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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 18 July 2013

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Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Dave Reynolds, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Joao Almeida, John Erickson, Marios Meimaris, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau
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Sandro Hawke
IRC Log
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Resolutions
  1. Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20 link
  2. Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff) link
  3. Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html link
  4. The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR. link
  5. Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed. link
Topics
13:58:19 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc

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13:58:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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13:58:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:58:24 <trackbot> Date: 18 July 2013
13:58:40 <sandro> RRSAgent, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, who is on the call?

13:58:40 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'who is on the call'

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13:58:53 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call?

13:58:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see +3539149aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +3539149aaaa

13:59:02 <fadmaa> Zkim, +353 is me

Fadi Maali: Zkim, +353 is me

13:59:14 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353 is me

13:59:14 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it

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13:59:20 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aabb

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13:59:28 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aabb is me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, aabb is me

13:59:28 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

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13:59:49 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.540.898.aacc

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14:00:15 <bhyland> zakim, aacc is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aacc is me

14:00:15 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

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14:00:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:00:32 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:00:52 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P13 is /me

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, ??P13 is /me

14:00:52 <Zakim> +/me; got it

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14:01:00 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P13 is BenediktKaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, ??P13 is BenediktKaempgen

14:01:00 <Zakim> I already had ??P13 as /me, BenediktKaempgen

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14:01:22 <Zakim> +??P15

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14:01:33 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p15 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p15 is me

14:01:33 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

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14:01:45 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, /me is BenediktKaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, /me is BenediktKaempgen

14:01:45 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

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14:01:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:02:04 <olyerickson> Zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

John Erickson: Zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

14:02:04 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

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14:02:11 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

14:02:22 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fadmaa (9%), Sandro (48%), bhyland (10%), BenediktKaempgen (25%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fadmaa (9%), Sandro (48%), bhyland (10%), BenediktKaempgen (25%)

14:02:33 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me

14:02:33 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

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14:02:43 <bhyland> Please reload your agenda page all

Bernadette Hyland: Please reload your agenda page all

14:04:11 <olyerickson> Vermont is definitely "crazy..." and philosophically far away

John Erickson: Vermont is definitely "crazy..." and philosophically far away

14:04:49 <olyerickson> Let's all listen to bhyland and sandro as they sounds great ;)

John Erickson: Let's all listen to bhyland and sandro as they sounds great ;)

14:05:24 <sandro> scribe: sandro

(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)

14:05:46 <bhyland> Propose to accept minutes from last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

Bernadette Hyland: Propose to accept minutes from last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

14:05:54 <sandro> bhyland: I'm chairing while Hadley looks for a better phone connection

Bernadette Hyland: I'm chairing while Hadley looks for a better phone connection

14:06:01 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:06:08 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:06:08 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

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14:06:09 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:06:11 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

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14:06:11 <sandro> PROPOSED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

PROPOSED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

14:06:14 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:06:19 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:06:22 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:06:36 <sandro> RESOLVED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

RESOLVED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20

14:06:41 <Zakim> +??P32

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14:06:41 <olyerickson> +1 to last meetings minutes

John Erickson: +1 to last meetings minutes

14:06:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P32 is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P32 is me

14:06:48 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

14:07:13 <sandro> bhyland: Agenda: (1) extension process, (2) transitions for dcat, regorg, adms, ucr documents

Bernadette Hyland: Agenda: (1) extension process, (2) transitions for dcat, regorg, adms, ucr documents

14:07:26 <sandro> topic: Charter Extension

1. Charter Extension

14:07:27 <bhyland> Extension request, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Charter_Extension

Bernadette Hyland: Extension request, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Charter_Extension

14:07:51 <sandro> bhyland: This is a document going to W3C management to ask for extension to end of year.

Bernadette Hyland: This is a document going to W3C management to ask for extension to end of year.

14:08:19 <DaveReynolds> Isn't ORG already in CR?

Dave Reynolds: Isn't ORG already in CR?

14:08:36 <DaveReynolds> nevermind, now parsed the table

Dave Reynolds: nevermind, now parsed the table

14:08:42 <sandro> sandro: See Timeline at end of work to do

Sandro Hawke: See Timeline at end of work to do

14:09:19 <sandro> sandro: I'll change blank boxes to "done"

Sandro Hawke: I'll change blank boxes to "done"

14:09:33 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:09:40 <sandro> bhyland: any questions?

Bernadette Hyland: any questions?

14:10:21 <sandro> bhyland: Please confirm your status on participation list.

Bernadette Hyland: Please confirm your status on participation list.

14:10:41 <sandro> bhyland: We might move to bi-weekly schedule, perhaps.

Bernadette Hyland: We might move to bi-weekly schedule, perhaps.

14:10:52 <sandro> bhyland: if there's appropriate feedback on mailing list.

Bernadette Hyland: if there's appropriate feedback on mailing list.

14:10:55 <olyerickson> +1 to my continuing participation

John Erickson: +1 to my continuing participation

14:11:01 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

14:11:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:11:07 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:11:07 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

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14:11:12 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:11:23 <DaveReynolds> +1 for continued participation

Dave Reynolds: +1 for continued participation

14:11:31 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:11:31 <Zakim> TallTed was not muted, TallTed

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14:13:51 <HadleyBeeman> Re meetings:  Specifically I wanted to ask the editors:  Would it be more helpful to have a once/week check-in with us (short weekly meetings) - OR meet every two weeks or so for more in-depth discussions?

Hadley Beeman: Re meetings: Specifically I wanted to ask the editors: Would it be more helpful to have a once/week check-in with us (short weekly meetings) - OR meet every two weeks or so for more in-depth discussions?

14:13:52 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:13:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:13:55 <sandro> bhyland: Do we want to move to twice a month

Bernadette Hyland: Do we want to move to twice a month

14:14:08 <olyerickson> 2x/mo okay but weekly poke emails would be useful

John Erickson: 2x/mo okay but weekly poke emails would be useful

14:14:25 <bhyland> @olyerickson, agree.

Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson, agree.

14:14:34 <gatemezi> +1 to olyerickson proposal

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to olyerickson proposal

14:14:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:14:39 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:14:42 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, davereynolds.  That's helpful

Hadley Beeman: thanks, davereynolds. That's helpful

14:14:49 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

14:14:49 <sandro> sandro: How about cancel some meetings over the summer, and then see

Sandro Hawke: How about cancel some meetings over the summer, and then see

14:14:53 <HadleyBeeman> :)

Hadley Beeman: :)

14:14:59 <sandro> bhyland: Sounds good

Bernadette Hyland: Sounds good

14:15:27 <sandro> (hadley has no functioning audio)

(hadley has no functioning audio)

14:15:31 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me

14:15:31 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

14:15:37 <sandro> topic: DCAT Last Call

2. DCAT Last Call

14:15:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:15:45 <sandro> bhyland: Fadi, where are we?

Bernadette Hyland: Fadi, where are we?

14:15:50 <HadleyBeeman> I can hear, sandro — just can't speak very well. Bad bandwidth management!

Hadley Beeman: I can hear, sandro — just can't speak very well. Bad bandwidth management!

14:16:02 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me

Marios Meimaris: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:16:02 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MariosMeimaris; got it

14:16:04 <bhyland> Timeline & checklist for DCAT, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable

Bernadette Hyland: Timeline & checklist for DCAT, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable

14:16:23 <sandro> fadmaa: John and I went through all the issues, all the email.   Some changes might count as substantive, so second last call.  All changes reflected in spec.

Fadi Maali: John and I went through all the issues, all the email. Some changes might count as substantive, so second last call. All changes reflected in spec.

14:16:47 <olyerickson> -1 to re-re-re reading

John Erickson: -1 to re-re-re reading

14:16:47 <sandro> fadmaa: It would be good if at least one other person read over this spec, but maybe that's not necessary.

Fadi Maali: It would be good if at least one other person read over this spec, but maybe that's not necessary.

14:16:51 <bhyland> DCAT CR Transition write up, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_CR_transition

Bernadette Hyland: DCAT CR Transition write up, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_CR_transition

14:17:23 <bhyland> DCAT last edits by Fadi as of 25 June 2013, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html

Bernadette Hyland: DCAT last edits by Fadi as of 25 June 2013, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html

14:18:10 <bhyland> Propose To publish DCAT next Tuesday 23-July

Bernadette Hyland: Propose To publish DCAT next Tuesday 23-July

14:18:10 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to sandro's proposal.

Hadley Beeman: +1 to sandro's proposal.

14:18:13 <olyerickson> bhyland: is there an exemplar of a completed instance of that doc?

Bernadette Hyland: is there an exemplar of a completed instance of that doc? [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

14:18:21 <sandro> fadmaa: I expect to be able to put in the work to continue.

Fadi Maali: I expect to be able to put in the work to continue.

14:18:41 <sandro> sandro: Let's resolve to publish today, but give people 24 hrs to review again if they want.

Sandro Hawke: Let's resolve to publish today, but give people 24 hrs to review again if they want.

14:19:11 <bhyland> Sandro's proposal was for everyone to do one last sanity check Thursday or Friday today.

Bernadette Hyland: Sandro's proposal was for everyone to do one last sanity check Thursday or Friday today.

14:19:21 <olyerickson> +1 to "publish today but review over next 24 hours"

John Erickson: +1 to "publish today but review over next 24 hours"

14:20:16 <DaveReynolds> E.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#change-history

Dave Reynolds: E.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#change-history

14:20:19 <sandro> sandro: Please put change log in appendix.

Sandro Hawke: Please put change log in appendix.

14:20:28 <bhyland> Action: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix

ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix

14:20:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-146 - Put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-07-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-146 - Put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-07-25].

14:20:41 <bhyland> ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG

ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG

14:20:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-147 - Produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [on Sandro Hawke - due 2013-07-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-147 - Produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [on Sandro Hawke - due 2013-07-25].

14:21:06 <olyerickson> sandro: Do you mean something like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-vocab-data-cube-20130625/#change-history

Sandro Hawke: Do you mean something like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-vocab-data-cube-20130625/#change-history [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

14:21:25 <bhyland> Yes John

Bernadette Hyland: Yes John

14:21:38 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)

PROPOSED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)

14:21:43 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:21:47 <sandro> +1

+1

14:21:50 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:21:52 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

14:21:55 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:21:56 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:21:59 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:22:07 <MariosMeimaris> +1

Marios Meimaris: +1

14:22:13 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:22:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P2 is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P2 is me

14:22:18 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

14:22:24 <sandro> RESOLVED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)

RESOLVED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)

14:22:29 <olyerickson> I will do a final "language" review and notify fadmaa

John Erickson: I will do a final "language" review and notify fadmaa

14:22:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:22:35 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me

14:22:35 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted

14:23:07 <sandro> topic: ADMS

3. ADMS

14:23:12 <olyerickson> +1 to standing proposal

John Erickson: +1 to standing proposal

14:23:15 <MariosMeimaris> Sorry no mic but I'm not one of the editors of ADMS

Marios Meimaris: Sorry no mic but I'm not one of the editors of ADMS

14:23:17 <sandro> bhyland: MariosMeimaris can you summarize?

Bernadette Hyland: MariosMeimaris can you summarize?

14:23:27 <MariosMeimaris> No prob :)

Marios Meimaris: No prob :)

14:24:01 <sandro> sandro: I think the only change was to be in the acknowledgements.

Sandro Hawke: I think the only change was to be in the acknowledgements.

14:24:14 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0091.html

Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0091.html

14:24:33 <bhyland> I thought ADMS was already published as a WG Note so I'm unclear why it is on the agenda today ...

Bernadette Hyland: I thought ADMS was already published as a WG Note so I'm unclear why it is on the agenda today ...

14:24:37 <HadleyBeeman> Ah, sorry - that was the original publication.

Hadley Beeman: Ah, sorry - that was the original publication.

14:24:55 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro: it's the wrong email.

Sandro Hawke: it's the wrong email. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:25:17 <HadleyBeeman> Ah wait, found it!

Hadley Beeman: Ah wait, found it!

14:25:23 <sandro> we don't know what's going on.....

we don't know what's going on.....

14:25:27 <HadleyBeeman> This! http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

Hadley Beeman: This! http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

14:25:45 <HadleyBeeman> We just working group approval for this

Hadley Beeman: We just working group approval for this

14:26:12 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro, that fits with my understanding of this too.

Hadley Beeman: Sandro, that fits with my understanding of this too.

14:27:20 <sandro> PROPOSED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

PROPOSED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

14:27:21 <MariosMeimaris> I can confirm that no other content changes were performed on RegOrg since it was published as a WG note, as Phil says in the email. Last changes are described in the Change Log in http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/

Marios Meimaris: I can confirm that no other content changes were performed on RegOrg since it was published as a WG note, as Phil says in the email. Last changes are described in the Change Log in http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/

14:27:30 <olyerickson> PhilA is requesting very minor and non-substantive changes to ADMS and RegOrg...I don't see problem

John Erickson: PhilA is requesting very minor and non-substantive changes to ADMS and RegOrg...I don't see problem

14:27:33 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, mariosmeimaris

Hadley Beeman: thanks, mariosmeimaris

14:27:35 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:27:36 <sandro> +1

+1

14:27:38 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:27:39 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:27:43 <MariosMeimaris> +1

Marios Meimaris: +1

14:27:46 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:27:47 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:27:52 <olyerickson> +1

John Erickson: +1

14:27:57 <sandro> RESOLVED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

RESOLVED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html

14:27:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:28:12 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:28:24 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:28:33 <sandro> Topic: Best Practices

4. Best Practices

14:29:15 <gatemezi> I added references and there are some missing in the current version

Ghislain Atemezing: I added references and there are some missing in the current version

14:29:38 <sandro> bhyland: status update -- I haven't done anything in the past two months.  The other editors have done a little.   We need to get together and get it across the finish line.   Plan is to be a WG Note.   Boris and Ghislan and I need to confirm out edits.    Need to be mindful of suggestions from nl and uk.

Bernadette Hyland: status update -- I haven't done anything in the past two months. The other editors have done a little. We need to get together and get it across the finish line. Plan is to be a WG Note. Boris and Ghislan and I need to confirm out edits. Need to be mindful of suggestions from nl and uk.

14:29:52 <gatemezi> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html

Ghislain Atemezing: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html

14:29:56 <sandro> bhyland: URI strategies, need to make sure we're on the same page.

Bernadette Hyland: URI strategies, need to make sure we're on the same page.

14:30:01 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, bhyland

Hadley Beeman: thanks, bhyland

14:30:48 <sandro> bhyland: Dates...

Bernadette Hyland: Dates...

14:30:55 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:31:04 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?

Zakim, who is on the call?

14:31:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, MariosMeimaris, JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, MariosMeimaris, JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:31:42 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me

14:31:42 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

14:31:48 <sandro> bhyland: We'll get it to the WG to review by at least the end of august

Bernadette Hyland: We'll get it to the WG to review by at least the end of august

14:31:51 <fadmaa> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html

Fadi Maali: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html

14:31:56 <sandro> topic:  DCAT UCR

5. DCAT UCR

14:32:09 <sandro> bhyland: fadi, have we lost Richard entirely?

Bernadette Hyland: fadi, have we lost Richard entirely?

14:32:09 <olyerickson>  Note: "5 Star" section "4. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?" doesn't match LD Glossary

John Erickson: Note: "5 Star" section "4. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?" doesn't match LD Glossary

14:32:42 <sandro> fadmaa: I haven't been able to get ahold of Richard.

Fadi Maali: I haven't been able to get ahold of Richard.

14:32:52 <olyerickson> that was the previous topic (BP doc)

John Erickson: that was the previous topic (BP doc)

14:32:56 <sandro> bhyland: Can you do this?

Bernadette Hyland: Can you do this?

14:33:19 <sandro> fadmaa: I'm not sure what we agree to do with this document.

Fadi Maali: I'm not sure what we agree to do with this document.

14:33:33 <bhyland> Question was to Fadi, can you dedicate time to complete DCAT UCR to make it a fleshed out WG Note?

Bernadette Hyland: Question was to Fadi, can you dedicate time to complete DCAT UCR to make it a fleshed out WG Note?

14:33:34 <DaveReynolds> agree with Fadi, I thought we had already agreed this was unnecessary

Dave Reynolds: agree with Fadi, I thought we had already agreed this was unnecessary

14:33:49 <HadleyBeeman> I think we left it in your judgment, fadmaa.  And I know we talked about whether we can make it useful as "helpful implementation guidance"

Hadley Beeman: I think we left it in your judgment, fadmaa. And I know we talked about whether we can make it useful as "helpful implementation guidance"

14:33:58 <bhyland> @DaveReynolds, I recall the same

Bernadette Hyland: @DaveReynolds, I recall the same

14:34:02 <olyerickson> +1 to fadmaa and DaveReynolds

John Erickson: +1 to fadmaa and DaveReynolds

14:34:02 <sandro> fadmaa: Some of the use cases are not addressed by DCAT.  If we publish, someone might say "but dcat doesn't do this".     EG dcat doesn't include a mechanism to exchange the data.

Fadi Maali: Some of the use cases are not addressed by DCAT. If we publish, someone might say "but dcat doesn't do this". EG dcat doesn't include a mechanism to exchange the data.

14:34:21 <sandro> bhyland: I'm okay with that.

Bernadette Hyland: I'm okay with that.

14:34:44 <HadleyBeeman> I'm okay with it too — but I think we should make it official

Hadley Beeman: I'm okay with it too — but I think we should make it official

14:35:16 <sandro> PROPOSED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.

PROPOSED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.

14:35:25 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

14:35:29 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:35:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:35:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:35:35 <olyerickson> It's more than losing an editor...it's simply that we didn't follow a use case driven process

John Erickson: It's more than losing an editor...it's simply that we didn't follow a use case driven process

14:35:35 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:35:39 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:35:42 <sandro> +0    sad, but I'm not about to do the work   :-)

+0 sad, but I'm not about to do the work :-)

14:35:50 <HadleyBeeman> well said, sandro :)

Hadley Beeman: well said, sandro :)

14:36:04 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me

14:36:04 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted

14:36:10 <gatemezi> +0

Ghislain Atemezing: +0

14:36:49 <sandro> RESOLVED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.

RESOLVED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.

14:36:54 <HadleyBeeman> Sure, bhyland… I'll update the table on the main wiki page

Hadley Beeman: Sure, bhyland… I'll update the table on the main wiki page

14:37:21 <olyerickson> The fact is that DCAT was well along when we entered the W3C process

John Erickson: The fact is that DCAT was well along when we entered the W3C process

14:37:26 <sandro> so, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html is left at that.

so, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html is left at that.

14:37:36 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:37:38 <sandro> topic: Data Cube UCR

6. Data Cube UCR

14:37:41 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html

Bernadette Hyland: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html

14:37:42 <BenediktKaempgen> Link to the current version of QB use case document: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html

Benedikt Kaempgen: Link to the current version of QB use case document: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html

14:37:45 <sandro> bhyland: BenediktKaempgen are you willing to own this and see it through?

Bernadette Hyland: BenediktKaempgen are you willing to own this and see it through?

14:37:50 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:37:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P2 is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P2 is me

14:37:54 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

14:38:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry about that

Joao Almeida: sorry about that

14:38:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> fixed now

Joao Almeida: fixed now

14:38:10 <bhyland> zakim, mute JoaoPauloAlmeida

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, mute JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:38:10 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

14:38:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I am muted

Joao Almeida: I am muted

14:38:21 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it wasn't me

Joao Almeida: it wasn't me

14:38:32 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> now it's ok

Joao Almeida: now it's ok

14:38:37 <BenediktKaempgen> 1) case studies of existing deployments of the earlier version of the data cube vocabulary. Example case study: "Publisher Case Study: Eurostat SDMX as Linked Data" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#publisher-case-study-eurostat-sdmx-as-linked-data

Benedikt Kaempgen: 1) case studies of existing deployments of the earlier version of the data cube vocabulary. Example case study: "Publisher Case Study: Eurostat SDMX as Linked Data" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#publisher-case-study-eurostat-sdmx-as-linked-data

14:38:48 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: The purpose of the document is to present use cases and lesses concerning data cube.  Includes Case Studies of existing deploeyments of earlier version.

Benedikt Kaempgen: The purpose of the document is to present use cases and lesses concerning data cube. Includes Case Studies of existing deploeyments of earlier version.

14:38:54 <bhyland> Benedikt

Bernadette Hyland: Benedikt

14:39:11 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute tallted

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute tallted

14:39:11 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:39:12 <bhyland> zakim, mute TallTed

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, mute TallTed

14:39:12 <Zakim> TallTed was already muted, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed was already muted, bhyland

14:39:12 <BenediktKaempgen> 2) other possible use cases that would benefit from using the vocabulary. Example use case: "Consumer Use Case: Visualising published statistical data in Google Public Data Explorer" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#consumer-use-case-visualising-published-statistical-data-in-google-public-data-explorer

Benedikt Kaempgen: 2) other possible use cases that would benefit from using the vocabulary. Example use case: "Consumer Use Case: Visualising published statistical data in Google Public Data Explorer" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#consumer-use-case-visualising-published-statistical-data-in-google-public-data-explorer

14:39:16 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Another content is use cases not yet deployed but that would benefit.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Another content is use cases not yet deployed but that would benefit.

14:39:42 <BenediktKaempgen> 3) We derive lessons that can be used for future work on the vocabulary as well as for useful tools complementing the vocabulary. Example lesson: "Modelers using ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements may need clarification regarding the relationship to the data cube vocabulary" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#modelers-using-iso19156---observations-measurements-may-need-clarification-regarding-the-relati[CUT]

Benedikt Kaempgen: 3) We derive lessons that can be used for future work on the vocabulary as well as for useful tools complementing the vocabulary. Example lesson: "Modelers using ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements may need clarification regarding the relationship to the data cube vocabulary" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#modelers-using-iso19156---observations-measurements-may-need-clarification-regarding-the-relati[CUT]

14:39:50 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: finally, we derive lessons for future work on vocab.

Benedikt Kaempgen: finally, we derive lessons for future work on vocab.

14:41:01 <bhyland> Benedikt: cygri put  a lot of work in at the beginning of the documents creation and he continued to provide valuable feedback.

Benedikt Kaempgen: cygri put a lot of work in at the beginning of the documents creation and he continued to provide valuable feedback. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:41:07 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Current status:    Richard not involved any more (since Feb 2013).      Good feedback from James, Phil, Dave.   answered by email.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Current status: Richard not involved any more (since Feb 2013). Good feedback from James, Phil, Dave. answered by email.

14:41:09 <bhyland> … should be listed as an editor because of this.

Bernadette Hyland: … should be listed as an editor because of this.

14:41:35 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: biggest change is we no longer list Requirements.    The ones we had were not really requirements, so we turned those into lessons.

Benedikt Kaempgen: biggest change is we no longer list Requirements. The ones we had were not really requirements, so we turned those into lessons.

14:41:43 <gatemezi> s/Benedikt/BenediktKaempgen
14:42:08 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Confirmed from commenters, except Phil.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Confirmed from commenters, except Phil.

14:42:23 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

14:42:32 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

zakim, who is talking?

14:42:43 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (24%), BenediktKaempgen (48%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (24%), BenediktKaempgen (48%)

14:42:47 <sandro> bhyland: The date still says Feb 27th.   Can you please update the date?

Bernadette Hyland: The date still says Feb 27th. Can you please update the date?

14:43:03 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: I assumed I wasn't supposed to do that yet.

Benedikt Kaempgen: I assumed I wasn't supposed to do that yet.

14:43:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:43:25 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

14:43:25 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

14:43:26 <sandro> bhyland: Yeah please Update the Date any time you change it.

Bernadette Hyland: Yeah please Update the Date any time you change it.

14:43:48 <sandro> sandro: Yes, please change status to ED.

Sandro Hawke: Yes, please change status to ED.

14:44:13 <HadleyBeeman> benediktkaempgen: are you saying you're ready to transition this to wg note today?

Benedikt Kaempgen: are you saying you're ready to transition this to wg note today? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:44:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> there is terrible echo

Joao Almeida: there is terrible echo

14:44:20 <sandro> bhyland: So you're committed to getting this across the finish line?   (without Richard)

Bernadette Hyland: So you're committed to getting this across the finish line? (without Richard)

14:44:27 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

zakim, who is talking?

14:44:37 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: yes

Benedikt Kaempgen: yes

14:44:37 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (39%), BenediktKaempgen (35%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (39%), BenediktKaempgen (35%)

14:44:46 <sandro> bhyland: When will it be done?

Bernadette Hyland: When will it be done?

14:45:17 <bhyland> Ah, the art of PubRules is not a trifle …

Bernadette Hyland: Ah, the art of PubRules is not a trifle …

14:45:24 <HadleyBeeman> :)

Hadley Beeman: :)

14:45:46 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: PubRules may take some days.      If we agree to publish as WG note, then I think I can have it done by 16 aug.

Benedikt Kaempgen: PubRules may take some days. If we agree to publish as WG note, then I think I can have it done by 16 aug.

14:46:16 <sandro> +1 BenediktKaempgen getting married!

+1 BenediktKaempgen getting married!

14:46:21 <MariosMeimaris> Congrats!

Marios Meimaris: Congrats!

14:46:23 <olyerickson> Congrats BenediktKaempgen !

John Erickson: Congrats BenediktKaempgen !

14:46:58 <olyerickson> We don't need to vote on BenediktKaempgen's wedding

John Erickson: We don't need to vote on BenediktKaempgen's wedding

14:47:44 <DaveReynolds> Yes, fine by me

Dave Reynolds: Yes, fine by me

14:47:47 <bhyland> ta

Bernadette Hyland: ta

14:48:15 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.

PROPOSED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.

14:48:18 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:48:22 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:48:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:48:25 <sandro> +1

+1

14:48:27 <MariosMeimaris> +1

Marios Meimaris: +1

14:48:32 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:48:53 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:50:16 <bhyland> I like the streamlining of effort that is occuring on this call :-)

Bernadette Hyland: I like the streamlining of effort that is occuring on this call :-)

14:50:21 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

<sandro> RESOLVED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.

RESOLVED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.

14:50:24 <HadleyBeeman> me too!

Hadley Beeman: me too!

14:50:44 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: I'll take a look, then hand it off the sandro, so see if he can finish it quickly, otherwise it might wait some weeks.

Benedikt Kaempgen: I'll take a look, then hand it off the sandro, so see if he can finish it quickly, otherwise it might wait some weeks.

14:51:14 <bhyland> Topic: Tracker review

7. Tracker review

14:51:15 <sandro> topic: issue-68

8. ISSUE-68

14:51:19 <sandro> issue-68?

ISSUE-68?

14:51:19 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- QB validation rules lack miss a potentially common case -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-68 -- QB validation rules lack miss a potentially common case -- raised

14:51:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68

14:51:20 <bhyland> We have two raised issues, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68

Bernadette Hyland: We have two raised issues, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68

14:51:33 <sandro> issue-6

ISSUE-6

14:51:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

14:51:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

14:51:50 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:52:43 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I just raised this today.    We got an implementation report on cube, and it failed on the validator because it was more picky then the integrity rules in spec.

Dave Reynolds: I just raised this today. We got an implementation report on cube, and it failed on the validator because it was more picky then the integrity rules in spec.

14:53:12 <sandro> DaveReynolds: This looks like it's going to be a common and important case.    If not for CR, it'd be easy to fix.

Dave Reynolds: This looks like it's going to be a common and important case. If not for CR, it'd be easy to fix.

14:53:15 <bhyland> Would read better as: "ISSUE-68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")

Bernadette Hyland: Would read better as: "ISSUE-68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")

14:53:43 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Every dataset should have a structure, but it's not constrained like that.   Because the RDFS closure rules aren't complete.

Dave Reynolds: Every dataset should have a structure, but it's not constrained like that. Because the RDFS closure rules aren't complete.

14:54:17 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Technically this would be an easy extension to the normal validation rule

Dave Reynolds: Technically this would be an easy extension to the normal validation rule

14:54:51 <sandro> sandro: Did the submitted data makes sense anyway?

Sandro Hawke: Did the submitted data makes sense anyway?

14:55:07 <sandro> DaveReynolds: No, there was an error.

Dave Reynolds: No, there was an error.

14:55:41 <sandro> DaveReynolds: based the validation rules in the spec, failed the validation by my validator

Dave Reynolds: based the validation rules in the spec, failed the validation by my validator

14:56:06 <bhyland> … it passed the Validation process (but it should not have) but wasn't legitimate per the spec document.

Bernadette Hyland: … it passed the Validation process (but it should not have) but wasn't legitimate per the spec document.

14:56:22 <bhyland> Sandro: We wouldn't be breaking anyone's working system if the spec change ...

Sandro Hawke: We wouldn't be breaking anyone's working system if the spec change ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:57:10 <sandro> DaveReynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not.    And anyone with such a validator would want this change.

Dave Reynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change.

14:57:37 <bhyland> … Need to tighten up the spec.

Bernadette Hyland: … Need to tighten up the spec.

14:57:39 <sandro> DaveReynolds: CR has revealed that we left an inadvertant hold in the validation rules.

Dave Reynolds: CR has revealed that we left an inadvertant hold in the validation rules.

14:57:55 <bhyland> Sandro: Thinks it is OK as he understands the problem.

Sandro Hawke: Thinks it is OK as he understands the problem. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:57:58 <MariosMeimaris> Furthermore, the validation rules will pass RDF that has no defined qb entities in it at all.

Marios Meimaris: Furthermore, the validation rules will pass RDF that has no defined qb entities in it at all.

14:58:16 <bhyland> … Change the spec as it goes to PR

Bernadette Hyland: … Change the spec as it goes to PR

14:58:57 <bhyland> Sandro: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue.

Sandro Hawke: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:59:00 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Any way to tell people?

Dave Reynolds: Any way to tell people?

14:59:11 <sandro> sandro: Not really.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: Not really. :-)

14:59:48 <Zakim> -fadmaa

Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa

14:59:53 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Reporter has corrected their data, and is releaved at situation.   They'll be fine with this.

Dave Reynolds: Reporter has corrected their data, and is releaved at situation. They'll be fine with this.

15:01:04 <HadleyBeeman> sandro, If we leave the issue open, won't that remind us to sort it at PR transition time?

Hadley Beeman: sandro, If we leave the issue open, won't that remind us to sort it at PR transition time?

15:01:54 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I'll summarize the issue and what we propose to do about it.

Dave Reynolds: I'll summarize the issue and what we propose to do about it.

15:02:12 <bhyland> Moved from raised to "open" with notation:

Bernadette Hyland: Moved from raised to "open" with notation:

15:02:12 <bhyland> Discussed 18-Jul-2-13 at GLD WG call.

Bernadette Hyland: Discussed 18-Jul-2-13 at GLD WG call.

15:02:12 <bhyland> Would read better as: "https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")

Bernadette Hyland: Would read better as: "https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")

15:02:12 <bhyland> DaveReynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change.

Dave Reynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:02:12 <bhyland> Sandro: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue.

Sandro Hawke: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:02:13 <bhyland> DaveReynolds agreed to prepare email & send to public gld list, Sandro to ensure Ralph is OK with proposed approach.

Bernadette Hyland: DaveReynolds agreed to prepare email & send to public gld list, Sandro to ensure Ralph is OK with proposed approach.

15:02:45 <sandro> HadleyBeeman, hopefully we can just close it and DaveReynolds edit the draft now.

HadleyBeeman, hopefully we can just close it and DaveReynolds edit the draft now.

15:02:52 <HadleyBeeman> Okay, great.

Hadley Beeman: Okay, great.

15:03:02 <HadleyBeeman> Next meeting: 1 August!  (I'll send round an email of the changed meeting schedule)

Hadley Beeman: Next meeting: 1 August! (I'll send round an email of the changed meeting schedule)

15:03:18 <sandro> ADJOURN

ADJOURN

15:03:21 <olyerickson> Thanks everyone; have a great week!

John Erickson: Thanks everyone; have a great week!

15:03:23 <HadleyBeeman> Thank you, bhyland, for chairing.  And sandro for scribing

Hadley Beeman: Thank you, bhyland, for chairing. And sandro for scribing

15:03:27 <Zakim> -olyerickson

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15:03:27 <HadleyBeeman> And sorry about my audio!

Hadley Beeman: And sorry about my audio!

15:03:28 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

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15:03:28 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks!

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks!

15:03:31 <DaveReynolds> bye all

Dave Reynolds: bye all

15:03:31 <MariosMeimaris> Bye everyone

Marios Meimaris: Bye everyone

15:03:34 <Zakim> -bhyland

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15:03:35 <Zakim> -Sandro

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15:03:35 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen

15:03:37 <Zakim> -TallTed

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15:03:38 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

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15:03:38 <bhyland> We'll email everyone with outcome of GLD WG extension request.

Bernadette Hyland: We'll email everyone with outcome of GLD WG extension request.

15:03:39 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris

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15:03:40 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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15:03:41 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

15:03:41 <Zakim> Attendees were +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, +1.440.389.aabb, HadleyBeeman, Sandro, +1.540.898.aacc, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TallTed,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, +1.440.389.aabb, HadleyBeeman, Sandro, +1.540.898.aacc, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TallTed,

15:03:41 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, MariosMeimaris

Zakim IRC Bot: ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, MariosMeimaris

15:03:43 <bhyland> Speak with you all in two weeks.

Bernadette Hyland: Speak with you all in two weeks.

15:03:46 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks for the congratulations!

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks for the congratulations!

15:03:52 <bhyland> Thanks for scribing Sandro.

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks for scribing Sandro.

15:03:52 <HadleyBeeman> :)

Hadley Beeman: :)

15:03:57 <gatemezi> thanks all !!

Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all !!

15:04:08 <sandro> RRSAgent, bye

RRSAgent, bye

15:04:08 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-actions.rdf :

15:04:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [1]

ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [1]

15:04:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-28

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-28

15:04:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [2]

ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [2]

15:04:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-41

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-41



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