trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<Yang> hi, I am from Huawei, my name is Sun Yang,first to the CC, nice to meet you all, :)
欢迎 yang, we will be starting in about 15 mins, when the chair joins
<Yang> thanks a lot ,how you type "欢迎"?and the sip phone promote to input the number, is the tel number or conference code?
<Yang> ok, I am in....
<Yang> why appear ??p1? I have used english name in Ekiga....
<Yang> It seems no body there
you asked how i typed 欢迎, i said i used an IME on my Mac
<Yang> smart
我可以写汉字
<Yang> how you do that? you must know how to pronouce it
<Yang> 这么厉害,佩服佩服
我也会说汉语
<Yang> which company are you from?
i represent Cox Communications in this WG
<Yang> nice to meet you glenn, expressive, chinese seems not so difficult to learn
<Yang> there is no screen sharing here, right?
我8年的中文研究, correct, no screen sharing
<Yang> why you study chinese? for fun?
long story ;)
<Yang> it seems not so many people here...
<Yang> right, Yang from Huawei
<paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0024.html
ACTION-211?
<trackbot> ACTION-211 -- Sam Ruby to ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 -- due 2012-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211
ACTION-211: Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 [Sam Ruby]
<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 notes added
paulc: done
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0158.html
paulc: this ISSUE-194 was
discussed at F2F, just sent email on this
... asks ted to respond
<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-194
paulc: there are two CPs
listed
... Zero CP, then transcript attribute proposal
believes latter will be withdrawn
ACTION-213?
<trackbot> ACTION-213 -- Sam Ruby to get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement
scribe: a11y is working on new
proposal, coming out of F2F
... believes both 211 and 213 are done
... requests ted to respond
... draws people's attention to ...
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement#Obsoletes_the_following_Change_Proposals:
scribe: above link
... obsoletes older proposal
close ACTION-211
<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 closed
close ACTION-213
<trackbot> ACTION-213 Get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday closed
janina: not fully settled on
current draft, put out CfC on tuesday, objections from one
person, thinks can address, work in process
... will wait for objection to be addressed
paulc: will need to figure out how to carry ISSUE-194 forward
ACTION-218?
<trackbot> ACTION-218 -- Paul Cotton to determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference -- due 2012-05-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218
ACTION-218: Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference[Paul Cotton]
<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference notes added
<paulc> Done. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html
<Yang> the media meeting is for media element relative dicussion?
paulc: done, and sent out
message; 1100AM Eastern Time, starts 12JUNE
... will work with editors to build agenda; paul and mike
working on infra support
... thanks mike for heavy lifting
close ACTION-218
<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference closed
scribe: questions?
... survey is now public
<paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html for references to proposals and outstanding bugs
yang: asked for info on purpose of media sub-group
paulc: refers to link cited above
ACTION-212?
<trackbot> ACTION-212 -- Michael[tm] Smith to draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212
ACTION-212: Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 [Michael[tm] Smith]
<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 notes added
mike: needs to review minutes of
F2F
... doesn't plan to share draft until plh looks at it, but plh
won't return for another week
ACTION-212: due 2012-06-14
<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 notes added
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0160.html
ACTION-216?
<trackbot> ACTION-216 -- Michael Cooper to update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216
ACTION-216: Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's [Michael Cooper]
<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's notes added
paulc: ted, can you review michael cooper's proposal?
ted: will attempt to make time
janina: thought we could get down to one proposal
ted: needs to review to see if there is any area of disagreement
paulc: would like to assign action to ted to review
ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
ACTION edward to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - edward
close ACTION-216
<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's closed
none
none
none
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-203
ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or Counter-Proposal closes Jun 10
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
none
ISSUE-205?
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas - Straw Poll for Objections
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
paulc: closes end of thursday
next week
... june 7
... any comments janina?
janina: nothing to report at this time
<MikeSmith> ACTION: member to hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
none
31c re-open request review
<MikeSmith> ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012May/0094.html
already there...
<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
paulc: 31c still pending
HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204
<MikeSmith> trackbot, reload
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0078.html
janina: not at consensus yet
<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-204
janina: PF has objection, late yesterday
<paulc> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0156.html
janina: re: 2119 normative
language on UAs regarding aria markup
... doesn't know if closer to consensus or not
paulc: see link above for the email in question
ted: exchange was useful, getting closer to agreement, but nothing more specific yet
paulc: chairs and TF coordinator met earlier this week, ball is in chair's court re: objections from F2F
<MikeSmith> trackbot, init
Update on Editor Search
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0086.html
paulc: nothing new, plh is away, continuing to work on it
Bulk of W3C's server infrastructure is at MIT CSAIL and will be impacted by a planned network outage on Sat-Sun June 9-10
<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/2012NetworkOutage
paulc: N.B. outage in servers noted above
paulc: sam will be chairing
if nobody else, i can do so
adjourned
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