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<trackbot> Date: 18 July 2013
<scribe> scribenick: glenn_
ACTION-41?
<trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to ACTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
close ACTION-41
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-41 ACTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03].
<tmichel> I am trying to call ...
ACTION-55?
<trackbot> ACTION-55 -- Glenn Adams to work with plh to create accessible schema -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/55
close ACTION-55
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-55 Work with plh to create accessible schema.
ACTION-69?
<trackbot> ACTION-69 -- Glenn Adams to investigate correctness of 9.3.3 (7) w.r.t. XSL-FO semantics, and report back to WG -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/69
close ACTION-69
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-69 Investigate correctness of 9.3.3 (7) w.r.t. XSL-FO semantics, and report back to WG.
ACTION-72?
<trackbot> ACTION-72 -- Glenn Adams to implement proposed changes from ACTION-68 into 9.3.2 of 1.0 2nd Ed. -- due 2012-06-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/72
close ACTION-72
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-72 Implement proposed changes from ACTION-68 into 9.3.2 of 1.0 2nd Ed..
ACTION-73?
<trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Sean Hayes to incorporate result of ACTION-71 into CP http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 -- due 2012-07-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/73
close ACTION-73
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-73 Incorporate result of ACTION-71 into CP http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002.
ACTION-75?
<trackbot> ACTION-75 -- Glenn Adams to determine best approach to refer to external xml.xsd per action 60; may need to deal with xml:id separately -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/75
<mike> xml.xsd authoriotative link is: www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd
Action glenn to update local copy of xml.xsd to use newer copy based on above link.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-177 - Update local copy of xml.xsd to use newer copy based on above link. [on Glenn Adams - due 2013-07-25].
close ACTION-75
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-75 Determine best approach to refer to external xml.xsd per action 60; may need to deal with xml:id separately.
ACTION-76?
<trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Glenn Adams to incorporate results from action 56 into 1.1 -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/76
close ACTION-76
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-76 Incorporate results from action 56 into 1.1.
ACTION-77?
<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Glenn Adams to incorporate results from endsync resolution per action 52 into 1.0 2ed -- due 2012-07-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/77
close ACTION-77
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-77 Incorporate results from endsync resolution per action 52 into 1.0 2ed.
ACTION-83?
<trackbot> ACTION-83 -- Glenn Adams to draft proposal or spec text for ISSUE-174 (canonical concrete syntax for TTML) -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/83
Action sean to open new issue(s) describing problems with concrete encoding.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-178 - Open new issue(s) describing problems with concrete encoding. [on Sean Hayes - due 2013-07-25].
close ACTION-83
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-83 Draft proposal or spec text for ISSUE-174 (canonical concrete syntax for TTML).
ACTION-92?
<trackbot> ACTION-92 -- Glenn Adams to integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. -- due 2012-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/92
close ACTION-92
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-92 Integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1..
ACTION-109?
<trackbot> ACTION-109 -- Mike Dolan to provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE. -- due 2012-10-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/109
close ACTION-109
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-109 Provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE..
ACTION-130?
<trackbot> ACTION-130 -- Sean Hayes to provide example with screen shot to the list for Issue-189 for TTML 1.0 SE portion. -- due 2012-11-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/130
close ACTION-130
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-130 Provide example with screen shot to the list for Issue-189 for TTML 1.0 SE portion..
ACTION-132?
<trackbot> ACTION-132 -- Glenn Adams to create an Annex on using of XML wire encoding in TTML 1.0 SE. -- due 2012-12-06 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/132
close ACTION-132
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-132 Create an Annex on using of XML wire encoding in TTML 1.0 SE..
ACTION-135?
<trackbot> ACTION-135 -- Sean Hayes to create an issue on set element re: transformation between TTML file and synchronic documents. Sean to investigate. -- due 2013-01-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/135
close ACTION-135
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-135 Create an issue on set element re: transformation between TTML file and synchronic documents. Sean to investigate..
ACTION-136?
<trackbot> ACTION-136 -- Glenn Adams to integrate changes from Action-133 into the TTML 1.0 Second Edition -- due 2013-01-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/136
close ACTION-136
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-136 Integrate changes from Action-133 into the TTML 1.0 Second Edition.
plh: can you initiate the IANA
Media Type registration process for TTML10SE (ACTION-88)?
... it would be useful to do this as part of the PER review
period, in case they wish to propose changes in Appendix C
action Sean to follow up with plh on ACTION-88
<trackbot> Created ACTION-179 - Follow up with plh on ACTION-88 [on Sean Hayes - due 2013-07-25].
ACTION-140?
<trackbot> ACTION-140 -- Glenn Adams to implement proposal Method#1 in TTML 1.0 SE and this resolves any blocking change in SDP-US. -- due 2013-02-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/140
close ACTION-140
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-140 Implement proposal Method#1 in TTML 1.0 SE and this resolves any blocking change in SDP-US..
ACTION-142?
<trackbot> ACTION-142 -- Glenn Adams to remove the text from the specification and PLH to provide location of the schemas. -- due 2013-02-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/142
close ACTION-142
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-142 Remove the text from the specification and PLH to provide location of the schemas..
ACTION-146?
<trackbot> ACTION-146 -- Glenn Adams to add prohibited value for feature definitions -- due 2013-08-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/146
close ACTION-146
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-146 add prohibited value for feature definitions.
ACTION-148?
<trackbot> ACTION-148 -- Glenn Adams to clarify cell units as Sean specified in TTWG Meeting Feb 21. -- due 2013-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/148
close ACTION-148
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-148 Clarify cell units as Sean specified in TTWG Meeting Feb 21..
ACTION-152?
<trackbot> ACTION-152 -- Glenn Adams to add set element semantics to 9.3.3 -- due 2013-04-18 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/152
close ACTION-133
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-133 Create updated template and summary of media type record for Glenn..
close ACTION-152
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-152 Add set element semantics to 9.3.3.
ACTION-155?
<trackbot> ACTION-155 -- Glenn Adams to add note under textOutline indicating that length is interpreted only along bpd -- due 2013-05-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/155
close ACTION-155
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-155 Add note under textOutline indicating that length is interpreted only along bpd.
ACTION-157?
<trackbot> ACTION-157 -- Glenn Adams to restore dedication sentence in acknowledgments section -- due 2013-05-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/157
close ACTION-157
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-157 Restore dedication sentence in acknowledgments section.
ACTION-160?
<trackbot> ACTION-160 -- Glenn Adams to check 10REC errata to make sure addressed -- due 2013-05-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/160
<plh> glenn, I did initiate the media type registration last week
close ACTION-160
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-160 Check 10REC errata to make sure addressed.
<plh> I even gave the link to the status page
plh: ok, thanks
<plh> welcome
ACTION-161?
<trackbot> ACTION-161 -- Glenn Adams to update change log document for SE changes -- due 2013-05-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/161
Action glenn to ensure that 10REC errata page is cleared after 10SE is published as REC.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-180 - Ensure that 10REC errata page is cleared after 10SE is published as REC. [on Glenn Adams - due 2013-07-25].
close ACTION-161
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-161 Update change log document for SE changes.
ACTION-162?
<trackbot> ACTION-162 -- Glenn Adams to fix XML Doc problem with superfluous anchor elements -- due 2013-05-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/162
close ACTION-162
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-162 Fix XML Doc problem with superfluous anchor elements.
ACTION-170?
<trackbot> ACTION-170 -- Glenn Adams to create issue to remove "(in pixels)" from new definition of computed cell size -- due 2013-07-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/170
glenn: re: ACTION-170, the proposed change was effected in the 10SE ED, so no need to create an issue, action can be closed
close ACTION-170
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-170 Create issue to remove "(in pixels)" from new definition of computed cell size.
ACTION-171?
<trackbot> ACTION-171 -- Glenn Adams to add note to PER in 9.1.2 that regions may appear outside root container region -- due 2013-07-18 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/171
close ACTION-171
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-171 Add note to PER in 9.1.2 that regions may appear outside root container region.
ACTION-175?
<trackbot> ACTION-175 -- Glenn Adams to create new issue to cover third paragraph in original ISSUE-180 text -- due 2013-07-18 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/175
close ACTION-175
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-175 Create new issue to cover third paragraph in original ISSUE-180 text.
glenn: during process of
incorporating CPs into spec, expects to make technical changes
as required
... subject to discussion and review by WG once drafted
http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
mike: asks about 'holes' w anonymous regions
glenn: intends to express CP2 in
terms of using anonymous regions that most cleanly integrate
into the current algorithms defined in 8.4 Style Resolution and
9.3 Region Layout and Presentation
... the goal in my mind for using anonymous regions is to
support CP2 while making the fewest substantive changes to 8.4
and 9.3
RESOLVE: implement CP2 in 1.1 ED mutatis mutandis
http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005
RESOLVE: implement CP5 in 1.1 ED mutatis mutandis
<Sean> Pierre to draft some introductory text
Action pal to draft prologue text treating differences between having two normative rendering models.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Draft prologue text treating differences between having two normative rendering models. [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2013-07-25].
http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal006
RESOLUTION: to create separate spec for TTML APIs
<pal> proposed text for ACTION-181: """In addition to describing the semantics of TTML style presentation in terms of the model in [XSL 1.1], this specification provides a mapping of TTML documents to [HTML 5]. The two representations ([XSL 1.1] and [HTML 5]) of a given document are intended to be visually equivalent unless otherwise noted."""
RESOLUTION: for sean to be the initial editor of this new TTML APIs spec
close ACTION-181
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-181 Draft prologue text treating differences between having two normative rendering models..
RESOLVE: implement CP6 in new TTML APIs spec
<Sean> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015
sean: CP15 aggregates a number of proposed style additions
glenn: notes that margin may not
work on inlines
... suggests border apply to content elements as well
... for line stacking strategy, need to review what semantics
CSS provides in this area
... for region anchor points, not sure want to overload
origin/extent
sean: TTML should support all of t,l,r,b and w/h independently, dealing with over/under constraints as needed
glenn: thinks we should retain
textOutline, mapping to CSS text-shadow, then we also add
textShadow
... notes that <set tts:extent/> on region could also be
used instead of "auto" shrink fit
RESOLVE: implement CP15 in 1.1ED mutatis mutandis
glenn: 2[.0] or 1.1?
pal: 2 may cause some readers to believe there are non-backward compatible changes
mike: .X doesn't have defined semantics, likes whole integers
sean: 1.1 already in place, and
some potential expectations to produce a small increment (more
quickly) and a larger increment (less quickly)
... can defer this decision, at least up to FPWD time
http://www.w3.org/Submission/2013/SUBM-ttml-ww-profiles-20130607/#bib-TTML2
RESOLVE: use TTML2 (not 2.0)
glenn: propose "ttml2"
RESOLVE: request "ttml2" short name
tmichel: agrees that ttml2 short name is good, and can set up link to current 1.0 using a ttml1 short name
Action tmichel to create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed
<trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed [on Thierry Michel - due 2013-07-25].
pal: notes submission at http://www.w3.org/Submission/2013/SUBM-ttml-ww-profiles-20130607/
sean: will add this to next week's agenda
sean: folks should register
pal: would like to focus work on Monday at TPAC since Tuesday overlaps with Web&TV IG
<Sean> action, sean t o work with philippe on tpac schedule
Action sean to work with plh on TPAC schedule.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-183 - Work with plh on TPAC schedule. [on Sean Hayes - due 2013-07-25].
trackbot, end meeting
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