula Gearon: morning Axel ←
14:01:58 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
14:02:06 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.553.aacc ←
14:02:13 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:02:15 <LeeF> zakim, aacc is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:02:18 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
14:02:20 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it ←
14:02:29 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:02:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, kasei, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, kasei, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), LeeF ←
14:02:38 <bglimm> I am just dialing in again
Birte Glimm: I am just dialing in again ←
14:02:46 <Zakim> + +44.186.528.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.186.528.aadd ←
14:02:55 <bglimm> Zakim, +44.186.528.aadd is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, +44.186.528.aadd is me ←
14:02:55 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
14:03:02 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:03:02 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:03:23 <LeeF> (for the record, next week I'd like to discuss LET and also start reviewing & approving test cases)
Lee Feigenbaum: (for the record, next week I'd like to discuss LET and also start reviewing & approving test cases) ←
14:03:25 <AxelPolleres> scribe: paul gearon
Scribe problem: the name 'paul gearon' does not match any of the 63 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Ahmed Ezzat Alexandre Passant Andrea Westerinen Andrei Lopatenko Andy Seaborne Axel Polleres Bijan Parsia Birte Glimm Bryan Thompson Chimezie Ogbuji Cui Tao Daniel Schutzer Dave Beckett David Charboneau David Newman Davide Palmisano Dhanapalan Kulandai Vadivel Dirk Colaert Dirk-Willem van Gulik Edward Thomas Elias Torres Enrico Franconi Eric Prud'hommeaux Frank Careccia Fred Zemke Gregory Williams Hiroyuki Sato Ivan Mikhailov Ivan Herman Jacek Kopecký Jari Vänttinen Jean-François Baget Jeen Broekstra Jeff Pollock John Clark Jos De Roo Kendall Clark Kevin Wilkinson Lee Feigenbaum Luke Wilson-Mawer Matthew Perry Michael Smith Michele Minno Nicholas Humfrey Nophadol Jekjantuk Olivier Corby Orri Erling Paula Gearon Prateek Jain Rachel Yager Roland Schwaenzl Sandro Hawke Sergio Tessaris Simon Johnston Souripriya Das Steve Harris Sven Groppe Timo Westkämper Tommi Koivula Yoshio Fukushige Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
(Scribe set to Unknown gearon)
14:03:30 <LeeF> scribenick: pgearon
(Scribe set to Paula Gearon)
14:03:37 <LeeF> Chair: AxelPolleres
14:03:42 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-06-29
14:03:43 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-06-29
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-06-29 ←
14:04:18 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: Focus on admin issues today. Action issues, etc
Axel Polleres: Focus on admin issues today. Action issues, etc ←
14:04:44 <bglimm> Axel, are you still talking? I can't hear any more
Birte Glimm: Axel, are you still talking? I can't hear any more ←
14:04:52 <pgearon> focus on tech issues tomorrow in upcoming testcases call
focus on tech issues tomorrow in upcoming testcases call ←
14:04:53 <bglimm> :-(
Birte Glimm: :-( ←
14:04:55 <Zakim> +??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←
14:04:57 <bglimm> silence
Birte Glimm: silence ←
14:05:08 <NicholasH> Zakim, ??P1 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, ??P1 is me ←
14:05:14 <Zakim> +NicholasH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +NicholasH; got it ←
14:05:21 <bglimm> Yes, our telephone system has problems today and Zakim forces me to call US
Birte Glimm: Yes, our telephone system has problems today and Zakim forces me to call US ←
14:05:27 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
14:05:27 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: Summary of Semtech
Axel Polleres: Summary of Semtech ←
14:06:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:06:14 <AlexPassant> Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me ←
14:06:14 <Zakim> sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]' ←
14:06:30 <pgearon> LeeF: Tuesday gave a tutorial on SPARQL. Wednesday there was a SPARQL 1.1 panel. Fewer people at the panel
Lee Feigenbaum: Tuesday gave a tutorial on SPARQL. Wednesday there was a SPARQL 1.1 panel. Fewer people at the panel ←
14:06:51 <pgearon> LeeF: panel had questions on federation. One person asked about LET
Lee Feigenbaum: panel had questions on federation. One person asked about LET ←
14:07:25 <pgearon> LeeF: people in the community seem to be engaged in SPARQL and are following what we're doing
Lee Feigenbaum: people in the community seem to be engaged in SPARQL and are following what we're doing ←
14:08:46 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:08:46 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted ←
14:08:47 <pgearon> LeeF: no real criticism. One question about LET. Another question asking if we've defined everything needed for federation (which we aren't)
Lee Feigenbaum: no real criticism. One question about LET. Another question asking if we've defined everything needed for federation (which we aren't) ←
14:09:30 <pgearon> chimezie: presentation on REST and HTTP. Most of the feedback was just about filling in details of the protocol
Chimezie Ogbuji: presentation on REST and HTTP. Most of the feedback was just about filling in details of the protocol ←
14:10:02 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:10:02 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
14:10:21 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/12/rdf-ws/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/12/rdf-ws/ ←
14:10:22 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: RDF Next Steps workshop
Axel Polleres: RDF Next Steps workshop ←
14:11:19 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: lots of presentations, lots of differing opinions
Axel Polleres: lots of presentations, lots of differing opinions ←
14:11:49 <Zakim> +bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm ←
14:12:00 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: breakout groups on Semantics, Syntax, Named Graphs, and Linked Data issues
Axel Polleres: breakout groups on Semantics, Syntax, Named Graphs, and Linked Data issues ←
14:12:31 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: decided not to worry much about XML. Look at new syntax, and more "webby" things like JSON
Axel Polleres: decided not to worry much about XML. Look at new syntax, and more "webby" things like JSON ←
14:12:51 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:12:51 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:13:32 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: Semantics group wanted to align semantics with what people are expecting
Axel Polleres: Semantics group wanted to align semantics with what people are expecting ←
14:14:38 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: syntax - don't touch XML semantics. Annotations should be allowed in RDF, which will be different to current reification syntax
Axel Polleres: syntax - don't touch XML semantics. Annotations should be allowed in RDF, which will be different to current reification syntax ←
14:14:41 <LeeF> See http://www.w3.org/2010/06/rdf-work-items/table
Lee Feigenbaum: See http://www.w3.org/2010/06/rdf-work-items/table ←
14:15:02 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDF/NextStepWorkshop
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDF/NextStepWorkshop ←
14:15:26 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aaee ←
14:15:28 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: using "weakly deprecated" on several features, such as reificiation. This means that people should avoid using them in new applications
Axel Polleres: using "weakly deprecated" on several features, such as reificiation. This means that people should avoid using them in new applications ←
14:15:35 <LeeF> zakim, aaee is Souri
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaee is Souri ←
14:15:36 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri; got it ←
14:16:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:16:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:16:26 <bglimm> Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me ←
14:16:26 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
14:16:30 <AxelPolleres> topic: Comments
14:16:30 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
14:16:31 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:16:34 <AlexPassant> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:16:34 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it ←
14:16:36 <pgearon> pgearon: the outcome of the workshop is that there will likely be a new RDF working group
Paula Gearon: the outcome of the workshop is that there will likely be a new RDF working group ←
14:16:49 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:16:49 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:17:24 <bglimm> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Birte Glimm: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:17:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, kasei, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), LeeF, NicholasH, AlexPassant, Souri, bglimm (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, OlivierCorby, kasei, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), LeeF, NicholasH, AlexPassant, Souri, bglimm (muted) ←
14:17:25 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: asking everyone on the list about comments
Axel Polleres: asking everyone on the list about comments ←
14:17:38 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:17:38 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:18:11 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:18:11 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted ←
14:18:41 <pgearon> EF-1, EF-2, EF-3. Birte responded, and there was no response. Is this acceptable or do we need to follow up?
EF-1, EF-2, EF-3. Birte responded, and there was no response. Is this acceptable or do we need to follow up? ←
14:19:13 <pgearon> LeeF: good practice to follow up, but not required to at this stage (not until Last Call)
Lee Feigenbaum: good practice to follow up, but not required to at this stage (not until Last Call) ←
14:19:41 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: suggestion to track comments beyond sending response only by last call with a standard question for acknowledgement.
Lee Feigenbaum: suggestion to track comments beyond sending response only by last call with a standard question for acknowledgement. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:19:54 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:19:54 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:20:26 <pgearon> JC-1. LeeF has sent another email opening this discussion again
JC-1. LeeF has sent another email opening this discussion again ←
14:20:49 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: can this be closed, or left open?
Axel Polleres: can this be closed, or left open? ←
14:20:54 <pgearon> LeeF: leave open
Lee Feigenbaum: leave open ←
14:21:03 <AxelPolleres> ASSIGNMENT to be put on next TC agenda
Axel Polleres: ASSIGNMENT to be put on next TC agenda ←
14:21:18 <kasei> RV-2 is waiting on a second response from SteveH.
Gregory Williams: RV-2 is waiting on a second response from SteveH. ←
14:21:22 <pgearon> HK-1. Similar to JC-1
HK-1. Similar to JC-1 ←
14:21:46 <kasei> oops. jumped ahead a bit on that. sorry.
Gregory Williams: oops. jumped ahead a bit on that. sorry. ←
14:24:23 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Paul to check whether http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0003.html is fully answered and complete update the comments table.
ACTION: Paul to check whether http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0003.html is fully answered and complete update the comments table. ←
14:24:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-259 - Check whether http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0003.html is fully answered and complete update the comments table. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-259 - Check whether http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0003.html is fully answered and complete update the comments table. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:24:25 <pgearon> RN-1. Response was not formal, but in public. Richard Newman was satisfied with response
RN-1. Response was not formal, but in public. Richard Newman was satisfied with response ←
14:25:23 <pgearon> DR-1. Property Paths question still open. Axel with follow up with Andy to see if it is resolved
DR-1. Property Paths question still open. Axel with follow up with Andy to see if it is resolved ←
14:25:27 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to contact Andy about open comments assigned to him
ACTION: Axel to contact Andy about open comments assigned to him ←
14:25:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-260 - Contact Andy about open comments assigned to him [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-260 - Contact Andy about open comments assigned to him [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:25:58 <kasei> RV-2 isn't actually done, despite what the wiki says.
Gregory Williams: RV-2 isn't actually done, despite what the wiki says. ←
14:26:02 <AxelPolleres> ST-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html
Axel Polleres: ST-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html ←
14:26:29 <pgearon> ST-1. This has not been responded to. pgearon to follow up
ST-1. This has not been responded to. pgearon to follow up ←
14:26:31 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Paul to look into http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html and update comments page accordingly
ACTION: Paul to look into http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html and update comments page accordingly ←
14:26:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-261 - Look into http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html and update comments page accordingly [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-261 - Look into http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0015.html and update comments page accordingly [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:27:49 <pgearon> RV-2. Responded to, but followup mail not in table
RV-2. Responded to, but followup mail not in table ←
14:28:41 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table
ACTION: greg to add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table ←
14:28:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-262 - Add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-262 - Add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:28:45 <bglimm> Steve did send regrets (most likely cannot make it he said)
Birte Glimm: Steve did send regrets (most likely cannot make it he said) ←
14:29:26 <kasei> that's different
Gregory Williams: that's different ←
14:29:33 <pgearon> Steve needed for RV-3 and RV-4
Steve needed for RV-3 and RV-4 ←
14:29:54 <kasei> aha. RV-4 is the same as the followup on RV-1
Gregory Williams: aha. RV-4 is the same as the followup on RV-1 ←
14:30:10 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: ask stefve about RV-3 RV-4 responses
ACTION: ask stefve about RV-3 RV-4 responses ←
14:30:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ask
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - ask ←
14:30:44 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-262
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-262 ←
14:30:44 <trackbot> ACTION-262 Add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-262 Add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0002.html as new comment in the table, note necessary input from steve in the table closed ←
14:31:24 <AxelPolleres> RH-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0009.html
Axel Polleres: RH-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Mar/0009.html ←
14:32:04 <pgearon> RH-1. More complex. This is an input paper which proposes an abstract syntax for Update
RH-1. More complex. This is an input paper which proposes an abstract syntax for Update ←
14:32:25 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1 ←
14:32:46 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: not responded, but have a reply draft. Draft says that we may consider this
Axel Polleres: not responded, but have a reply draft. Draft says that we may consider this ←
14:34:52 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
Zakim IRC Bot: -AlexPassant ←
14:35:03 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: Lee wanted to hold off on the reply
Axel Polleres: Lee wanted to hold off on the reply ←
14:35:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:35:27 <AlexPassant> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:35:27 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it ←
14:37:22 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: paul to reformulate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1 and send to the list.
ACTION: paul to reformulate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1 and send to the list. ←
14:37:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-263 - Reformulate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1 and send to the list. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-263 - Reformulate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RH-1 and send to the list. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:37:34 <pgearon> pgearon: feels that the draft response is a "brush off" and volunteers to update the response
Paula Gearon: feels that the draft response is a "brush off" and volunteers to update the response ←
14:39:21 <pgearon> KK-1. ISSUE-49. Ivan asked, said we can reference informatively
KK-1. ISSUE-49. Ivan asked, said we can reference informatively ←
14:40:04 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: can replicate ISSUE-49 in the text and explain that there may be an issue if not used as expected
Axel Polleres: can replicate ISSUE-49 in the text and explain that there may be an issue if not used as expected ←
14:40:48 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Chime to draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc.
ACTION: Chime to draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. ←
14:40:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-264 - Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-264 - Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:41:12 <kasei> I drafted a response, but never got WG feedback on it.
Gregory Williams: I drafted a response, but never got WG feedback on it. ←
14:41:54 <pgearon> kasei: discussing MH-3, TI-3 response
Gregory Williams: discussing MH-1, TI-3 response ←
14:42:13 <pgearon> s/MH-3/MH-1/
14:42:25 <LeeF> +1 chimezie
Lee Feigenbaum: +1 chimezie ←
14:43:10 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MH-1
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MH-1 ←
14:43:12 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:43:23 <pgearon> kasei: don't plan to follow up with "well known" endpoint without a concrete proposal
Gregory Williams: don't plan to follow up with "well known" endpoint without a concrete proposal ←
14:43:23 <bglimm> supoort
Birte Glimm: supoort ←
14:43:30 <bglimm> support
Birte Glimm: support ←
14:43:54 <kasei> either way
Gregory Williams: either way ←
14:44:16 <pgearon> kasei to follow up without action
kasei to follow up without action ←
14:44:39 <AxelPolleres> PA-1
Axel Polleres: PA-1 ←
14:44:40 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jun/0002.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jun/0002.html ←
14:45:15 <pgearon> Andy suggested that functions from XPath can be used
Andy suggested that functions from XPath can be used ←
14:45:22 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:PA-1
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:PA-1 ←
14:45:58 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: can someone please check. Concern about syntactic correctness
Axel Polleres: can someone please check. Concern about syntactic correctness ←
14:46:36 <pgearon> AxelPolleres: noticed use of "+" instead of concat function
Axel Polleres: noticed use of "+" instead of concat function ←
14:47:03 <kasei> works in a real implementation?
Gregory Williams: works in a real implementation? ←
14:47:09 <kasei> does anybody implement those functions yet?
Gregory Williams: does anybody implement those functions yet? ←
14:47:17 <LeeF> my main concern is fn:concat and fn:encode-for-uri
Lee Feigenbaum: my main concern is fn:concat and fn:encode-for-uri ←
14:47:20 <LeeF> which we haven't settled on yet, right?
Lee Feigenbaum: which we haven't settled on yet, right? ←
14:47:43 <LeeF> which functions & via which URIs
Lee Feigenbaum: which functions & via which URIs ←
14:47:53 <LeeF> Sure
Lee Feigenbaum: Sure ←
14:48:16 <LeeF> i think you're missing braces in the WHERE clause
Lee Feigenbaum: i think you're missing braces in the WHERE clause ←
14:48:35 <LeeF> the sub-SELECT needs to be wrapped in braces
Lee Feigenbaum: the sub-SELECT needs to be wrapped in braces ←
14:49:22 <pgearon> pgearon: also includes example:percentEncode in query, which shouldn't be there
Paula Gearon: also includes example:percentEncode in query, which shouldn't be there ←
14:49:36 <kasei> I think the current grammar allows WHERE { SELECT ... }
Gregory Williams: I think the current grammar allows WHERE { SELECT ... } ←
14:50:33 <OlivierCorby> it should be: select exp as var (instead of var as exp)
Olivier Corby: it should be: select exp as var (instead of var as exp) ←
14:50:38 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to update answer to PA-1 explaining non-normative nature of the functions and that syntax may still change
ACTION: Axel to update answer to PA-1 explaining non-normative nature of the functions and that syntax may still change ←
14:50:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-265 - Update answer to PA-1 explaining non-normative nature of the functions and that syntax may still change [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-265 - Update answer to PA-1 explaining non-normative nature of the functions and that syntax may still change [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:51:52 <kasei> yes
Gregory Williams: yes ←
14:52:25 <pgearon> PA-2. Semantics of Describe. AxelPolleres has this on his list
PA-2. Semantics of Describe. AxelPolleres has this on his list ←
14:52:42 <kasei> I can draft a response to PA-2 w.r.t. service descriptions.
Gregory Williams: I can draft a response to PA-2 w.r.t. service descriptions. ←
14:53:56 <AxelPolleres> DS-1 needs discussion
Axel Polleres: DS-1 needs discussion ←
14:53:59 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jun/0011.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jun/0011.html ←
14:54:03 <pgearon> DS-1. mentioned before, and kasei thinks we need more discussion
DS-1. mentioned before, and kasei thinks we need more discussion ←
14:54:44 <pgearon> kasei: Andy provided compelling example, response suggested that entailment can interact and cause problems
Gregory Williams: Andy provided compelling example, response suggested that entailment can interact and cause problems ←
14:54:59 <AxelPolleres> we had that discussion on F2F ... looks like we have to discuss this in the group again.
Axel Polleres: we had that discussion on F2F ... looks like we have to discuss this in the group again. ←
14:55:48 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options
ACTION: greg to write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options ←
14:55:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-266 - Write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-07-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-266 - Write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-07-06]. ←
14:55:59 <pgearon> kasei following up, will be discussed in next teleconference
kasei following up, will be discussed in next teleconference ←
14:57:09 <kasei> what time is the call tomorrow?
Gregory Williams: what time is the call tomorrow? ←
14:58:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: aob
14:58:35 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
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14:58:36 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
Axel Polleres: adjourned ←
14:58:37 <Zakim> -LeeF
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14:58:38 <pgearon> adjourned
adjourned ←
14:58:39 <Zakim> -bglimm
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14:58:45 <Zakim> -MattPerry
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14:58:47 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
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14:58:49 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby
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14:58:53 <Zakim> -NicholasH
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14:58:55 <Zakim> -pgearon
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14:58:55 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
14:58:57 <Zakim> -kasei
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14:59:01 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
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15:22:59 <kasei> AxelPolleres, ping?
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Gregory Williams: AxelPolleres, ping? ←
15:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Souri, in SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
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15:35:07 <Zakim> Attendees were OlivierCorby, pgearon, +44.186.528.aaaa, kasei, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji, +1.617.553.aacc, LeeF, bglimm, NicholasH, +1.603.897.aaee,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were OlivierCorby, pgearon, +44.186.528.aaaa, kasei, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, AxelPolleres, Chimezie_Ogbuji, +1.617.553.aacc, LeeF, bglimm, NicholasH, +1.603.897.aaee, ←
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