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SH: Not a lot submissions.
Shadi: 6 submissions so far
<shadi> scribe: klaus
Simon: Pearson, IBM, Wald, Gonzales, ??, Forbs
... Extending needed
... Review process has to be done.
Shadi: Metrics had 11 submission
<markel> 12 submissions, 11 papers accepted
<Zakim> shadi, you wanted to talk about mobile symposium format
Simon: But 6 papers are fine for a conference
Shadi: This time no presentations. Participants
should read abstracts. PANEL DISCUSSION
... More room for questions, make more out of discussion. Papers as
panelists.
... Important role for scientific committee and symposium chairs to set up
panel
+1
Vivienne supports the idea
Markel: Questions to be prepared in advance and sent to speakers.
<shadi> +1 to markel's idea
Yehya: How many reviewers per paper?
Simon: Multiple can be done this time.
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/mobile/cfp.html#review
<markel> 2 reviewer sounds reasonable
<shadi> "at least three reviewers"
Simon: We need more PR for topic 3 onwards
... Klaus to prepare a list of distribution points
Klaus: yes
<sharper> ACTION: sharper to Create list of distribution points for calls [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/09-rd-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Create list of distribution points for calls [on Simon Harper - due 2012-05-16].
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/
Shadi: Wiki contact list might be useful
Simon: agreed
Shadi: e.g. AAATE, ICCHP, ... and others
<scribe> ACTION: sharper to clean up mobile [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/09-rd-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Clean up mobile [on Simon Harper - due 2012-05-16].
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/note/ED-metrics-20120509.html
Shadi: Only thing missing: appendices with papers
Markel: Decision on how to store the proceedings?
Simon: Appendices to W3C note
<sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/rd/SP-design
Shadi: Not decided - back and forward; discussions to include in main body; minutes to be revisited
Simon: That's for future design. For this topic we are unhappy with appendices - devalue papers ...
Shadi: Papers should not be in main body ... W3C
notes must highlight that this is external work
... Oppinion - best way to go is appendices, but not naming it appendices
... Clear note what they are
Markel: Why not "proceedings" instead of appendices
Shadi: o.k.: Proceedings ... Paper 1, Paper 2, ...
Markel: How to cite?
Simon: yes, not sure; perhaps enough when they
are on the site
... As long as they can be cited correctly - fine
Markel: They have to be stored permanently. Perhaps a list of pointers (as in references), but they are out of context - not related to symposium
Simon: List of papers with citations to make them visible
Shadi: Likes idea - intro should highlight this
in a description of symposium and how we want them to be cited.
... Consent of authors needed for that.
Simon: Preference would be - citation is BibTeX
to know how things are cited.
... Instead of asking authors inviting them. As long as they to not ask for no
need to make them appendices
... Important to outline how to cite them
... Resolution setion at beginning lists papers and points to the page
<scribe> ACTION: Markel to carry this out [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/09-rd-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Carry this out [on Markel Vigo - due 2012-05-16].
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/#proceedings
Shadi: Updated draft expected from editors, for metrics page Markes to send text
<shadi> +1 to both
Markel: Do we want to have bibTeX on page or link
Simon: both please
Markel: DBLB?
Simon: We should aks them to index it
<vivienne> +1
+1
<shadi> +1
Shadi: do we need to do something in formating before contacting DBLP?
Markel: Regarding Google scholar something has to be done as last symposium is not included.
Shadi: Dublin Core inside the code should allow
Google to index it.
... BibTeX page is required. Let Shadi know what is needed in design to get
picked up by scientific indexers
Simon: DBLP should solve this
Markel: Should be the fastest way
Shadi: Volunteer for visual aspect. Out of WAI-Act some more research to be better picked up - also for visual design
Shadi: Symposium chairs to contact scientific committee to assign papers
Simon: emails Alice and Peter to sort it out
Shadi: Likes idea of Markel to have questions ahead of time. Perhaps scientific committee to join RDWG call
Markel: Also audience to put in questions.
Shadi: 3 stages: a) feedback to authors by
scientific committee
... b) Group to define questions to the panel.
... c) Audiences to contribute after paper and panel ist set later in the
process
Markel: We should come up with questions in a meeting after reading papers
Shadi: in 2 or 3 weeks - define what we want as output. Call with scientific committee
Simon: Easy by using OpenConf. We could ad a
field for questions for the panel session.
... Will go on with distribution of papers.