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12:53:01 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-irc
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12:53:09 <RalphS> Meeting: Interoperable Metadata via RDF/A Project Review
12:53:12 <RalphS> Chair: Ralph
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12:53:19 <RalphS> Presenter: Ben Adida, Creative Commons
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Unknown Presenter: Ben Adida, Creative Commons [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
12:53:31 <RalphS> rrsagent, please make this record team-only
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Unknown RalphS: rrsagent, please make this record team-only ←
12:56:00 <RalphS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t/2006Apr/0032.html
12:56:58 <tlr> rrsagent, bookmark?
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Unknown tlr: rrsagent, bookmark? ←
12:56:58 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-irc#T12-56-58
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-irc#T12-56-58 ←
12:57:16 <ivan> Scribe: ivan
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(Scribe set to Unknown ivan)
12:59:30 <RalphS> zakim, move review to here
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, move review to here ←
12:59:31 <Zakim> ok, RalphS; that matches Team_Global(review)8:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, RalphS; that matches Team_Global(review)8:00AM ←
12:59:40 <Zakim> -Ishida
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ishida ←
12:59:42 <RalphS> zakim, Ben_Adida just arrived in mit531
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, Ben_Adida just arrived in mit531 ←
12:59:42 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ben_Adida; got it ←
12:59:56 <shawn> zakim, mute me
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Unknown shawn: zakim, mute me ←
12:59:56 <Zakim> Shawn was already muted, shawn
Zakim IRC Bot: Shawn was already muted, shawn ←
13:00:12 <Zakim> -Karen
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen ←
13:00:33 <Zakim> +Cedric
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cedric ←
13:00:53 <RalphS> zakim, Danny just arrived in mit531
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Scribe problem: the name 'RalphS' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown RalphS: zakim, Danny just arrived in mit531 ←
13:00:53 <Zakim> +Danny; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Danny; got it ←
13:00:54 <Alan-home> zakim, mute alan
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Unknown Alan-home: zakim, mute alan ←
13:00:55 <Zakim> Alan was already muted, Alan-home
Zakim IRC Bot: Alan was already muted, Alan-home ←
13:01:11 <Zakim> -Carine
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Carine ←
13:01:15 <RalphS> zakim, Hal_Abelson just arrived in mit531
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, Hal_Abelson just arrived in mit531 ←
13:01:15 <Zakim> +Hal_Abelson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Hal_Abelson; got it ←
13:01:31 <Zakim> +DanC
Zakim IRC Bot: +DanC ←
13:02:48 <em> zakim, dial emiller-bos
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Unknown em: zakim, dial emiller-bos ←
13:02:48 <Zakim> ok, em; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, em; the call is being made ←
13:02:49 <Zakim> +Emiller
Zakim IRC Bot: +Emiller ←
13:02:58 <RalphS> zakim, who's on the call?
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, who's on the call? ←
13:02:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Maxf (muted), Cedric (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Maxf (muted), Cedric (muted), ←
13:03:02 <Zakim> ... DanC, Emiller
Zakim IRC Bot: ... DanC, Emiller ←
13:03:03 <Zakim> Keio has fumi, mimasa
Zakim IRC Bot: Keio has fumi, mimasa ←
13:03:05 <Zakim> MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson
Zakim IRC Bot: MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson ←
13:03:12 <Kazuyuki> zakim, call Kazuyuki-Home
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Unknown Kazuyuki: zakim, call Kazuyuki-Home ←
13:03:12 <Zakim> ok, Kazuyuki; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Kazuyuki; the call is being made ←
13:03:13 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
Zakim IRC Bot: +Kazuyuki ←
13:03:20 <RalphS> Scribe: Ivan
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(Scribe set to Unknown Ivan)
13:03:23 <Kazuyuki> zakim, mute me
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Scribe problem: the name 'Kazuyuki' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Kazuyuki: zakim, mute me ←
13:03:23 <Zakim> Kazuyuki should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Kazuyuki should now be muted ←
13:04:47 <RalphS> -> http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/ slides
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Unknown RalphS: -> http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/ slides ←
13:05:01 <klaus> zakim, dial klaus-home
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Unknown klaus: zakim, dial klaus-home ←
13:05:01 <Zakim> ok, klaus; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, klaus; the call is being made ←
13:05:02 <Zakim> +Klaus
Zakim IRC Bot: +Klaus ←
13:05:12 <Zakim> -Klaus
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Klaus ←
13:05:22 <klaus> zakim, dial klaus-home
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Scribe problem: the name 'klaus' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown klaus: zakim, dial klaus-home ←
13:05:22 <Zakim> ok, klaus; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, klaus; the call is being made ←
13:05:24 <Zakim> +Klaus
Zakim IRC Bot: +Klaus ←
13:05:28 <maxf> Zakim, dial maxf-skype
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Scribe problem: the name 'maxf' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown maxf: Zakim, dial maxf-skype ←
13:05:28 <Zakim> ok, maxf; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, maxf; the call is being made ←
13:05:47 <Steven> rrsagent, pointer?
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Unknown Steven: rrsagent, pointer? ←
13:05:47 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-irc#T13-05-47
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-irc#T13-05-47 ←
13:05:56 <Zakim> -Klaus
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Klaus ←
13:06:04 <dom> [is the info in this presentation public? I assume so]
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Unknown dom: [is the info in this presentation public? I assume so] ←
13:06:06 <Steven> Regrets: MarkBirbeck
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13:06:14 <klaus> zakim, drop klaus
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Scribe problem: the name 'klaus' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown klaus: zakim, drop klaus ←
13:06:14 <Zakim> sorry, klaus, I do not see a party named 'klaus'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, klaus, I do not see a party named 'klaus' ←
13:06:20 <klaus> zakim, dial klaus-home
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Scribe problem: the name 'klaus' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown klaus: zakim, dial klaus-home ←
13:06:20 <Zakim> ok, klaus; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, klaus; the call is being made ←
13:06:22 <Zakim> +Klaus
Zakim IRC Bot: +Klaus ←
13:06:36 <Danny> zakim, who is on the call?
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Scribe problem: the name 'Danny' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Danny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:06:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Maxf (muted), Cedric (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Maxf (muted), Cedric (muted), ←
13:06:39 <Zakim> ... DanC, Emiller, Kazuyuki (muted), Klaus
Zakim IRC Bot: ... DanC, Emiller, Kazuyuki (muted), Klaus ←
13:06:40 <Zakim> Keio has fumi, mimasa
Zakim IRC Bot: Keio has fumi, mimasa ←
13:06:41 <Zakim> MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson
Zakim IRC Bot: MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson ←
13:06:41 <ivan> ralph presenting Ben, representing creative commons, rdf/a task force and also mit
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Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ivan: ralph presenting Ben, representing creative commons, rdf/a task force and also mit ←
13:06:43 <maxf> zakim, drop me
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Scribe problem: the name 'maxf' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown maxf: zakim, drop me ←
13:06:43 <Zakim> Maxf is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Maxf is being disconnected ←
13:06:44 <Zakim> -Maxf
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Maxf ←
13:06:52 <ivan> ... and hal who is also creative commons plus mit
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Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ivan: ... and hal who is also creative commons plus mit ←
13:07:00 <klaus> zakim, mute me
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Scribe problem: the name 'klaus' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown klaus: zakim, mute me ←
13:07:00 <Zakim> Klaus should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Klaus should now be muted ←
13:07:12 <ivan> hal: we decided very early to use rdf, and rdf/a
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Unknown hal: we decided very early to use rdf, and rdf/a [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:07:21 <maxf> Zakim, who's here?
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Scribe problem: the name 'maxf' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown maxf: Zakim, who's here? ←
13:07:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Cedric (muted), DanC, Emiller,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MIT531, Keio (muted), Shawn (muted), Steven (muted), Dom (muted), Chibao (muted), Ivan, Ian, Bert, Alan (muted), Thomas (muted), Cedric (muted), DanC, Emiller, ←
13:07:25 <Zakim> ... Kazuyuki (muted), Klaus (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Kazuyuki (muted), Klaus (muted) ←
13:07:25 <Steven> ack me
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Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Steven: ack me ←
13:07:26 <ivan> ralph: i also invited mark burbeck from the rdf/a work
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Unknown ralph: i also invited mark burbeck from the rdf/a work [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:07:26 <Zakim> Keio has fumi, mimasa
Zakim IRC Bot: Keio has fumi, mimasa ←
13:07:27 <Zakim> MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson
Zakim IRC Bot: MIT531 has Ralph, Philippe, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson ←
13:07:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see maxf, Danny, em, IanJ, DanC, klaus, fsasaki, cedric, chibao, Kazuyuki, shawn, Steven, Bert, Alan-home, caribou, ivan, dom, mimasa, tlr, RRSAgent, Zakim, RalphS, SusanL
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see maxf, Danny, em, IanJ, DanC, klaus, fsasaki, cedric, chibao, Kazuyuki, shawn, Steven, Bert, Alan-home, caribou, ivan, dom, mimasa, tlr, RRSAgent, Zakim, RalphS, SusanL ←
13:07:33 <ivan> ... he wrote the original white paper
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Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ivan: ... he wrote the original white paper ←
13:07:33 <maxf> Zakim, dial maxf-skype
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Scribe problem: the name 'maxf' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown maxf: Zakim, dial maxf-skype ←
13:07:38 <Zakim> ok, maxf; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, maxf; the call is being made ←
13:07:39 <jose> zakim, dial jose-617
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Scribe problem: the name 'jose' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jose: zakim, dial jose-617 ←
13:07:40 <Zakim> +Maxf
Zakim IRC Bot: +Maxf ←
13:07:41 <maxf> Zakim, mute me
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Scribe problem: the name 'maxf' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown maxf: Zakim, mute me ←
13:07:42 <Zakim> ok, jose; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, jose; the call is being made ←
13:07:42 <ivan> ... but he sent his regrets
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Unknown ivan: ... but he sent his regrets ←
13:07:44 <jose> zakim, mute me
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13:07:44 <Zakim> +Jose
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13:07:46 <Zakim> Maxf was already muted, maxf
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13:07:49 <Steven> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven: zakim, mute me ←
13:07:50 <Zakim> Jose should now be muted
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13:07:54 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
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13:08:20 <Zakim> +??P1
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13:09:01 <fsasaki> zakim, mute felix
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13:09:01 <Zakim> Felix should now be muted
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13:09:08 <ivan> ben: starting presentation...
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Unknown ben: starting presentation... [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:09:30 <ivan> ... slides are http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/
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Unknown ivan: ... slides are http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/ ←
13:09:51 <RalphS> [slide 3 IPTC]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 3 IPTC] ←
13:09:58 <Zakim> +Dean
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13:10:26 <ivan> ben: these slides are used for people who are not necessarily familiar with rdf
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Unknown ben: these slides are used for people who are not necessarily familiar with rdf [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:10:33 <ivan> ... some of the stuff will be familiar
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Unknown ivan: ... some of the stuff will be familiar ←
13:10:37 <ivan> ... that is intentional
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Unknown ivan: ... that is intentional ←
13:10:47 <ivan> slide #3
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Unknown ivan: slide #3 ←
13:10:57 <Alan-home> acronym IPTC???
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Unknown Alan-home: acronym IPTC??? ←
13:11:13 <Danny> Int'l Press Technology group
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Unknown Danny: Int'l Press Technology group ←
13:11:14 <em> IPTC -> http://www.iptc.org/
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Unknown em: IPTC -> http://www.iptc.org/ ←
13:11:19 <ivan> slide #4
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Unknown ivan: slide #4 ←
13:11:26 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf W3C archived copy of Ben's presentation
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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf W3C archived copy of Ben's presentation ←
13:11:39 <SusanL> Zakim, please dial SusanL-BOS
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Unknown SusanL: Zakim, please dial SusanL-BOS ←
13:11:39 <Zakim> ok, SusanL; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, SusanL; the call is being made ←
13:11:41 <Zakim> +SusanL
Zakim IRC Bot: +SusanL ←
13:11:46 <RalphS> [slide 4 Creative Commons]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 4 Creative Commons] ←
13:12:25 <ivan> ben: use case of cc is pretty much like foaf, for example
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Unknown ben: use case of cc is pretty much like foaf, for example [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:12:33 <DanC> q+ to ask about "right inside the HTML" and IPTC
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Unknown DanC: q+ to ask about "right inside the HTML" and IPTC ←
13:12:33 <ivan> ... you want to have rdf chunks into html
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Unknown ivan: ... you want to have rdf chunks into html ←
13:12:34 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida (expected) HTML variant of Ben's presentation
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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida (expected) HTML variant of Ben's presentation ←
13:12:39 <RalphS> ^ not yet there
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Unknown RalphS: ^ not yet there ←
13:13:00 <ivan> ben: demo
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Unknown ben: demo [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:14:03 <benadida> http://creativecommons.org/
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Unknown benadida: http://creativecommons.org/ ←
13:14:21 <ivan> ben: there is a 'publish' icon on the right
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Unknown ben: there is a 'publish' icon on the right [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:14:26 <ivan> ... you get to a list of questions
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Unknown ivan: ... you get to a list of questions ←
13:14:26 <benadida> http://creativecommons.org/license/
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Unknown benadida: http://creativecommons.org/license/ ←
13:14:35 <karl> zakim, call karl-§17
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Unknown karl: zakim, call karl-§17 ←
13:14:35 <Zakim> I am sorry, karl; I do not know a number for karl-§17
Zakim IRC Bot: I am sorry, karl; I do not know a number for karl-§17 ←
13:14:39 <karl> zakim, call karl-617
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Unknown karl: zakim, call karl-617 ←
13:14:39 <Zakim> ok, karl; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, karl; the call is being made ←
13:14:40 <ivan> ... if you select select
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Unknown ivan: ... if you select select ←
13:14:40 <Zakim> +Karl
Zakim IRC Bot: +Karl ←
13:14:46 <RalphS> Ben: click 'Select a License'
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Unknown Ben: click 'Select a License' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:14:46 <Zakim> +Carine
Zakim IRC Bot: +Carine ←
13:14:48 <ivan> ... returns a chunk of html
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Unknown ivan: ... returns a chunk of html ←
13:14:50 <DanC> chunk of HTML contains rel="license"
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Unknown DanC: chunk of HTML contains rel="license" ←
13:15:02 <karl> zakim, mute me
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Unknown karl: zakim, mute me ←
13:15:02 <Zakim> Karl should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Karl should now be muted ←
13:15:02 <ivan> ... i then paste in an html document
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Unknown ivan: ... i then paste in an html document ←
13:15:18 <ivan> ... then i get a cc logo and notice
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Unknown ivan: ... then i get a cc logo and notice ←
13:15:40 <benadida> http://benlog.com/
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Unknown benadida: http://benlog.com/ ←
13:15:59 <benadida> bookmarklets: http://ben.adida.net/rdfa/new/
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Unknown bookmarklets: http://ben.adida.net/rdfa/new/ [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ] ←
13:16:19 <Steven> I have tested it on Opera
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Unknown Steven: I have tested it on Opera ←
13:16:21 <Steven> it works
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Unknown Steven: it works ←
13:16:23 <RalphS> Ben: bookmarklet is tested in IE6, Safari, Mozilla
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Unknown Ben: bookmarklet is tested in IE6, Safari, Mozilla [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:16:41 <RalphS> Ben: *drag* the link to your booksmark bar
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Unknown Ben: *drag* the link to your booksmark bar [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:16:50 <benadida> http://benlog.com
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Unknown benadida: http://benlog.com ←
13:17:21 <ivan> ben: if you go to my blog link, and run the bookmarklet and look at the left licence page
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Unknown ben: if you go to my blog link, and run the CC bookmarklet and look at the left licence page [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:17:39 <ivan> ...if you move there, you get a pop up on the cc type used
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Unknown ivan: ...if you move there, you get a pop up on the cc type used ←
13:17:45 <ivan> ... if you click it goes to the cc page
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Unknown ivan: ... if you click it goes to the cc page ←
13:17:45 <RalphS> s/the bookmarklet/the CC bookmarklet/
13:18:01 <benadida> http://www.pir.uniprot.org/
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13:18:02 <DanC> (I'm confused about the demo; is this using RDF/A? )
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Unknown DanC: (I'm confused about the demo; is this using RDF/A? ) ←
13:18:23 <ivan> ben: yes, it used rdf/a
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Unknown ben: yes, it used rdf/a [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:18:36 <ivan> ... the cc stuff uses rel=licence
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Unknown ivan: ... the cc stuff uses rel=licence ←
13:19:02 <Steven> q+
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Unknown Steven: q+ ←
13:19:03 <ivan> ben: cc actually defined new terms, but would prefer to
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Unknown ben: cc actually defined new terms, but would prefer to [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:19:31 <Steven> RDF/A is upwards compatible with existing XHTML
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Unknown Steven: RDF/A is upwards compatible with existing XHTML ←
13:19:34 <ivan> dan: rel=license is in html, is it rdf/a? it does not use separate namespace
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Unknown dan: rel=license is in html, is it rdf/a? it does not use separate namespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:19:37 <Steven> it adds new stuff
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Unknown Steven: it adds new stuff ←
13:19:44 <ivan> ben: rdf/a uses default namespaces
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Unknown ben: rdf/a uses default namespaces [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:19:46 <Steven> but there is a lot that is already de facto in use
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Unknown Steven: but there is a lot that is already de facto in use ←
13:19:55 <Steven> W3C homepage has some RDF/A already on it
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Unknown Steven: W3C homepage has some RDF/A already on it ←
13:20:03 <Steven> ack me
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Unknown Steven: ack me ←
13:20:14 <DanC> BenA: HTML WG added rel="license" to the HTML standard, and added an RDF property, xhtml:license, to the HTML standards
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Unknown BenA: HTML WG added rel="license" to the HTML standard, and added an RDF property, xhtml:license, to the HTML standards [ Scribe Assist by Unknown DanC ] ←
13:20:25 <ivan> steven: rdf/a is designed to be upwad compatible with existing xhtml stuff
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Unknown steven: rdf/a is designed to be upwad compatible with existing xhtml stuff [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:20:31 <ivan> ... you use existing model
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Unknown ivan: ... you use existing model ←
13:20:46 <ivan> ... easy learning curve, with explicit explanation on how to relate to rdf
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Unknown ivan: ... easy learning curve, with explicit explanation on how to relate to rdf ←
13:20:56 <Steven> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven: zakim, mute me ←
13:20:56 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
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13:21:05 <DanC> (I think this "it just works" story is being oversold. see curies in href)
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Unknown DanC: (I think this "it just works" story is being oversold. see curies in href) ←
13:21:15 <ivan> ben: one of the ideas is that microformat falks sayd rel=license is the way to go
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Unknown ben: one of the ideas is that microformat folks sayd rel=license is the way to go [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:21:22 <ivan> ... one goal was to have that in rdf/a, too
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Unknown ivan: ... one goal was to have that in rdf/a, too ←
13:21:29 <benadida> http://www.pir.uniprot.org/
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Unknown benadida: http://www.pir.uniprot.org/ ←
13:21:31 <Steven> DanC, Curies are a superset of URIs
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Unknown Steven: DanC, Curies are a superset of URIs ←
13:21:32 <Zakim> +TimBL
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13:21:38 <Alan-home> s/falks/folks/
13:21:45 <benadida> http://www.pir.uniprot.org/
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Unknown benadida: http://www.pir.uniprot.org/ ←
13:21:45 <Steven> so 'just works' is still true. URIs are valiud values
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Unknown Steven: so 'just works' is still true. URIs are valiud values ←
13:21:56 <jose> zakim, mute me
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13:21:56 <Zakim> Jose was already muted, jose
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13:22:07 <ivan> ben : unitprot is a big bioinfo databases, they have cc
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Unknown ivan: ben : unitprot is a big bioinfo databases, they have cc ←
13:22:11 <em> UniProt -> UniProt (Universal Protein Resource) is the world's most comprehensive catalog of information on proteins.
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Unknown em: UniProt -> UniProt (Universal Protein Resource) is the world's most comprehensive catalog of information on proteins. ←
13:22:16 <DanC> yes, but href="[cc:license]" isn't going to work in old browsers. I know you didn't say it's forward as well as backward compatible, but by not telling the bad news, you're overselling, Steven.
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Unknown DanC: yes, but href="[cc:license]" isn't going to work in old browsers. I know you didn't say it's forward as well as backward compatible, but by not telling the bad news, you're overselling, Steven. ←
13:22:20 <ivan> ... if you use the tool, it finds the cc stuff
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Unknown ivan: ... if you use the tool, it finds the cc stuff ←
13:22:23 <benadida> http://ben.adida.net
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Unknown benadida: http://ben.adida.net ←
13:22:26 <plh> weird, mozcc (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/363/) doesn't recognize the licensing terms in http://benlog.com/
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Unknown plh: weird, mozcc (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/363/) doesn't recognize the licensing terms in http://benlog.com/ ←
13:23:03 <RalphS> Ben: use the RDF/A Highlight bookmarklet on -> http://ben.adida.net/ my home page
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Unknown Ben: use the RDF/A Highlight bookmarklet on -> http://ben.adida.net/ my home page [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:23:08 <ivan> ben: if you go to my home page and my second tool, it creates a bunch of red blogs showing rdf triples
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Unknown ben: if you go to my home page and my second tool, it creates a bunch of red blogs showing rdf triples [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:23:09 <Steven> Danc, expand the Curie in the href and it works
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Unknown Steven: Danc, expand the Curie in the href and it works ←
13:23:23 <ivan> .... the urls can be used to be sent to, say, the foaf vocabulary
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Unknown ivan: .... the urls can be used to be sent to, say, the foaf vocabulary ←
13:23:44 <DanC> yes, but as I wrote in mail to xhtml-tf, existing browsers _don't_ expand the Curie. They just fail silently. So you're overselling.
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Unknown DanC: yes, but as I wrote in mail to xhtml-tf, existing browsers _don't_ expand the Curie. They just fail silently. So you're overselling. ←
13:23:45 <ivan> ben: one more demo
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Unknown ben: one more demo [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:23:49 <benadida> http://benlog.com/
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Unknown benadida: http://benlog.com/ ←
13:24:19 <DanC> well, they fail in mysterious ways, not silently
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Unknown DanC: well, they fail in mysterious ways, not silently ←
13:24:19 <RalphS> Ben highlights a part of the second paragraph
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Unknown RalphS: Ben highlights a part of the second paragraph ←
13:24:34 <ivan> ben: i select a sentence, and with another tool that I have not published
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Unknown ben: i select a sentence, and with another tool that I have not published [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:24:36 <benadida> http://yergler.net/rdfa/make_wp.php
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Unknown benadida: http://yergler.net/rdfa/make_wp.php ←
13:24:39 <ivan> here is the screenshot
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Unknown ivan: here is the screenshot ←
13:24:39 <RalphS> ... clicks on another (not yet distributed) Wordpress bookmarklet ...
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Unknown RalphS: ... clicks on another (not yet distributed) Wordpress bookmarklet ... ←
13:25:22 <RalphS> ... "WordPress-BlogThis!" bookmarklet takes him to his Wordpress admin page having extracted the metadata from the highlighted paragraph
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Unknown RalphS: ... "WordPress-BlogThis!" bookmarklet takes him to his Wordpress admin page having extracted the metadata from the highlighted paragraph ←
13:25:23 <ivan> scribe is lost without seeing what happens :-(
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Unknown ivan: scribe is lost without seeing what happens :-( ←
13:25:39 <dom> [again, that looks like straight XHTML, not RDF/A; without grounding in a real URI space, it's hard to see how this is real RDF/A]
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Unknown dom: [again, that looks like straight XHTML, not RDF/A; without grounding in a real URI space, it's hard to see how this is real RDF/A] ←
13:26:03 <DanC> demos work pretty well here.
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Unknown DanC: demos work pretty well here. ←
13:26:18 <Zakim> DanC, you wanted to ask about "right inside the HTML" and IPTC
Zakim IRC Bot: DanC, you wanted to ask about "right inside the HTML" and IPTC ←
13:26:41 <ivan> danc: customers want to put stuff into xhtml, iptc does not right?
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Unknown danc: customers want to put stuff into xhtml, iptc does not right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:26:58 <ivan> ben: true. newsml are drivers for requirements, but not on that
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Unknown ben: true. newsml are drivers for requirements, but not on that [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:27:15 <RalphS> [slide 6 Web Publishers]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 6 Web Publishers] ←
13:27:43 <SusanL> DanC, is it worth mentioning W3C home page folded in DC with "This dialect (more formally, metadata profile as specified in section 6.12 Link types of the HTML 4.0 specification) should be declared explicitly ala <head profile="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#">." I have not been following best practices for profiles.
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Unknown SusanL: DanC, is it worth mentioning W3C home page folded in DC with "This dialect (more formally, metadata profile as specified in section 6.12 Link types of the HTML 4.0 specification) should be declared explicitly ala <head profile="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#">." I have not been following best practices for profiles. ←
13:27:50 <RalphS> [slide 7 Requirements of Interoperable Metadata]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 7 Requirements of Interoperable Metadata] ←
13:27:53 <DanC> (blogr looks like the real one... blogger.com? )
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Unknown DanC: (blogr looks like the real one... blogger.com? ) ←
13:28:10 <RalphS> [slide 8 Requirement: Publisher Independence]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 8 Requirement: Publisher Independence] ←
13:28:10 <ivan> slide #8
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Unknown ivan: slide #8 ←
13:28:27 <Steven> http://www.blogr.com/comingsoon/blogr-coming-soon.com.html
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Unknown Steven: http://www.blogr.com/comingsoon/blogr-coming-soon.com.html ←
13:28:51 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/ RDF in XHTML Taskforce home
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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/ RDF in XHTML Taskforce home ←
13:29:05 <DanC> probably, susan. hard to say.
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Unknown DanC: probably, susan. hard to say. ←
13:29:16 <RalphS> --> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2004-10-12-tf RDF in XHTML [includes "Requirements" section]
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Unknown RalphS: --> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2004-10-12-tf RDF in XHTML [includes "Requirements" section] ←
13:30:02 <ivan> slide #9: data reuse
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Unknown ivan: slide #9: data reuse ←
13:30:14 <RalphS> Danny: by "publisher" you mean only the organization running the server, right?
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Unknown Danny: by "publisher" you mean only the organization running the server, right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:30:18 <RalphS> Ben: right
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Unknown Ben: right [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:30:54 <DanC> (I hope h2 isn't being used for the main heading on the page ;-)
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Unknown DanC: (I hope h2 isn't being used for the main heading on the page ;-) ←
13:31:05 <RalphS> http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf
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Unknown RalphS: http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf ←
13:31:09 <em> http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/html/w3c
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13:31:27 <ivan> slide #9: self containenment
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Unknown ivan: slide #9: self containment ←
13:31:46 <ivan> s/containenment/containment/
13:31:48 <RalphS> <http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf> owl:sameAs <http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/w3c-2006-04-06.pdf> .
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Unknown RalphS: <http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-adida.pdf> owl:sameAs <http://ben.adida.net/presentations/w3c-2006-04-06/w3c-2006-04-06.pdf> . ←
13:31:59 <em> lol
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Unknown em: lol ←
13:33:04 <RalphS> Ben: want to be able to identify the metadata that applies to just one selected chunk of a blog post
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Unknown Ben: want to be able to identify the metadata that applies to just one selected chunk of a blog post [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:33:10 <ivan> slide #11 modularity
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Unknown ivan: slide #11 modularity ←
13:33:15 <DanC> (the self-containment requirement seems complex. I wonder how to state it exactly.)
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Unknown DanC: (the self-containment requirement seems complex. I wonder how to state it exactly.) ←
13:33:38 <ivan> slide#12 evolvabilitty
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Unknown ivan: slide#12 evolvabilitty ←
13:34:07 <Zakim> -Shawn
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13:34:09 <ivan> slide #13: all requirements together
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Unknown ivan: slide #13: all requirements together ←
13:34:46 <ivan> ben: for sw convert the data reuse and self-containment are more to be discussed
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Unknown ben: for sw convert the data reuse and self-containment are more to be discussed [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:35:05 <ivan> danny: sw world people may refer to data reuse differently than you
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Unknown danny: sw world people may refer to data reuse differently than you [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:35:14 <DanC> "Data Reuse" is called DRY/DontRepeatYourself elsewhere
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Unknown DanC: "Data Reuse" is called DRY/DontRepeatYourself elsewhere ←
13:35:24 <ivan> ben: what i am saying if I change html, then i change the metadata
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Unknown ben: what i am saying if I change html, then i change the metadata [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:35:39 <ivan> danny: you should really focus on that
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Unknown danny: you should really focus on that [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:35:51 <Zakim> -Dean
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13:36:12 <ivan> ... i wonder whether that sort of precise data reuse does not collapse into self containment
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Unknown ivan: ... i wonder whether that sort of precise data reuse does not collapse into self containment ←
13:36:19 <ivan> ben: i have examples where they do not
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Unknown ben: i have examples where they do not [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:36:27 <RalphS> Ben: I will show some example of DRY that are not self-containment
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Unknown Ben: I will show some example of DRY that are not self-containment [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:36:29 <ivan> slide#14: primer
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Unknown ivan: slide#14: primer ←
13:36:42 <RalphS> [slide 15 DIV example]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 15 DIV example] ←
13:36:44 <timbl_> "Data reuse" for me means "I put this data here for my blog but someone just used it to analyse the spread of british culture in the notheast of the USA"
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Unknown timbl_: "Data reuse" for me means "I put this data here for my blog but someone just used it to analyse the spread of british culture in the notheast of the USA" ←
13:37:04 <timbl_> etc
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Unknown timbl_: etc ←
13:37:21 <RalphS> [slide 16: turning the hypertext into a semantic link]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 16: turning the hypertext into a semantic link] ←
13:37:23 <ivan> slide #16: turning this into rdf
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Unknown ivan: slide #16: turning this into rdf ←
13:37:37 <ivan> ben: adding namespece and a 're;'
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Unknown ben: adding namespece and a 'rel' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:37:42 <ivan> s/re;/rel/
13:37:51 <timbl_> issue clearly is the qname in the attribute
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Unknown timbl_: issue clearly is the qname in the attribute ←
13:37:56 <ivan> slide #17: bring in dc terms
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Unknown ivan: slide #17: bring in dc terms ←
13:37:59 <RalphS> q+ to clarify what cc:license means
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Unknown RalphS: q+ to clarify what cc:license means ←
13:38:11 <SusanL> where is property attribute standardized?
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Unknown SusanL: where is property attribute standardized? ←
13:38:17 <DanC> q+ to note we've gone beyond current HTML standards at this point (i.e. validator will give a thumbs-down)
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Unknown DanC: q+ to note we've gone beyond current HTML standards at this point (i.e. validator will give a thumbs-down) ←
13:38:36 <ivan> slide 18 and slide 19 with proposed terms of CC
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Unknown ivan: slide 18 and slide 19 with proposed terms of CC ←
13:38:56 <dom> ack Ra
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Unknown dom: ack Ra ←
13:38:56 <Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to clarify what cc:license means
Zakim IRC Bot: RalphS, you wanted to clarify what cc:license means ←
13:38:58 <ivan> ralph: i would to clarify cc:license means
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Unknown ralph: i would to clarify cc:license means [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:39:05 <ivan> ben: any license
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Unknown ben: any license [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:39:15 <ivan> ... we introduced cc:license because there was not one
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Unknown ivan: ... we introduced cc:license because there was not one ←
13:39:25 <Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note we've gone beyond current HTML standards at this point (i.e. validator will give a thumbs-down)
Zakim IRC Bot: DanC, you wanted to note we've gone beyond current HTML standards at this point (i.e. validator will give a thumbs-down) ←
13:39:33 <ivan> ben : it does not ahve to be a cc license
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Unknown ivan: ben : it does not ahve to be a cc license ←
13:39:36 <Danny> q+ to ask about license
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Unknown Danny: q+ to ask about license ←
13:39:45 <ivan> dans: at this point you move to new xhtml standard
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Unknown dans: at this point you move to new xhtml standard [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:39:48 <Steven> q+
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Unknown Steven: q+ ←
13:39:48 <ivan> ben: yes
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Unknown ben: yes [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:39:56 <ivan> ... what is shown is xhtml2
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Unknown ivan: ... what is shown is xhtml2 ←
13:40:12 <ivan> ... in the demo i showed how we could implement this with xhml1.1
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Unknown ivan: ... in the demo i showed how we could implement this with xhml1.1 ←
13:40:37 <ivan> ... validation is a problem but works with browsers
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Unknown ivan: ... validation is a problem but works with browsers ←
13:40:54 <ivan> danc: people used license without knowing that they were using rdf....
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Unknown danc: people used license without knowing that they were using rdf.... [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:41:00 <ivan> .... you changed the standards under their feet
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Unknown ivan: .... you changed the standards under their feet ←
13:41:27 <timbl_> What about rel=no-follow?
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Unknown timbl_: What about rel=no-follow? ←
13:41:29 <ivan> ben: rel=license has only been recently been defined by html
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Unknown ben: rel=license has only been recently been defined by html [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:41:34 <Steven> ack me
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Unknown Steven: ack me ←
13:41:46 <ivan> danc: so people could use that without knowing it was licence
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Unknown danc: so people could use that without knowing it was licence [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:41:53 <timbl_> q?
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Unknown timbl_: q? ←
13:41:58 <ivan> steven: there were predefined in the xhml text
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Unknown steven: there were predefined in the xhml text [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:42:08 <ivan> ... the problem is that nobody knows who owns them
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Unknown ivan: ... the problem is that nobody knows who owns them ←
13:42:28 <ivan> danc: people might have used this with their own meeting
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Unknown danc: people might have used this with their own meaning [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:42:34 <ivan> ... you are now taking it back
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Unknown ivan: ... you are now taking it back ←
13:42:39 <SusanL> W3C uses <link id="meta" rel="rel:meta" href="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#meta" /> with a head profile
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Unknown SusanL: W3C home page uses <link id="meta" rel="rel:meta" href="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#meta" /> with a head profile ←
13:42:39 <dom> s/meeting/meaning/
13:43:02 <SusanL> s/W3C uses/W3C home page uses/
13:43:06 <timbl_> q+ to ask whether rel="xxx" without a colon in the xxx is supposed to generate an RDF triple, but asking someone else to ask the question as it is noisy here
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Unknown timbl_: q+ to ask whether rel="xxx" without a colon in the xxx is supposed to generate an RDF triple, but asking someone else to ask the question as it is noisy here ←
13:43:14 <Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to comment on Dan's use of "license"
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13:43:16 <ivan> ben: dan, i agree we are giving meaning to something that did not have a meeting before
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Unknown ben: dan, i agree we are giving meaning to something that did not have a meeting before [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:43:17 <Zakim> +Sandro
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13:43:38 <ivan> ralph: there is namespace collision here, it does not separate namespaces historically
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Unknown ralph: there is namespace collision here, it does not separate namespaces historically [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:43:46 <ivan> steven: we are just reflecting common practice
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Unknown steven: we are just reflecting common practice [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:43:56 <Zakim> Danny, you wanted to ask about license
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13:43:58 <ivan> ... license is used a great deal for rel, the common practice is the value we recommend
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Unknown ivan: ... license is used a great deal for rel, the common practice is the value we recommend ←
13:44:03 <em> .me wonders how Steven has assessed the use of 'rel' ?
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Unknown em: .me wonders how Steven has assessed the use of 'rel' ? ←
13:44:13 <ivan> ben: i take your point dan, is there any differene with microformats?
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Unknown ben: i take your point dan, is there any differene with microformats? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:44:23 <IanJ> Isn't the difference the use of a profile?
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Unknown IanJ: Isn't the difference the use of a profile? ←
13:44:27 <DanC> (absolutely, microformats plays fast-and-loose in exactly the same way, when they don't use head/@profile )
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Unknown DanC: (absolutely, microformats plays fast-and-loose in exactly the same way, when they don't use head/@profile ) ←
13:44:39 <ivan> danny: the rel=license constitutes a meaning of the triple
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Unknown danny: the rel=license constitutes a meaning of the triple [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:44:49 <ivan> ... it has an implied semantics
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Unknown ivan: ... it has an implied semantics ←
13:45:07 <ivan> ... it does seem like a substantial step to do that
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Unknown ivan: ... it does seem like a substantial step to do that ←
13:45:24 <ivan> hal: it does not change the copyright license
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Unknown hal: it does not change the copyright license [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:45:38 <ivan> danny: yes, but it might be confused with my driving licence
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Unknown danny: yes, but it might be confused with my driving licence [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:45:59 <ivan> ... i intuitively feel it more comfortable to use your namespace
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Unknown ivan: ... i intuitively feel it more comfortable to use your namespace ←
13:46:32 <timbl_> You have to asses the damage which will actually be done -- and decide. Maybe very little use uf rel
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Unknown timbl_: You have to asses the damage which will actually be done -- and decide. Maybe very little use uf rel ←
13:46:36 <timbl_> q?
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Unknown timbl_: q? ←
13:46:45 <ivan> ... we could say we do not want to get into that complication
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Unknown ivan: ... we could say we do not want to get into that complication ←
13:47:04 <timbl_> ack tim
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Unknown timbl_: ack tim ←
13:47:04 <Zakim> timbl_, you wanted to ask whether rel="xxx" without a colon in the xxx is supposed to generate an RDF triple, but asking someone else to ask the question as it is noisy here
Zakim IRC Bot: timbl_, you wanted to ask whether rel="xxx" without a colon in the xxx is supposed to generate an RDF triple, but asking someone else to ask the question as it is noisy here ←
13:47:09 <timbl_> PLEASE ASK IT FOR ME
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Unknown timbl_: PLEASE ASK IT FOR ME ←
13:47:28 <sandro> (DanC, "fast-and-loose" is the same as "namespace squating", or more generally "unauthorized-but-seemingly-harmless deviation from a standard", yes?)
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Unknown sandro: (DanC, "fast-and-loose" is the same as "namespace squating", or more generally "unauthorized-but-seemingly-harmless deviation from a standard", yes?) ←
13:47:29 <ivan> timbl: rel="xxx" without a colon does it generate a triple
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Unknown timbl: rel="xxx" without a colon does it generate a triple [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:47:31 <timbl_> What about no-follow then?
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Unknown timbl_: What about no-follow then? ←
13:47:38 <DanC> (yes, sandro.)
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Unknown DanC: (yes, sandro.) ←
13:47:41 <ivan> ben: yes with the xhml namespace
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Unknown ben: yes with the xhml namespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:47:57 <ivan> ... it may not have a proper semantics
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Unknown ivan: ... it may not have a proper semantics ←
13:48:13 <ivan> ... the uri may not follow to anything
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Unknown ivan: ... the uri may not follow to anything ←
13:48:52 <ivan> timbl: you are saying when somebody used no-follow, will generate a triple, you say it won't make any sense
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Unknown timbl: you are saying when somebody used no-follow, will generate a triple, you say it won't make any sense [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:48:53 <SusanL> q+ to say W3C home page profile includes Dublin Core (and it uses rights for license)
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Unknown SusanL: q+ to say W3C home page profile includes Dublin Core (and it uses rights for license) ←
13:48:53 <em> <uri1> google:no_follow <uri2>
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Unknown em: <uri1> google:no_follow <uri2> ←
13:48:56 <Danny> agenda+ use of default xhtml namespace in "rel=??:license"
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Unknown Danny: agenda+ use of default xhtml namespace in "rel=??:license" ←
13:48:59 <ivan> ... is that a feature?
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Unknown ivan: ... is that a feature? ←
13:48:59 <Alan-home> zakim, where it Timbl?
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Unknown Alan-home: zakim, where it Timbl? ←
13:48:59 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Alan-home.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Alan-home. ←
13:49:08 <Alan-home> zakim, where is Timbl?
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Unknown Alan-home: zakim, where is Timbl? ←
13:49:08 <Zakim> sorry, Alan-home, I do not understand your question
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13:49:16 <ivan> ... it would be very rare for people to use a ':' in a rel
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Unknown ivan: ... it would be very rare for people to use a ':' in a rel ←
13:49:28 <DanC> (in fact, a colon is prohibited in XHTML 1, yes?)
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Unknown DanC: (in fact, a colon is prohibited in XHTML 1, yes?) ←
13:49:29 <ivan> ... it might be a minefield
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Unknown ivan: ... it might be a minefield ←
13:49:43 <DanC> ISSUE: default namespace for rel
ISSUE: default namespace for rel ←
13:50:02 <ivan> ben: i would love to have an answer later: what is the fear of the rdf triples
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Unknown ben: i would love to have an answer later: what is the fear of the rdf triples [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:50:07 <ivan> ... let us go on
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Unknown ivan: ... let us go on ←
13:50:09 <DanC> (the "fear" is formalizing something without the author's knowledge and consent)
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Unknown DanC: (the "fear" is formalizing something without the author's knowledge and consent) ←
13:50:21 <RalphS> [slide 18: additional Creative Commons properties under consideration]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 18: additional Creative Commons properties under consideration] ←
13:50:35 <RalphS> ... cc:citeURL
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Unknown RalphS: ... cc:citeURL ←
13:50:37 <ivan> slide #18: rel=cc:citeURL
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Unknown ivan: slide #18: rel=cc:citeURL ←
13:50:44 <SusanL> agenda+ W3C home page profile (which includes Dublin Core, and http://www.w3.org/Overview-about.rdf which uses "rights" for "license")
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Unknown SusanL: agenda+ W3C home page profile (which includes Dublin Core, and http://www.w3.org/Overview-about.rdf which uses "rights" for "license") ←
13:50:46 <SusanL> q-
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13:50:48 <karl> (DanC, nothing forbids you to have class="dc:title" in XHTML 1.0 if it's your question)
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Unknown karl: (DanC, nothing forbids you to have class="dc:title" in XHTML 1.0 if it's your question) ←
13:50:52 <RalphS> Ben: oops; I may be misusing cc:citeURL in this example
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Unknown Ben: oops; I may be misusing cc:citeURL in this example [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:50:53 <ivan> ... this is the uri you should cite if you give me attribution
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Unknown ivan: ... this is the uri you should cite if you give me attribution ←
13:51:06 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
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Unknown sandro: zakim, who is muted? ←
13:51:06 <Zakim> I see Keio, Dom, Chibao, Alan, Thomas, Maxf, Cedric, Kazuyuki, Klaus, Jose, Felix, Karl, Sandro muted
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13:51:08 <DanC> (karl, I'm surprised... hmm..)
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Unknown DanC: (karl, I'm surprised... hmm..) ←
13:51:11 <ivan> ... we can introduce these new properties
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Unknown ivan: ... we can introduce these new properties ←
13:51:27 <ivan> ... the wordpress demo pulled out this uri
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Unknown ivan: ... the wordpress demo pulled out this uri ←
13:51:27 <DanC> <!ENTITY % LinkTypes "CDATA"
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Unknown DanC: <!ENTITY % LinkTypes "CDATA" ←
13:51:27 <DanC> -- space-separated list of link types
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Unknown DanC: -- space-separated list of link types ←
13:51:27 <DanC> -->
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Unknown DanC: --> ←
13:51:28 <dom> [note that ":" is NOT prohibited in XHTML 1; at least HTML 4.01 defines the type of LinkTypes (which rel uses) as CDATA]
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Unknown dom: [note that ":" is NOT prohibited in XHTML 1; at least HTML 4.01 defines the type of LinkTypes (which rel uses) as CDATA] ←
13:51:39 <timbl_> Yes, ben -- you could argue that any link with any rel has an RDF semantics of that triple. I am not too afeared of that basically.
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Unknown timbl_: Yes, ben -- you could argue that any link with any rel has an RDF semantics of that triple. I am not too afeared of that basically. ←
13:51:40 <karl> (you can even style it with .dc\:title {...}
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Unknown karl: (you can even style it with .dc\:title {...} ←
13:51:40 <RalphS> Ben: WordPress bookmarklet can follow ccc:citeURL to know whom to attribute
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Unknown Ben: WordPress bookmarklet can follow ccc:citeURL to know whom to attribute [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
13:51:51 <dom> [re class, it's only that : are a pain to use in CSS due to escaping]
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Unknown dom: [re class, it's only that : are a pain to use in CSS due to escaping] ←
13:51:51 <ivan> #slide 20: a full chunk of xhtml plus rdf/a
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Unknown ivan: #slide 20: a full chunk of xhtml plus rdf/a ←
13:51:52 <RalphS> [slide 20: complete chunk]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 20: complete chunk] ←
13:51:57 <DanC> -- http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html#LinkTypes
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Unknown DanC: -- http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html#LinkTypes ←
13:52:12 <RalphS> [slide 21: changing the subject of the RDF triples with 'about=']
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 21: changing the subject of the RDF triples with 'about='] ←
13:52:13 <ivan> #21: there is an about and that changes the subject of the triple
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Unknown ivan: #21: there is an about and that changes the subject of the triple ←
13:52:46 <ivan> slide #22: metadata on internal fragments
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Unknown ivan: slide #22: metadata on internal fragments ←
13:53:06 <ivan> ... reusing li and ol for rdf collections
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Unknown ivan: ... reusing li and ol for rdf collections ←
13:53:29 <DanC> (is there an address for an RDF/A spec that is maintained along with the design discussions?)
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Unknown DanC: (is there an address for an RDF/A spec that is maintained along with the design discussions?) ←
13:53:34 <ivan> ... those triples generated are basically a bunch of blank nodes
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Unknown ivan: ... those triples generated are basically a bunch of blank nodes ←
13:53:57 <RalphS> agenda+ where is most current RDF/A spec and is it maintained along with design discussions?
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Unknown RalphS: agenda+ where is most current RDF/A spec and is it maintained along with design discussions? ←
13:54:00 <ivan> slide #23: rdf/a by requirements
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Unknown ivan: slide #23: rdf/a by requirements ←
13:54:02 <karl> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
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Unknown karl: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/ ←
13:54:14 <Steven> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven: zakim, mute me ←
13:54:14 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
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13:54:36 <timbl_> re Slide 24 -- Security issue: Metadata says something different from what the UI says.
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Unknown timbl_: re Slide 24 -- Security issue: Metadata says something different from what the UI says. ←
13:54:41 <ivan> slide #24: elegant degradataion
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Unknown ivan: slide #24: elegant degradataion ←
13:55:20 <maxf> zakim, drop me
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13:55:21 <Zakim> -Maxf
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13:55:26 <DanC> q+ to ask what of href="[iptc:001]" and degradation
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Unknown DanC: q+ to ask what of href="[iptc:001]" and degradation ←
13:55:45 <RalphS> [slide 25: a chunk of HTML that is also an RSS feed]
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Unknown RalphS: [slide 25: a chunk of HTML that is also an RSS feed] ←
13:55:46 <ivan> slide #25: xhtml2 plus rdf/a the latter is rss1.0
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Unknown ivan: slide #25: xhtml2 plus rdf/a the latter is rss1.0 ←
13:56:26 <ivan> ben: if your reader knows about the calendar vocabulary, it connects to it, if not it is just xhtml rendered as xhtml
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Unknown ben: if your reader knows about the calendar vocabulary, it connects to it, if not it is just xhtml rendered as xhtml [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:57:07 <em> .me notes folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'graceful degradation'
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Unknown em: .me notes folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'graceful degradation' ←
13:57:10 <ivan> ben: how do we deploy that?
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Unknown ben: how do we deploy that? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
13:57:15 <sandro> DanC, Karl -- your syntax-of-rel question reminds me that whether you can put a URI in a rel changed back and forth between (X)HTML versions, as discussed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Dec/0234.html
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Unknown sandro: DanC, Karl -- your syntax-of-rel question reminds me that whether you can put a URI in a rel changed back and forth between (X)HTML versions, as discussed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Dec/0234.html ←
13:57:20 <ivan> slide #26 xhtml 1.1 modul
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Unknown ivan: slide #26 xhtml 1.1 module ←
13:57:24 <ivan> s/modul/module/
13:57:28 <em> q+
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Unknown em: q+ ←
13:57:37 <ivan> ... link and meta are in body
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Unknown ivan: ... link and meta are in body ←
13:57:45 <ivan> ... about and property attributes
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Unknown ivan: ... about and property attributes ←
13:57:48 <ivan> ... and curies
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Unknown ivan: ... and curies ←
13:57:59 <em> q+ to note folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'elegant degradation'
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Unknown em: q+ to note folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'elegant degradation' ←
13:58:03 <Steven> q+ to talk about "a different sort of XHTML"
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Unknown Steven: q+ to talk about "a different sort of XHTML" ←
13:58:21 <ivan> ... the proposal is in the context of the new sw deployment working group to have it xhtml 1.1.
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Unknown ivan: ... the proposal is in the context of the new sw deployment working group to have it xhtml 1.1. ←
13:58:42 <ivan> slide#27: mozilla said it is 'fantastic'
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Unknown ivan: slide#27: mozilla said it is 'fantastic' ←
13:59:11 <RalphS> [quote from Ben's meeting at Mozilla last week]
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Unknown RalphS: [quote from Ben's meeting at Mozilla last week] ←
13:59:32 <dom> [I have to go to another call; find this quote from Mozilla interesting]
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Unknown dom: [I have to go to another call; find this quote from Mozilla interesting] ←
14:00:01 <Zakim> DanC, you wanted to ask what of href="[iptc:001]" and degradation
Zakim IRC Bot: DanC, you wanted to ask what of href="[iptc:001]" and degradation ←
14:00:25 <ivan> danc: everything you present great, what you do not present makes me afraid... curie
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Unknown danc: everything you present great, what you do not present makes me afraid... curie [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:00:37 <ivan> ... curie does not work in current browsers
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Unknown ivan: ... curie does not work in current browsers ←
14:00:50 <RalphS> specifically, curie in href
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Unknown RalphS: specifically, curie in href ←
14:00:52 <ivan> ben: we have worked on an rdf/a spec for xhtml2
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Unknown ben: we have worked on an rdf/a spec for xhtml2 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:01:08 <ivan> .. i do not think that this degragates well
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Unknown ivan: .. i do not think that this degragates well ←
14:01:23 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
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14:01:37 <ivan> ralph: any new feature in the langauge is such that it will not degrate properly. Curie is one
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Unknown ralph: any new feature in the langauge is such that it will not degrate properly. Curie is one [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:01:44 <RalphS> Ralph: an author can choose not to use CURIEs in href
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Unknown Ralph: an author can choose not to use CURIEs in href [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
14:01:49 <ivan> ben: curie probably will not make it into xhtml 1.1
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Unknown ben: curie probably will not make it into xhtml 1.1 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:02:07 <ivan> ... this is an issue where different customer require different things
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Unknown ivan: ... this is an issue where different customer require different things ←
14:02:16 <ivan> ... the iptc guys want a compact url
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Unknown ivan: ... the iptc guys want a compact url ←
14:02:18 <Bert> Hmm, &-entities exist and are not used, XML Base exists and is not used, even <base> in HTML is rare, why would CURIEs fare any better?
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Unknown Bert: Hmm, &-entities exist and are not used, XML Base exists and is not used, even <base> in HTML is rare, why would CURIEs fare any better? ←
14:02:29 <ivan> ... but dan is right that it will not degrade into xhtml1.1 properly
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Unknown ivan: ... but dan is right that it will not degrade into xhtml1.1 properly ←
14:02:37 <Zakim> em, you wanted to note folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'elegant degradation'
Zakim IRC Bot: em, you wanted to note folks around here talk about 'partial understanding' similar to what Ben is calling 'elegant degradation' ←
14:03:00 <Danny> agenda+ RDF/A and GRDDL harmony
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Unknown Danny: agenda+ RDF/A and GRDDL harmony ←
14:03:01 <DanC> ("elegant degradation" is pretty close to "graceful degradation", which is a long-standing term.)
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Unknown DanC: ("elegant degradation" is pretty close to "graceful degradation", which is a long-standing term.) ←
14:03:22 <ivan> ericM: application can glean bits and pieces of data and make something out of it, even if they do not undersand everything. That is very important
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Unknown ericM: application can glean bits and pieces of data and make something out of it, even if they do not undersand everything. That is very important [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:03:27 <IanJ> In wcag 1.0, the phrase was "graceful transformation"
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Unknown IanJ: In wcag 1.0, the phrase was "graceful transformation" ←
14:03:28 <DanC> (about 267,000 for "graceful degradation")
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Unknown DanC: (about 267,000 for "graceful degradation") ←
14:03:42 <ivan> ben: we are combining the c'ickable web and the semantic web together
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Unknown ben: we are combining the c'ickable web and the semantic web together [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:03:45 <IanJ> v
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Unknown IanJ: v ←
14:03:46 <IanJ> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#transform-gracefully
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Unknown IanJ: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#transform-gracefully ←
14:03:56 <DanC> (about 128 for "elegant degradation" )
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Unknown DanC: (about 128 for "elegant degradation" ) ←
14:03:58 <Zakim> Steven, you wanted to talk about "a different sort of XHTML"
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, you wanted to talk about "a different sort of XHTML" ←
14:04:04 <ivan> steven: go back to dan's earlier comment on a different version of xhtml
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Unknown steven: go back to dan's earlier comment on a different version of xhtml [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:04:12 <ivan> ... this is a non-dtd version of xhtml
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Unknown ivan: ... this is a non-dtd version of xhtml ←
14:04:23 <RalphS> zakim, agenda?
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, agenda? ←
14:04:25 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda: ←
14:04:27 <Zakim> 1. use of default xhtml namespace in "rel=??:license" [from Danny]
Zakim IRC Bot: 1. use of default xhtml namespace in "rel=??:license" [from Danny] ←
14:04:31 <Zakim> 2. W3C home page profile (which includes Dublin Core, and http://www.w3.org/Overview-about.rdf which uses "rights" for "license") [from SusanL]
Zakim IRC Bot: 2. W3C home page profile (which includes Dublin Core, and http://www.w3.org/Overview-about.rdf which uses "rights" for "license") [from SusanL] ←
14:04:34 <Zakim> 3. where is most current RDF/A spec and is it maintained along with design discussions? [from RalphS]
Zakim IRC Bot: 3. where is most current RDF/A spec and is it maintained along with design discussions? [from RalphS] ←
14:04:36 <Zakim> 4. RDF/A and GRDDL harmony [from Danny]
Zakim IRC Bot: 4. RDF/A and GRDDL harmony [from Danny] ←
14:04:47 <ivan> ... on the other hand, there is a rule in html saying that if you find a property you do not understand ignore it
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Unknown ivan: ... on the other hand, there is a rule in html saying that if you find a property you do not understand ignore it ←
14:04:53 <ivan> danc: i do not remember that this way
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Unknown danc: i do not remember that this way [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:04:57 <karl> (/usr/local/bin/apachectl graceful - how to reboot "gracefully")
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Unknown karl: (/usr/local/bin/apachectl graceful - how to reboot "gracefully") ←
14:04:58 <IanJ> which version? html 4?
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Unknown IanJ: which version? html 4? ←
14:04:59 <ivan> steven: will find you the text
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Unknown steven: will find you the text [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:05:16 <RalphS> zakim, take up agendum 2
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, take up agendum 2 ←
14:05:16 <Zakim> agendum 2. "W3C home page profile (which includes Dublin Core, and http://www.w3.org/Overview-about.rdf which uses "rights" for "license")" taken up [from SusanL]
14:05:48 <RalphS> zakim, agenda order 3,4,1
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, agenda order 3,4,1 ←
14:05:48 <Zakim> ok, RalphS
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, RalphS ←
14:05:53 <ivan> susanl: the w3c homepage refers to a profile which defines the meta link type, we use html extension rules to use that
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Unknown susanl: the w3c homepage refers to a profile which defines the meta link type, we use html extension rules to use that [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:06:01 <ivan> .... we are using dc to do that
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Unknown ivan: .... we are using dc to do that ←
14:06:12 <em> q+
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Unknown em: q+ ←
14:06:17 <em> q-
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Unknown em: q- ←
14:06:23 <em> q+
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Unknown em: q+ ←
14:06:23 <ivan> ... also, we use 'rights' has that been superceded by license?
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Unknown ivan: ... also, we use 'rights' has that been superceded by license? ←
14:06:27 <Steven> DanC, If a user agent encounters an attribute it does not recognize, it must ignore the entire attribute specification (i.e., the attribute and its value).
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Unknown Steven: DanC, If a user agent encounters an attribute it does not recognize, it must ignore the entire attribute specification (i.e., the attribute and its value). ←
14:06:34 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#uaconf
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Unknown Steven: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#uaconf ←
14:06:34 <em> -> http://purl.org/dc/terms/license
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Unknown em: -> http://purl.org/dc/terms/license ←
14:06:50 <ivan> ben: the second question, i do not think it would be true, i think DC has defined a 'license'
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Unknown ben: the second question, i do not think it would be true, i think DC has defined a 'license' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:06:52 <em> -> http://dublincore.org/dcregistry/detailServlet?reqType=detail&item=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fdc%2Fterms%2Flicense
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Unknown em: -> http://dublincore.org/dcregistry/detailServlet?reqType=detail&item=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fdc%2Fterms%2Flicense ←
14:07:10 <ivan> ericm: yes they have defined a a licence as a refinement of 'rights'
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Unknown ericm: yes they have defined a a licence as a refinement of 'rights' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:07:43 <em> what is not clear from DCMI is how this relates to cc:license :(
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Unknown em: what is not clear from DCMI is how this relates to cc:license :( ←
14:08:00 <ivan> ian: for susan, rdf/a is not a recommendation yet, so there is no replacement of the current extension mechanism
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Unknown ian: for susan, rdf/a is not a recommendation yet, so there is no replacement of the current extension mechanism [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:08:00 <RalphS> move to next agendum
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Unknown RalphS: move to next agendum ←
14:08:00 <Zakim> agendum 3. "where is most current RDF/A spec and is it maintained along with design discussions?" taken up [from RalphS]
14:08:17 <ivan> ralph: how is the spec maintained?
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Unknown ralph: how is the spec maintained? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:08:33 <em> q+ to ask about the status of the XHTML 1.1 module work?
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Unknown em: q+ to ask about the status of the XHTML 1.1 module work? ←
14:08:35 <ivan> ben: there is a normative rdf/a work which will be integrated into the next draft of xhtml2
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Unknown ben: there is a normative rdf/a work which will be integrated into the next draft of xhtml2 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:08:42 <plh> shutr.com/shutr.net are only examples. better use example.com!
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Unknown plh: shutr.com/shutr.net are only examples. better use example.com! ←
14:08:43 <ivan> ... the primer becomes a w3c note
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Unknown ivan: ... the primer becomes a w3c note ←
14:08:46 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/ RDF in XHTML Task Force home page
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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/ RDF in XHTML Task Force home page ←
14:09:03 <ivan> ... it is not clear how the xhtml1.1 modularization will go, that is a recent development
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Unknown ivan: ... it is not clear how the xhtml1.1 modularization will go, that is a recent development ←
14:09:09 <em> q-
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Unknown em: q- ←
14:09:09 <DanC> Steven, so that changed from HTML 2/3.2/4 to XHTML 1.1. Interesting. It raises another old thread, connection of HTML standards work with validator.w3.org
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Unknown DanC: Steven, so that changed from HTML 2/3.2/4 to XHTML 1.1. Interesting. It raises another old thread, connection of HTML standards work with validator.w3.org ←
14:09:17 <ivan> ... the curie is a separate document, meant to be part of xhtml2
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Unknown ivan: ... the curie is a separate document, meant to be part of xhtml2 ←
14:09:32 <karl> Steven, only in XHTML 1.0 because in HTML 4.01 - http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#didx-error "This specification does not define how conforming user agents handle general error conditions, including how user agents behave when they encounter elements, attributes, attribute values, or entities not specified in this document."
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Unknown karl: Steven, only in XHTML 1.0 because in HTML 4.01 - http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#didx-error "This specification does not define how conforming user agents handle general error conditions, including how user agents behave when they encounter elements, attributes, attribute values, or entities not specified in this document." ←
14:09:37 <RalphS> move to next agendum
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Unknown RalphS: move to next agendum ←
14:09:37 <Zakim> agendum 4. "RDF/A and GRDDL harmony" taken up [from Danny]
14:09:45 <Steven> Karl, I'm talking about XHTML
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Unknown Steven: Karl, I'm talking about XHTML ←
14:09:57 <ivan> danny: I hoped the rdf/a grdddl harmony is the last item:-)
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Unknown danny: I hoped the rdf/a grdddl harmony is the last item:-) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:10:07 <Steven> HTML4 says "However, to facilitate experimentation and interoperability between implementations of various versions of HTML, we recommend the following behavior:
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Unknown Steven: HTML4 says "However, to facilitate experimentation and interoperability between implementations of various versions of HTML, we recommend the following behavior: ←
14:10:07 <Steven> If a user agent encounters an element it does not recognize, it should try to render the element's content.
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Unknown Steven: If a user agent encounters an element it does not recognize, it should try to render the element's content. ←
14:10:07 <Steven> If a user agent encounters an attribute it does not recognize, it should ignore the entire attribute specification (i.e., the attribute and its value)."
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Unknown Steven: If a user agent encounters an attribute it does not recognize, it should ignore the entire attribute specification (i.e., the attribute and its value)." ←
14:10:20 <karl> not mandatory ;)
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Unknown karl: not mandatory ;) ←
14:10:27 <ivan> ... i would be happy to reserve 5-10 minutes on the rdfa/grddl issue
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Unknown ivan: ... i would be happy to reserve 5-10 minutes on the rdfa/grddl issue ←
14:10:28 <Steven> Recommnended
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Unknown Steven: Recommnended ←
14:10:30 <karl> HTML 4.01 to be fixed
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Unknown karl: HTML 4.01 to be fixed ←
14:10:35 <Zakim> -Thomas
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Thomas ←
14:10:56 <ivan> ben: from the cc point of view grddl is a great technology in particular with xml datasets
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Unknown ben: from the cc point of view grddl is a great technology in particular with xml datasets [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:11:13 <ivan> ... people want to have cc with their dataset
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Unknown ivan: ... people want to have cc with their dataset ←
14:11:21 <ivan> ... they could do with schemas but too complex
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Unknown ivan: ... they could do with schemas but too complex ←
14:11:27 <karl> and just above the HTML 4.01 section "The following notes are informative, not normative. Despite the appearance of words such as "must" and "should", all requirements in this section appear elsewhere in the specification."
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Unknown karl: and just above the HTML 4.01 section "The following notes are informative, not normative. Despite the appearance of words such as "must" and "should", all requirements in this section appear elsewhere in the specification." ←
14:11:45 <ivan> ... grddl is a wonderful tool for this: add your metadata wherever you want and grddl will take care of it
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Unknown ivan: ... grddl is a wonderful tool for this: add your metadata wherever you want and grddl will take care of it ←
14:12:23 <ivan> danny: w3c seems to move that rdf/a and grddl will happen both of them, the only concern I have is to have the energy to work on both of them
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Unknown danny: w3c seems to move that rdf/a and grddl will happen both of them, the only concern I have is to have the energy to work on both of them [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:12:30 <Steven> q+ to talk about grddl
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Unknown Steven: q+ to talk about grddl ←
14:13:13 <ivan> danny: the concern i have to make sure we do not avoid the potentially harder task of brining everybody around the same task
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Unknown danny: the concern i have to make sure we do not avoid the potentially harder task of bringing everybody around the same task [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:13:20 <ivan> s/brining/bringing/
14:13:37 <ivan> ben: from my point of view having both is compatible
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Unknown ben: from my point of view having both is compatible [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:13:51 <ivan> ... rdf/a is putting rdf into xhtml
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Unknown ivan: ... rdf/a is putting rdf into xhtml ←
14:13:59 <RalphS> Ben: RDF/A is all about making HTML a first-class serialization for RDF
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Unknown Ben: RDF/A is all about making HTML a first-class serialization for RDF [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
14:14:03 <ivan> ... grddl is a way to extract already existing huge datasets
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Unknown ivan: ... grddl is a way to extract already existing huge datasets ←
14:14:06 <Zakim> -Klaus
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14:14:07 <DanC> q+ to note class="dtstart" vs rel="cal:dtstart" is the way this issue show up to users. I have a hard time picking the winner there, though I can sympathize with user's requests to 'pick one'
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Unknown DanC: q+ to note class="dtstart" vs rel="cal:dtstart" is the way this issue show up to users. I have a hard time picking the winner there, though I can sympathize with user's requests to 'pick one' ←
14:14:33 <ivan> .. when people use microformats... the grddl way works for them
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Unknown ivan: .. when people use microformats... the grddl way works for them ←
14:14:41 <ivan> ... all paths leads to rdf :-)
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Unknown ivan: ... all paths leads to rdf :-) ←
14:14:49 <Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to note one deployment path for RDF/A
Zakim IRC Bot: RalphS, you wanted to note one deployment path for RDF/A ←
14:15:01 <DanC> q+ to ask about a GRDDL transformation connected to the XHTML 1 namespace
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Unknown DanC: q+ to ask about a GRDDL transformation connected to the XHTML 1 namespace ←
14:15:09 <plh> (on a side Note, the Curie note status should be updated to indicate that this is not a W3C Note)
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Unknown plh: (on a side Note, the Curie note status should be updated to indicate that this is not a W3C Note) ←
14:15:10 <SusanL> Eric, the demo today uses DC 1.1 http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/
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Unknown SusanL: Eric, the demo today uses DC 1.1 http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/ ←
14:15:22 <SusanL> thus the question about where license came from
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Unknown SusanL: thus the question about where license came from ←
14:15:29 <ivan> ralph: we already hear people reflecting the confusion about different sw things, microformats offer a simple ways
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Unknown ralph: we already hear people reflecting the confusion about different sw things, microformats offer a simple ways [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:15:41 <ivan> ralph: grddl vs. rdf/a I see a common case for them
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Unknown ralph: grddl vs. rdf/a I see a common case for them [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:16:20 <ivan> ... grdddl allows for schema developers to define any language with metadata and grddl gives a way to extract the data
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Unknown ivan: ... grdddl allows for schema developers to define any language with metadata and grddl gives a way to extract the data ←
14:16:35 <ivan> ... maybe later the tools will just be hardwired, ultimately
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Unknown ivan: ... maybe later the tools will just be hardwired, ultimately ←
14:16:57 <ivan> ... the grddl tool is inherently part of the processing pipeline ahead of everything else
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Unknown ivan: ... the grddl tool is inherently part of the processing pipeline ahead of everything else ←
14:17:11 <Zakim> -Felix
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14:17:13 <ivan> ... the other processors can know grddl natively as well
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Unknown ivan: ... the other processors can know grddl natively as well ←
14:17:41 <ivan> ... for rdf/a the same thing, they should be use grddl to extract the triples and then pass it on
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Unknown ivan: ... for rdf/a the same thing, they should be use grddl to extract the triples and then pass it on ←
14:17:50 <ivan> ... grddl becomes a useful tool for rdf/a
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Unknown ivan: ... grddl becomes a useful tool for rdf/a ←
14:18:01 <ivan> ... but some other tools may have rdf/a hardwired in the tools
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Unknown ivan: ... but some other tools may have rdf/a hardwired in the tools ←
14:18:12 <ivan> .. this is where xhtml becomes a first class syntax for rdf
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Unknown ivan: .. this is where xhtml becomes a first class syntax for rdf ←
14:18:25 <ivan> ... ben's bookmarklets are good exampls
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Unknown ivan: ... ben's bookmarklets are good examples ←
14:18:31 <ivan> s/exampls/examples/
14:18:40 <ivan> ... grddl might be a critical tool to deploy rdf/a
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Unknown ivan: ... grddl might be a critical tool to deploy rdf/a ←
14:18:52 <Zakim> -TimBL
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14:18:55 <ivan> .. i see them a mutually supportive
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Unknown ivan: .. i see them a mutually supportive ←
14:19:14 <Zakim> Steven, you wanted to talk about grddl
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14:19:18 <ivan> ... but indeed this may lead to some confusions
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Unknown ivan: ... but indeed this may lead to some confusions ←
14:19:24 <em> +1 (to both the relationship and the issue of multiple options)
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Unknown em: +1 (to both the relationship and the issue of multiple options) ←
14:19:35 <ivan> steven: support what ralph is saying, they are a pair going hand in hand
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Unknown steven: support what ralph is saying, they are a pair going hand in hand [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:19:45 <em> q+
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Unknown em: q+ ←
14:19:46 <ivan> :-(
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Unknown ivan: :-( ←
14:19:46 <Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note class="dtstart" vs rel="cal:dtstart" is the way this issue show up to users. I have a hard time picking the winner there, though I can sympathize with
Zakim IRC Bot: DanC, you wanted to note class="dtstart" vs rel="cal:dtstart" is the way this issue show up to users. I have a hard time picking the winner there, though I can sympathize with ←
14:19:51 <Zakim> ... user's requests to 'pick one' and to ask about a GRDDL transformation connected to the XHTML 1 namespace
Zakim IRC Bot: ... user's requests to 'pick one' and to ask about a GRDDL transformation connected to the XHTML 1 namespace ←
14:19:55 <benadida> q+ to talk about Live Clipboard
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Unknown benadida: q+ to talk about Live Clipboard ←
14:20:22 <ivan> danc: i subscribe to this, but a guy who wants to put calendar into my page, i have a hard time telling them which one to choose
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Unknown danc: i subscribe to this, but a guy who wants to put calendar into my page, i have a hard time telling them which one to choose [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:20:35 <ivan> ... that might become a problem
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Unknown ivan: ... that might become a problem ←
14:20:53 <Steven> q+ to note extensibility
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Unknown Steven: q+ to note extensibility ←
14:20:57 <ivan> danny: the xml example is a good one, there grddl is the only solution
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Unknown danny: the xml example is a good one, there grddl is the only solution [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:21:12 <ivan> ... microformats are a more complicated case, you can use either approach
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Unknown ivan: ... microformats are a more complicated case, you can use either approach ←
14:21:34 <ivan> ericm: ralph's point about the relationship is the one makes the most sense.
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Unknown ericm: ralph's point about the relationship is the one makes the most sense. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:21:51 <ivan> ... offering people different solutions, that might become an issue
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Unknown ivan: ... offering people different solutions, that might become an issue ←
14:22:25 <ivan> ... ben, when you talk to people about this, encourage you to ask them to send comments to the list
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Unknown ivan: ... ben, when you talk to people about this, encourage you to ask them to send comments to the list ←
14:22:28 <DanC> (er... I haven't heard the ozzie clipboard folks show any interest in RDF, unfortunately)
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Unknown DanC: (er... I haven't heard the ozzie clipboard folks show any interest in RDF, unfortunately) ←
14:22:36 <Zakim> benadida, you wanted to talk about Live Clipboard
Zakim IRC Bot: benadida, you wanted to talk about Live Clipboard ←
14:22:36 <ivan> ... to understand the different use cases
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Unknown ivan: ... to understand the different use cases ←
14:22:59 <IanJ> I have not seen this Dmo
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Unknown IanJ: I have not seen this Dmo ←
14:23:00 <IanJ> demo
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Unknown IanJ: demo ←
14:23:23 <ivan> ben: I would get back to the self-containenment requirement; this is one that grddl does not provide
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Unknown ben: I would get back to the self-containenment requirement; this is one that grddl does not provide [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:23:46 <IanJ> Live Clipboard Demo
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Unknown IanJ: Live Clipboard Demo ←
14:23:46 <ivan> ... it is much harder in grddl to point back to the origin of a triple
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Unknown ivan: ... it is much harder in grddl to point back to the origin of a triple ←
14:24:07 <plh> -> http://spaces.msn.com/rayozzie/blog/cns!FB3017FBB9B2E142!285.entry Live clipbord
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Unknown plh: -> http://spaces.msn.com/rayozzie/blog/cns!FB3017FBB9B2E142!285.entry Live clipboard ←
14:24:18 <plh> s/bord/board/
14:24:52 <ivan> ben: the code that works on the page has to know about the microformat itself
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Unknown ben: the code that works on the page has to know about all the microformats itself [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:25:00 <ivan> ... i have to change the parser tool
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Unknown ivan: ... i have to change the parser tool ←
14:25:01 <plh> -> http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboardexample.html Live Clipboard Example
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Unknown plh: -> http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboardexample.html Live Clipboard Example ←
14:25:19 <RalphS> s/about the microformat/about all the microformats/
14:25:25 <ivan> ... the idea about rdf/a is that we can build a generic tool
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Unknown ivan: ... the idea about rdf/a is that we can build a generic tool ←
14:25:37 <ivan> danny: what are our expectation?
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Unknown danny: what are our expectation? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:25:58 <ivan> ... that browsers will provide the native abilities to extract the rdf data just like the dom is created?
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Unknown ivan: ... that browsers will provide the native abilities to extract the rdf data just like the dom is created? ←
14:26:21 <ivan> ... the distinction is relevant for the longer evolution of the browser
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Unknown ivan: ... the distinction is relevant for the longer evolution of the browser ←
14:26:28 <em> .me almost heard Ben describe RDF/A as a framework to support microformats
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Unknown em: .me almost heard Ben describe RDF/A as a framework to support microformats ←
14:26:35 <RalphS> Ralph: browsers may also use the triples themselves; e.g. to popup licenses
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Unknown Ralph: browsers may also use the triples themselves; e.g. to popup licenses [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←
14:26:41 <em> ... extensibility and interoperability
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Unknown em: ... extensibility and interoperability ←
14:26:42 <karl> zakim, mute me
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Unknown karl: zakim, mute me ←
14:26:42 <Zakim> Karl was already muted, karl
Zakim IRC Bot: Karl was already muted, karl ←
14:27:06 <SusanL> Re: license: http://www.dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2004/2004-01.Rights-terms.shtml "The approval of these two 'conforming' terms is not intended
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Unknown Re: license: http://www.dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2004/2004-01.Rights-terms.shtml "The approval of these two 'conforming' terms is not intended [ Scribe Assist by Unknown SusanL ] ←
14:27:07 <SusanL> to preclude the use of more sophisticated solutions..."
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Unknown SusanL: to preclude the use of more sophisticated solutions..." ←
14:27:43 <Zakim> Steven, you wanted to note extensibility
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14:28:52 <DanC> q+ to agree with Ben that RDF/A is closer to a clipboard solution than microformats, but it involves getting all those folks learning hCard and hCalendar to learn to write property="cal:dtstart" where they're now leaning class="dtstart"
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Unknown DanC: q+ to agree with Ben that RDF/A is closer to a clipboard solution than microformats, but it involves getting all those folks learning hCard and hCalendar to learn to write property="cal:dtstart" where they're now leaning class="dtstart" ←
14:29:30 <Zakim> DanC, you wanted to agree with Ben that RDF/A is closer to a clipboard solution than microformats, but it involves getting all those folks learning hCard and hCalendar to learn to
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14:29:34 <Zakim> ... write property="cal:dtstart" where they're now leaning class="dtstart"
Zakim IRC Bot: ... write property="cal:dtstart" where they're now leaning class="dtstart" ←
14:29:53 <ivan> danc: the bootstrapping is happing now, like the event pages,
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Unknown danc: the bootstrapping is happing now, like the event pages, [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:30:08 <Danny> q+ to mention author/reader model that Tim talks about. Seems like the tension here is author/app developer
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Unknown Danny: q+ to mention author/reader model that Tim talks about. Seems like the tension here is author/app developer ←
14:30:11 <ivan> ... there is a whole place with people producing and consuming things
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Unknown ivan: ... there is a whole place with people producing and consuming things ←
14:30:15 <em> q+
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Unknown em: q+ ←
14:30:17 <karl> they don't care
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Unknown karl: they don't care ←
14:30:19 <karl> :)
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Unknown karl: :) ←
14:30:24 <ivan> ... it will be hard to compete with the existing stuff
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Unknown ivan: ... it will be hard to compete with the existing stuff ←
14:30:39 <ivan> ... if use rdf/a then people will have to use other syntax
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Unknown ivan: ... if use rdf/a then people will have to use other syntax ←
14:30:48 <Danny> q+ to ask how RDF/A aware browsers would consumer GRDDL
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Unknown Danny: q+ to ask how RDF/A aware browsers would consumer GRDDL ←
14:30:55 <karl> microformats community doesn't want to be universal
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Unknown karl: microformats community doesn't want to be universal ←
14:31:03 <ivan> ... it uses property= and not class= and the microformat are used to class=
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Unknown ivan: ... it uses property= and not class= and the microformat are used to class= ←
14:31:08 <em> q-
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Unknown em: q- ←
14:31:14 <ivan> ralph: back to the namespace problem
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Unknown ralph: back to the namespace problem [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:31:16 <DanC> Zakim, is Chris here?
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Unknown DanC: Zakim, is Chris here? ←
14:31:16 <Zakim> DanC, I see Chris in another telecon
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14:31:44 <DanC> Regrets+ Chris
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Unknown DanC: Regrets+ Chris ←
14:31:45 <DanC> frap
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Unknown DanC: frap ←
14:31:49 <Zakim> Danny, you wanted to mention author/reader model that Tim talks about. Seems like the tension here is author/app developer and to ask how RDF/A aware browsers would consumer GRDDL
Zakim IRC Bot: Danny, you wanted to mention author/reader model that Tim talks about. Seems like the tension here is author/app developer and to ask how RDF/A aware browsers would consumer GRDDL ←
14:32:11 <em> (clap clap)
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Unknown em: (clap clap) ←
14:32:11 <SusanL> Thank you Ben
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Unknown SusanL: Thank you Ben ←
14:32:12 <Zakim> -Ian
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14:32:15 <Zakim> -Alan
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14:32:17 <Zakim> -Keio
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14:32:19 <karl> (mixing community is always better)
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Unknown karl: (mixing community is always better) ←
14:32:19 <benadida> thanks for al the great comments
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Unknown benadida: thanks for al the great comments ←
14:32:35 <ivan> danny: tim has given a talk on author /reader tension
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Unknown danny: tim has given a talk on author /reader tension [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ivan ] ←
14:32:40 <Zakim> -Steven
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14:32:48 <ivan> ... it is relevant to the tradeoff here
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Unknown ivan: ... it is relevant to the tradeoff here ←
14:33:13 <ivan> ... loose coupling you are looking for plays in the author/developers pair
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Unknown ivan: ... loose coupling you are looking for plays in the author/developers pair ←
14:33:21 <ivan> ... it is a compelling argument for rdf/a
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Unknown ivan: ... it is a compelling argument for rdf/a ←
14:33:53 <ivan> ... how do you imagine a browser way?
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Unknown ivan: ... how do you imagine a browser way? ←
14:34:28 <Zakim> -Karl
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14:34:43 <DanC> ADJOURN
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Unknown DanC: ADJOURN ←
14:34:47 <RalphS> [adjourned]
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Unknown RalphS: [adjourned] ←
14:34:49 <Zakim> -SusanL
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14:34:55 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
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Unknown ivan: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:34:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-minutes.html ivan
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14:34:58 <Zakim> -Carine
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14:35:08 <Zakim> -Cedric
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14:35:10 <ivan> rrsagent, set minutes team
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Unknown ivan: rrsagent, set minutes team ←
14:35:10 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'set minutes team', ivan. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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14:35:14 <RalphS> zakim, list participants
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, list participants ←
14:35:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Ralph, Karl, Carine, Shawn, Marisol, Mcf, fumi, mimasa, Klaus, Dom, Maxf, Steven, Chibao, Dave, Karen, Caroline, SusanL, Ian, Ht, Hugo,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Ralph, Karl, Carine, Shawn, Marisol, Mcf, fumi, mimasa, Klaus, Dom, Maxf, Steven, Chibao, Dave, Karen, Caroline, SusanL, Ian, Ht, Hugo, ←
14:35:17 <Zakim> ... Philipp, Cedric, Kazuyuki, Emiller, Ivan, Bert, Alan, Ishida, Felix, Philippe, Thomas, koalie, Judy, Jose, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson, DanC, Dean, Yves, TimBL, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Philipp, Cedric, Kazuyuki, Emiller, Ivan, Bert, Alan, Ishida, Felix, Philippe, Thomas, koalie, Judy, Jose, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson, DanC, Dean, Yves, TimBL, Sandro ←
14:35:22 <RalphS> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:35:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/04/06-rdfa-minutes.html RalphS
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14:36:52 <plh> at some point, I'd like to understand how this works has more chance to succeed, than the RSS 1.0 format.
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Unknown plh: at some point, I'd like to understand how this works has more chance to succeed, than the RSS 1.0 format. ←
14:42:59 <Zakim> Team_Global(review)8:00AM has been moved to &comm
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14:44:32 <RalphS> zakim, move review to here
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Unknown RalphS: zakim, move review to here ←
14:44:33 <Zakim> ok, RalphS; that matches Team_Global(review)8:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, RalphS; that matches Team_Global(review)8:00AM ←
14:47:31 <jose> zakim, drop me
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Unknown jose: zakim, drop me ←
14:47:31 <Zakim> Jose is being disconnected
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14:47:32 <Zakim> -Jose
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14:50:08 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 10 minutes; all ports must be freed
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14:55:11 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 5 minutes; all ports must be freed
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14:55:55 <Zakim> -MIT531
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14:55:56 <Zakim> -DanC
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14:55:57 <Zakim> -Emiller
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14:55:59 <Zakim> -Ivan
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14:56:02 <Zakim> -Bert
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14:56:03 <Zakim> -Sandro
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14:56:06 <Zakim> -Chibao
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Chibao ←
14:57:07 <dom> Zakim, drop dom
Scribe problem: the name 'dom' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'dom' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown dom: Zakim, drop dom ←
14:57:07 <Zakim> Dom is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Dom is being disconnected ←
14:58:05 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 2 minutes; all ports must be freed
Zakim IRC Bot: This conference is scheduled to end in 2 minutes; all ports must be freed ←
14:59:05 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 1 minute; all ports must be freed
Zakim IRC Bot: This conference is scheduled to end in 1 minute; all ports must be freed ←
15:00:07 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end now; all ports must be freed immediately
Zakim IRC Bot: This conference is scheduled to end now; all ports must be freed immediately ←
15:00:15 <Zakim> The time reserved for this conference has been exceeded. 9 ports must be freed
Zakim IRC Bot: The time reserved for this conference has been exceeded. 9 ports must be freed ←
15:00:23 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
Scribe problem: the name 'sandro' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'sandro' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown sandro: zakim, who is here? ←
15:00:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see no one ←
15:00:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see sandro, plh, dino, jose, em, IanJ, DanC, klaus, Steven, Bert, dom, tlr, RRSAgent, Zakim, RalphS
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see sandro, plh, dino, jose, em, IanJ, DanC, klaus, Steven, Bert, dom, tlr, RRSAgent, Zakim, RalphS ←
15:02:01 <Steven> zakim, drop no one
Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Steven: zakim, drop no one ←
15:02:10 <em> zakim, drop emiller
Scribe problem: the name 'em' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'em' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown em: zakim, drop emiller ←
15:02:44 <Zakim> I don't understand 'drop no one', Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'drop no one', Steven ←
15:02:50 <Zakim> sorry, em, I do not see a party named 'emiller'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, em, I do not see a party named 'emiller' ←
15:15:41 <Zakim> Team_Global(review)8:00AM has ended
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Zakim IRC Bot: Team_Global(review)8:00AM has ended ←
15:15:42 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, Karl, Carine, Shawn, Marisol, Mcf, fumi, mimasa, Klaus, Dom, Maxf, Steven, Chibao, Dave, Karen, Caroline, SusanL, Ian, Ht, Hugo, Philipp, Cedric, Kazuyuki,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Ralph, Karl, Carine, Shawn, Marisol, Mcf, fumi, mimasa, Klaus, Dom, Maxf, Steven, Chibao, Dave, Karen, Caroline, SusanL, Ian, Ht, Hugo, Philipp, Cedric, Kazuyuki, ←
15:15:46 <Zakim> ... Emiller, Ivan, Bert, Alan, Ishida, Felix, Philippe, Thomas, koalie, Judy, Jose, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson, DanC, Dean, Yves, TimBL, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Emiller, Ivan, Bert, Alan, Ishida, Felix, Philippe, Thomas, koalie, Judy, Jose, Ben_Adida, Danny, Hal_Abelson, DanC, Dean, Yves, TimBL, Sandro ←
15:16:02 <Steven> Zakim wakes up
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Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Steven: Zakim wakes up ←
15:17:28 <RalphS> zakim, bye
Scribe problem: the name 'RalphS' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'RalphS' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown RalphS: zakim, bye ←
15:17:32 <RalphS> rrsagent, bye
Scribe problem: the name 'RalphS' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'RalphS' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown RalphS: rrsagent, bye ←
15:17:32 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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