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Minutes of 20 January 2014

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<sandro> Guest: Hadley Beeman
12:57:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-irc

12:58:05 <PhilA2> PhilA2 has changed the topic to: DWBP Chairs meeting 2014-01-20

Phil Archer: PhilA2 has changed the topic to: DWBP Chairs meeting 2014-01-20

13:01:40 <PhilA> hi HadleyBeeman, thanks for being there. Just waiting for the others then I'll ask zakim for the slot

Phil Archer: hi HadleyBeeman, thanks for being there. Just waiting for the others then I'll ask zakim for the slot

13:01:55 <HadleyBeeman> Ah, okay.  I'll wait to dial in then. :)

Hadley Beeman: Ah, okay. I'll wait to dial in then. :)

13:02:09 <PhilA> Dunno wht the conf conde will be yet

Phil Archer: Dunno wht the conf code will be yet

13:02:15 <PhilA> s/conde/code/
13:02:29 <PhilA> So you're actually on holiday?

Phil Archer: So you're actually on holiday?

13:02:41 <PhilA> Seaside, sunshine and all that?

Phil Archer: Seaside, sunshine and all that?

13:02:56 <HadleyBeeman> Yep.  My first proper holiday in a year.

Hadley Beeman: Yep. My first proper holiday in a year.

13:03:11 <HadleyBeeman> (Well, it was going to be.  But I had a few days off at Christmas.  :) )

Hadley Beeman: (Well, it was going to be. But I had a few days off at Christmas. :) )

13:03:20 <PhilA> Then I feel even worse for interrupting with this

Phil Archer: Then I feel even worse for interrupting with this

13:03:26 <HadleyBeeman> Also you sent me a tweet yesterday afternoon that I only just got!  I'm sorry to have kept you hanging.  No notification on my phone for that. :(

Hadley Beeman: Also you sent me a tweet yesterday afternoon that I only just got! I'm sorry to have kept you hanging. No notification on my phone for that. :(

13:03:39 <HadleyBeeman> Don't feel bad.  This is something I want to do!

Hadley Beeman: Don't feel bad. This is something I want to do!

13:03:45 <PhilA> :-)

Phil Archer: :-)

13:03:54 <PhilA> Now of Brazil would join us...

Phil Archer: Now of Brazil would join us...

13:04:08 <PhilA> and the man who I believe is in Copenhagen right now...

Phil Archer: and the man who I believe is in Copenhagen right now...

13:04:24 <PhilA> I'll see him this week in Riga of all places

Phil Archer: I'll see him this week in Riga of all places

13:04:34 <HadleyBeeman> How on earth do you keep track?  You must have a map in your head with little pins that have chairs' names on them.

Hadley Beeman: How on earth do you keep track? You must have a map in your head with little pins that have chairs' names on them.

13:04:47 <PhilA> I have an actual map on the wall with actual pins in it :-)

Phil Archer: I have an actual map on the wall with actual pins in it :-)

13:04:56 <Caroline_> Hello! How are you? Are we making the call?

Caroline Burle: Hello! How are you? Are we making the call?

13:04:57 <HadleyBeeman> There we go then.  Clever!

Hadley Beeman: There we go then. Clever!

13:05:03 <PhilA> Hi Caroline_

Phil Archer: Hi Caroline_

13:05:04 <HadleyBeeman> Hello Caroline_!

Hadley Beeman: Hello Caroline_!

13:05:17 <PhilA> Caroline_:  do I need one line or two for you and Yaso?

Caroline Burle: do I need one line or two for you and Yaso? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:05:47 <Caroline_> one line is fine. Yaso is finishing abother meeting and will get here in 10min. Would that be okay?

Caroline Burle: one line is fine. Yaso is finishing abother meeting and will get here in 10min. Would that be okay?

13:05:55 <PhilA> Of course. Hang on...

Phil Archer: Of course. Hang on...

13:05:59 <PhilA> zakim, room for 4?

Phil Archer: zakim, room for 4?

13:06:00 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; conference Team_(dwbp)13:05Z scheduled with code 3927 (DWBP) for 60 minutes until 1405Z

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA; conference Team_(dwbp)13:05Z scheduled with code 3927 (DWBP) for 60 minutes until 1405Z

13:06:07 <PhilA> There's our number...

Phil Archer: There's our number...

13:06:22 <Caroline_> tks

Caroline Burle: tks

13:06:23 <HadleyBeeman> dialing in

Hadley Beeman: dialing in

13:06:35 <Zakim> Team_(dwbp)13:05Z has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(dwbp)13:05Z has now started

13:06:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:06:43 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:06:43 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

13:07:06 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:08:18 <PhilA> Are you dialling in Caroline_

Phil Archer: Are you dialling in Caroline_

13:08:34 <Caroline_> in a minute

Caroline Burle: in a minute

13:10:28 <Zakim> +Caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline

13:10:31 <Caroline_> I am here

Caroline Burle: I am here

13:13:09 <Zakim> + +1.516.353.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.516.353.aaaa

13:14:12 <PhilA> zakim, aaaa is Steve

Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is Steve

13:14:12 <Zakim> +Steve; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve; got it

13:14:31 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, yaso is with caroline_

Hadley Beeman: zakim, yaso is with caroline_

13:14:31 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_'

13:15:12 <PhilA> zakim, Caroline_ has Yaso

Phil Archer: zakim, Caroline_ has Yaso

13:15:12 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'

13:15:26 <PhilA> zakim, Caroline has Yaso

Phil Archer: zakim, Caroline has Yaso

13:15:26 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it

13:16:38 <PhilA> Yaso: Suggesting Bernadette who is a local Uni professor (and member of the WG) to be chair of the vocabularies Task forces

Yaso Córdova: Suggesting Bernadette who is a local Uni professor (and member of the WG) to be chair of the vocabularies Task forces [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:16:55 <PhilA> ... wants to get agenda sorted

Phil Archer: ... wants to get agenda sorted

13:17:07 <PhilA> Steve: Isn't it just getting to know you?

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Unknown Steve: Isn't it just getting to know you? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:17:19 <PhilA> Caroline_: Maybe we should also teach people how to use IRC etc.

Caroline Burle: Maybe we should also teach people how to use IRC etc. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:17:31 <PhilA> ... most of the people I know on the call won't know how to use IRC

Phil Archer: ... most of the people I know on the call won't know how to use IRC

13:17:47 <PhilA> ... they need to know how a WG works. maybe Hadley can take us through that?

Phil Archer: ... they need to know how a WG works. maybe Hadley can take us through that?

13:18:21 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That would be helpful. I'm happy to do my part for that

Hadley Beeman: That would be helpful. I'm happy to do my part for that [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:18:38 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: What is the time of our first call?

Hadley Beeman: What is the time of our first call? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:18:52 <PhilA> yaso: 09:00 ET, 12:00 SP, 14:00 UK

Yaso Córdova: 09:00 ET, 12:00 SP, 14:00 UK [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:18:58 <PhilA> ... Friday

Phil Archer: ... Friday

13:19:29 <PhilA> See this link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+Data+on+the+Web+Best+Practices+Inaugural+Teleconference&iso=20140124T14&p1=1346&ah=2

Phil Archer: See this link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+Data+on+the+Web+Best+Practices+Inaugural+Teleconference&iso=20140124T14&p1=1346&ah=2

13:19:50 <PhilA> Caroline_: Important thing is to send the mail

Caroline Burle: Important thing is to send the mail [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:19:54 <Caroline_> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings

Caroline Burle: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings

13:20:09 <PhilA> yaso: Yes, and we can introduce ourselves by mail - better as it is documented.

Yaso Córdova: Yes, and we can introduce ourselves by mail - better as it is documented. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:20:21 <PhilA> q+ to make a suggestion

Phil Archer: q+ to make a suggestion

13:20:58 <PhilA> PhilA: I booked 2 hours on Zakim

Phil Archer: I booked 2 hours on Zakim [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:21:51 <PhilA> Steve: We need to do a sales job. Why should they give us their time on Friday?

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Unknown Steve: We need to do a sales job. Why should they give us their time on Friday? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:22:21 <PhilA> Caroline_: I think having the agenda will help

Caroline Burle: I think having the agenda will help [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:22:57 <PhilA> Steve: This is the first time we're all talking so being social is important. Who is on the phoine, what are they interested in? What problems have they seen, what are they bringing to the table

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Unknown Steve: This is the first time we're all talking so being social is important. Who is on the phoine, what are they interested in? What problems have they seen, what are they bringing to the table [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:23:32 <PhilA> ... an agenda is good but we don't need to be too focussed on content at this point. We should facilitate the conversation.

Phil Archer: ... an agenda is good but we don't need to be too focussed on content at this point. We should facilitate the conversation.

13:24:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I agree with that but we're going to end up with 65% of people that we'll never hear from again. I'm reluctant not to have a call with no structure beyond that

Hadley Beeman: I agree with that but we're going to end up with 65% of people that we'll never hear from again. I'm reluctant not to have a call with no structure beyond that [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:24:25 <PhilA> Caroline_: +1 to both

Caroline Burle: +1 to both [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:25:14 <PhilA> Yaso: We can't just spend the time training people

Yaso Córdova: We can't just spend the time training people [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:25:31 <PhilA> Steve: That's an item on the agenda, yes, and we can show people where to go to see more

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Unknown Steve: That's an item on the agenda, yes, and we can show people where to go to see more [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:26:47 <HadleyBeeman> Proposed agenda:

Hadley Beeman: Proposed agenda:

13:26:58 <HadleyBeeman> What the group is

Hadley Beeman: What the group is

13:26:58 <HadleyBeeman> What we need to accomplish

Hadley Beeman: What we need to accomplish

13:26:58 <HadleyBeeman> What participating means (time etc)

Hadley Beeman: What participating means (time etc)

13:26:58 <HadleyBeeman> Who is in it

Hadley Beeman: Who is in it

13:26:58 <HadleyBeeman> How they can participate (tools, IRC, meetings, etc.)

Hadley Beeman: How they can participate (tools, IRC, meetings, etc.)

13:28:44 <PhilA> q-

Phil Archer: q-

13:29:21 <PhilA> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp-scope/ Mobile Web BP scope doc

Phil Archer: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp-scope/ Mobile Web BP scope doc

13:30:18 <PhilA> yaso: Makes a plea for native speakers to speak slowly...

Yaso Córdova: Makes a plea for native speakers to speak slowly... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:30:33 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Noted. Good poinbt - that's also why the mailing list is important

Hadley Beeman: Noted. Good poinbt - that's also why the mailing list is important [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:30:45 <PhilA> ... do please tell me if I'm causing trouble

Phil Archer: ... do please tell me if I'm causing trouble

13:32:11 <PhilA> Steve: That sounds right but maybe we could add what real world probems are we solving, what will participants get out of participating

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Unknown Steve: That sounds right but maybe we could add what real world probems are we solving, what will participants get out of participating [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:32:42 <PhilA> ... we need to accomplish what the charter says. But that's back to front. When this is done - who will benefit, how will people use this and what will it do. Why do we need it now?

Phil Archer: ... we need to accomplish what the charter says. But that's back to front. When this is done - who will benefit, how will people use this and what will it do. Why do we need it now?

13:32:54 <PhilA> ... give impressions that we're doing something important

Phil Archer: ... give impressions that we're doing something important

13:33:00 <PhilA> ... get that upfront

Phil Archer: ... get that upfront

13:33:08 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: +1

Hadley Beeman: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:33:35 <PhilA> Caroline_: Yaso just wrote what Hadley and Steve said

Caroline Burle: Yaso just wrote what Hadley and Steve said [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:33:47 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings#Meeting_Agendas_and_Minutes

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings#Meeting_Agendas_and_Minutes

13:35:24 <PhilA> Steve: Do we have any idea of the dependencies between the three deliverable? etc.

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Unknown Steve: Do we have any idea of the dependencies between the three deliverable? etc. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:37:02 <Zakim> -Steve

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve

13:38:19 <Zakim> +Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve

13:38:40 <PhilA> Discussion of the time of the regular call

Phil Archer: Discussion of the time of the regular call

13:39:02 <PhilA> Participants listed at http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=68239&public=1

Phil Archer: Participants listed at http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=68239&public=1

13:42:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We still have this question of how we divide the work between the three of us

Hadley Beeman: We still have this question of how we divide the work between the three of us [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:43:12 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The things I think chairs do... we're going to be moniroting and seind e-mails (community management stuff)

Hadley Beeman: The things I think chairs do... we're going to be moniroting and seind e-mails (community management stuff) [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:43:15 <PhilA> ... chairing meetings

Phil Archer: ... chairing meetings

13:43:24 <PhilA> ... guiding teh conversations

Phil Archer: ... guiding teh conversations

13:43:31 <PhilA> ... preparing and disseminating the agenda

Phil Archer: ... preparing and disseminating the agenda

13:43:41 <PhilA> ... there are some W3C bits (transtions etc.)

Phil Archer: ... there are some W3C bits (transtions etc.)

13:44:17 <PhilA> ... of those responsibilities, we can split by thing, or we can alternate by week (who's on call that week), or we can divide by work item

Phil Archer: ... of those responsibilities, we can split by thing, or we can alternate by week (who's on call that week), or we can divide by work item

13:44:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I'm indifferent as long as we continue to communicate. Perhaps by a weekly call of our own each week

Hadley Beeman: I'm indifferent as long as we continue to communicate. Perhaps by a weekly call of our own each week [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:03 <PhilA> yaso: I propose we take care of this discussion after the first call

Yaso Córdova: I propose we take care of this discussion after the first call [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:13 <PhilA> ... I think we have to see how we work together in the first call

Phil Archer: ... I think we have to see how we work together in the first call

13:45:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: +1

Hadley Beeman: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:22 <PhilA> Steve: +1

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Unknown Steve: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:31 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I want to make sure we make good decisions

Hadley Beeman: I want to make sure we make good decisions [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:45 <PhilA> ... so that leaves us deciding what we need to do this week

Phil Archer: ... so that leaves us deciding what we need to do this week

13:46:02 <PhilA> Steve: Timing of our first meeting?

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Unknown Steve: Timing of our first meeting? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:47:27 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA:  First face-to-face as soon as possible (especially for the benefit of the chairs)

Phil Archer: First face-to-face as soon as possible (especially for the benefit of the chairs) [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

13:47:46 <HadleyBeeman> … Second would be useful to hold at TPAC in end of October in Santa Clara, California

Hadley Beeman: … Second would be useful to hold at TPAC in end of October in Santa Clara, California

13:48:36 <HadleyBeeman> … We must give 8 weeks' notice to our members for a face-to-face

Hadley Beeman: … We must give 8 weeks' notice to our members for a face-to-face

13:48:57 <HadleyBeeman> … So now, the earliest is the week beginning the 24th of March.

Hadley Beeman: … So now, the earliest is the week beginning the 24th of March.

13:50:12 <HadleyBeeman> …  26-28 March is the Research Data Alliance meeting in Dublin

Hadley Beeman: … 26-28 March is the Research Data Alliance meeting in Dublin

13:51:30 <PhilA> Discussion of possible venues. Mozilla, ODI, IBM can potentially help with a venue

Phil Archer: Discussion of possible venues. Mozilla, ODI, IBM can potentially help with a venue

13:52:21 <PhilA> Steve: The best venue is the best venue. I don't mind. Our Southbank room is pretty nice, overlooking the Thames.

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Unknown Steve: The best venue is the best venue. I don't mind. Our Southbank room is pretty nice, overlooking the Thames. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:52:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: having a couple of options depending on numbers might be a good thing

Hadley Beeman: having a couple of options depending on numbers might be a good thing [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:57:50 <PhilA> zakim, mute Steve

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Phil Archer: zakim, mute Steve

13:57:50 <Zakim> Steve should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Steve should now be muted

13:58:04 <PhilA> zakim, unmute Steve

Phil Archer: zakim, unmute Steve

13:58:04 <Zakim> Steve should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Steve should no longer be muted

13:58:46 <PhilA> Yaso: If we define that the meeting will be in London on Mon/Tue 24-25 March, then we can decide who is going etc. One of us definitely will

Yaso Córdova: If we define that the meeting will be in London on Mon/Tue 24-25 March, then we can decide who is going etc. One of us definitely will [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:59:07 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: SO in terms of order, we should set the date first

Hadley Beeman: SO in terms of order, we should set the date first [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:59:22 <PhilA> yaso: At least one of us will go for sure. It's whetehr we both go

Yaso Córdova: At least one of us will go for sure. It's whetehr we both go [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:59:40 <PhilA> ... We also talked about meeting in 2015 in Uraguy

Phil Archer: ... We also talked about meeting in 2015 in Uraguy

13:59:59 <PhilA> ... Their government is a member of the WG - they're keen to have a f2f there maybe next year

Phil Archer: ... Their government is a member of the WG - they're keen to have a f2f there maybe next year

14:00:25 <PhilA> PhilA: Starts thinking of going to Montivideo and is happy

Phil Archer: Starts thinking of going to Montivideo and is happy [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:00:40 <yaso> :-)

Yaso Córdova: :-)

14:03:09 <HadleyBeeman> Steve: I have a conflict with the 25th

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Unknown Steve: I have a conflict with the 25th [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:03:40 <HadleyBeeman> All agreed:  31st March and 1 April

Hadley Beeman: All agreed: 31st March and 1 April

14:03:55 <HadleyBeeman> Steve:  I'll ask the team in London about using SouthBank as a venue

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Unknown Steve: I'll ask the team in London about using SouthBank as a venue [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:05:12 <HadleyBeeman> yaso:  you might find this page layout helpful to copy/adapt http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3

Yaso Córdova: you might find this page layout helpful to copy/adapt http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3 [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:05:26 <yaso> tks Hadley :-)

Yaso Córdova: tks Hadley :-)

14:05:33 <HadleyBeeman> no problem :)

Hadley Beeman: no problem :)

14:07:17 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130307

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130307

14:09:26 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So what happens between now and Friday

Hadley Beeman: So what happens between now and Friday [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:09:47 <PhilA> yaso: I think you said you were sending out the agenda - thanks

Yaso Córdova: I think you said you were sending out the agenda - thanks [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:10:05 <PhilA> ... then we need to decide who is chairing the meeting and how we're going to drum up more support

Phil Archer: ... then we need to decide who is chairing the meeting and how we're going to drum up more support

14:10:11 <PhilA> Steve: No preference

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Unknown Steve: No preference [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:10:58 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We need to talk about scribing. People need to know that their time will come

Hadley Beeman: We need to talk about scribing. People need to know that their time will come [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:13:57 <PhilA> yaso: Anything else to decide?

Yaso Córdova: Anything else to decide? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:14:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Just the chair for Friday, which I'm happy to do

Hadley Beeman: Just the chair for Friday, which I'm happy to do [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:14:09 <PhilA> Caroline_:  +1

Caroline Burle: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:14:12 <PhilA> Steve: +1

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Unknown Steve: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:14:15 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:14:28 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I think it would be good if we can find some more people to include in the group

Hadley Beeman: I think it would be good if we can find some more people to include in the group [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:14:40 <PhilA> ... so we start with as many as possible before it shrinks

Phil Archer: ... so we start with as many as possible before it shrinks

14:14:51 <PhilA> rrsagent, make logs public

Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public

14:15:29 <Zakim> -Steve

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve

14:17:48 <PhilA> RRSAgent: draft minutes
14:17:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA

14:17:51 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:24:01 <Zakim> -Caroline

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline

14:24:02 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

14:24:02 <Zakim> Team_(dwbp)13:05Z has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(dwbp)13:05Z has ended

14:24:02 <Zakim> Attendees were PhilA, HadleyBeeman, +1.516.353.aaaa, Steve, Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were PhilA, HadleyBeeman, +1.516.353.aaaa, Steve, Yaso

14:24:08 <PhilA> RRSAgent: draft minutes
14:24:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-dwbp-minutes.html PhilA

14:53:26 <PhilA> zakim, bye

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Phil Archer: zakim, bye

14:53:31 <PhilA> rrsagent, bye

Phil Archer: rrsagent, bye

14:53:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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