W3C

Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference

08 Feb 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Koji, David, Norbert, Andrew, Mati, Felix, John
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Minutes/Agenda

Action Items

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close ACTION-92

<trackbot> ACTION-92 Contact martin and ask if he'd like to update the misscharglyph page closed

Comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50

close ACTION-93

<trackbot> ACTION-93 Comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50 closed

Info Share

<r12a> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/limerick-workshop/limerick-workshop-report

richard: report on the multilingual workshop (above)
... @translate added to HTML5

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2012/02/06/new-tests-html5-bidi/

richard: new bidi tests from aharon and company
... mainly about <bdi>

IME API

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Feb/0008.html

<r12a> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/Overview.html

<r12a> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/use-cases/Overview.html

richard: the above are proposed in the webapps charter
... could we have a look at the above?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: add IME documents to review radar, write to webapps requesting formal notifications at appropriate review points [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Add IME documents to review radar, write to webapps requesting formal notifications at appropriate review points [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-02-15].

norbert: might want to note that this won't be easy
... many kinds of input systems (e.g. handwriting)

Ruby Discussion

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Rb

richard: a few changes to the wiki
... added sections called "does it support use case"
... and added summary
... see bottom
... need to resolve this by 11th of February or write a change proposal
... don't think we can do that
... still hearing new ideas
... problem we have is that the arbitrary date caused by murata's escalation
... discussed in interaction domain meeting
... mike smith has spoken with leif
... asking him to withdraw it
... if not withdrawn, then html5 proposal has to be considered
... leif will do so if richard posts on list saying we're investigating
... mike suggests turning wiki into note
... and then author WD separate from HTML5, get impl support, and then ask for it to be integrated

<kojiishi> Mike told me that i18n WG's charter allows us to write notes, but not WD?

addison: we can write notes, but not REC; can write REC as part of HTML

<kojiishi> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13113#c0

<kojiishi> Mozilla is blocked by this bug, but is interested in implmenting

richard needs to write to public-html making a statement asking for Leif's withdrawl pending future activity by I18N WG and interested implementers to complete the ruby specification that we need

scribe: and add something like that to the bug

<scribe> ACTION: richard: write to public-html asking for end of escalation pending future work by i18n [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Write to public-html asking for end of escalation pending future work by i18n [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-02-15].

<scribe> ACTION: richard: update ruby bug with summary of current situation and asking for no re-escalation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Update ruby bug with summary of current situation and asking for no re-escalation [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-02-15].

richard: then need to create plan for creating documents

addison: can turn wiki into note

richard: but need an editor to work on draft

koji: volunteers to be co-editor

<kojiishi> is it possible for Richard to be one of editors?

<kojiishi> We can ask fantasai but she has a lot of things on her table

<kojiishi> It's probably good to ask her help, but if we can do most of edits work, I think that works the best

<scribe> chair: do we agree that the way forward is to create a note with requirements and then create a WD/spec separate from HTML for implementation?

<kojiishi> no objections

<David> no objection

<matial> OK

<r12a> no objection

john: no objection

<joconner1> no objections

<andrewc> ok

<fsasaki> no objections

<Norbert> agree

addison: agree

<r12a> agree too

<scribe> chair: so resolved :-)

<David> I agree

richard: have a look at the wiki and send comments in
... haven't finished tidying of new stuff
... but the main ideas are there

AOB?

<joconner1> in response to richard, i commit to reading the wiki pages and getting up to speed on background info regarding ruby

<kojiishi> Thank you so much to Richard and Addison for all the staff!

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: add IME documents to review radar, write to webapps requesting formal notifications at appropriate review points [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: update ruby bug with summary of current situation and asking for no re-escalation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: write to public-html asking for end of escalation pending future work by i18n [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
 
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